Brow Girl, Basketball, and Backstabbing

 Brow Girl, Basketball, and Backstabbing

Real Housewives of Salt Lake City Season 5, Episode 3, "Basketball, Bobble Head, and Brow Girl":

The episode follows the women preparing for a trip, discussing ongoing personal dramas. Whitney and Meredith chat with their husbands while packing, and Bronwyn expresses frustration over a lack of support from Lisa at the ropes course. Angie gossips about her brow girl flirting with Jared Osmond, causing tension.

The group travels to Milwaukee for a Bucks game and splits into two groups: one heading to the casino, and the other visiting a bobblehead museum. Throughout the trip, tensions bubble, particularly between Bronwyn, Lisa, and Heather, as they confront each other about past betrayals and snarky remarks. Angie also reveals details about Jared's flirtations to Britiani, leading to tears and further division among the women.

Amidst the drama, Lisa reflects on whether she's supported Bronwyn enough, and the episode concludes with more unresolved conflict as Bronwyn defends herself and exposes that everyone is talking behind each other’s backs.

Takeaways

• Mary's travel choices raise eyebrows.
• Angie's loyalty dilemma complicates friendships.
• The Milwaukee trip sets the stage for drama.
• Brittany's relationship issues come to light.
• Meredith's comments spark controversy.
• Whitney's business practices are questioned.
• Bronwyn's fashion choices draw criticism.
• Mary's bathroom habits are a topic of discussion.
• The casino and bobblehead museum represent diverging interests.
• The episode showcases the complexities of reality TV friendships.

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Transcript

We Wine Whenever (00:00.887)
Hi, welcome to We More Whenever. I'm Wendy.

Kelli (00:03.359)
I'm Kelly.

We Wine Whenever (00:04.25)
and I'm Lori.

We Wine Whenever (00:06.073)
We are talking about Real Housewives of Salt Lake Seas City, season five, episode number three, and it is titled, Basketball, Bobbleheads and Brow Girl. And I think that it is appropriate title.

Kelli (00:22.006)
Spot on.

We Wine Whenever (00:22.128)
Yes.

We Wine Whenever (00:24.204)
So we start with Whitney packing and talking to Justin, Meredith talking to Seth, packing, and Bronwyn's talking to Todd while they're packing. You know, talking about all the drama that's gonna come up when they're going on this trip to Milwaukee. And then Mary calls up and says that she's going, but she's gonna go on her own flight. I, wait, is she going commercial? You're giving up a private jet? Or does she have the money? I mean, she probably has the money to go private, but.

Kelli (00:53.3)
Mary either has her own private jet or she's just gonna fly first class, but you know, by herself and she don't have to talk to nobody. I can't imagine that flight's very long though.

We Wine Whenever (01:03.087)
No.

We Wine Whenever (01:03.534)
I don't know, how far is Milwaukee?

Kelli (01:04.374)
Think about where Utah is and think about, right?

We Wine Whenever (01:07.991)
I don't know, I really don't know. All right. So.

We Wine Whenever (01:08.048)
Yeah, I don't think it's long at all. I don't think it's long after. And I just want to know like what kind of closet bullshit is Whitney talking about acting like it's all good after the ropes course. When Whitney was packing her stuff in her closet, she was like, acting like it was all, I'm so glad that Heather did that where everything's so, yeah, okay.

Kelli (01:13.244)
She's probably going first class.

Kelli (01:24.414)
I

Kelli (01:30.602)
I'm glad Heather got us all together.

We Wine Whenever (01:37.676)
So then we see Angie talking to her husband. I couldn't remember his name. you remember? What's Angie's husband's? Yeah, maybe that's it. I just wrote her husband. I couldn't remember his name. And he asked like how she feels about like what's going on with Lisa. And she's like, listen, I wasn't even able to finish the conversation because she got up and left. And then she's telling him about her. It is so rude. She's telling him about her brow girl who's getting texts and flirting with Jared Osmond.

Kelli (01:42.656)
Sean?

We Wine Whenever (01:54.62)
So rude.

Kelli (02:03.948)
She spilled right there.

We Wine Whenever (02:06.078)
It really is, and she's not sure if she should tell Brittany, but she doesn't want Brittany to get hurt. Listen, I agree with her. I don't know if I'd want to tell Brittany either, but I wouldn't want Brittany to get hurt. And she's got this information, so she's got to share it. She has to.

We Wine Whenever (02:06.366)
yes.

Kelli (02:20.65)
Think about what you would do though, cause like part of me feels like she should have called her off the show. She shouldn't have brought it up on the show, right? I know they're filming a show and this is what they're supposed to do, but I don't think in good conscience I could do that on air.

We Wine Whenever (02:25.798)
Absolutely.

absolutely.

We Wine Whenever (02:29.611)
Well, listen.

We Wine Whenever (02:37.771)
Brittany's a new housewife and she didn't come on as Angie's friend. I think that, well, she, yeah, I definitely think she's just a friend of, but she came on as Heather's friend, right? She came on as Heather's friend. So if anything, maybe she tells Heather if she really is Heather's friend, cause we don't know, cause we know how they play these games. So if she really is Heather's friend,

Kelli (02:45.558)
think she's just a friend of, isn't she?

Kelli (02:53.652)
Yeah. Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (03:04.048)
Yeah, we know how to play it.

Kelli (03:04.789)
Exactly.

We Wine Whenever (03:06.995)
Maybe she tell Heather and have Heather break the news to her. nonetheless, she's telling her husband about it and he's like, well, you he probably should tell her. And then we see, bro. Okay.

We Wine Whenever (03:20.14)
Wait, could Angie possibly have any more Greek items?

We Wine Whenever (03:25.978)
my god.

Kelli (03:26.922)
Well, you know why she did that.

We Wine Whenever (03:27.014)
Could she have any more Greek? I know, but could she have any more Greek? know. So was like, my gosh.

Kelli (03:32.948)
Yeah. She was going, Greek freak.

We Wine Whenever (03:34.175)
Well, she is a big, she was a big fan of Giannis. She's a huge fan of Giannis. And listen, after the Olympics, was a, I was a big fan of Giannis too after the Olympics, but I would not, I mean, she had the glasses made special.

Kelli (03:42.422)
But I agree, it was a little over the top.

Kelli (03:49.184)
The glasses were definitely over the top.

We Wine Whenever (03:51.915)
I just like, she's cute though. I really do think she's cute. I do, I think she's cute. I do too, I do too. And I'll tell you this, people are saying like, she deserves that center snowflake. People are out there saying that. Like she, this season deserves that center snowflake. And we talked about this in the first episode where it started out and she was the center. And then there was another picture where it was Heather in the center. And I thought that Heather deserved the center.

We Wine Whenever (03:52.87)
funny.

Kelli (03:55.998)
I like her.

We Wine Whenever (04:00.134)
like Andy too.

We Wine Whenever (04:20.541)
But what I've seen so far this season, must have been, they must have put, they must have put up last seasons and, and like cropped out Monica to put Heather in the middle. They do single shots. Yeah. Yeah.

Kelli (04:32.928)
Well, you know what they do? They put the visual shock, put them together so they can move them around however they want.

We Wine Whenever (04:42.229)
But they were different colored dresses.

Kelli (04:44.906)
Well, I did notice that they have different colored dresses now in there. I forget what they call them, but when they show them, like when they're highlighted in the next scene, they finally updated their dresses because they hadn't since season one until now. Lisa was in that same, she either had a silver dress or gold dress in the opposite boots, but she had silver and gold together. And I was like, that's interesting.

We Wine Whenever (04:52.329)
Yes. Yes.

We Wine Whenever (05:00.572)
Yes.

We Wine Whenever (05:10.961)
And that's what the first shot was of the cast photo. It was the silver and gold photo where they were all wearing those colors. So I think what happened was they started out that way. And then once the season started, they're like, wait a second, Angie gets the center snowflake. Like, let's put Angie in the center. I think right now I agree. I think Angie does deserve the center snowflake. So we'll see how the rest of the season goes.

Kelli (05:18.827)
Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (05:40.453)
So we see Mary shows up in Milwaukee first and she says reminds her of her dad because he's from Milwaukee and he lived a street away from Jeffrey Dahmer and he always smelled a smell. Like Mary.

We Wine Whenever (05:57.916)
Somebody put a post out about how like Mary's family, like if we could just like, they need to like get their nose like bottled and sold because if they can smell like what kind of nose you got. Yeah. Yeah, that's what they were saying. Like Mary's family. Yes. Yes. She needs to like farm that out for work.

Kelli (06:11.24)
A hospital, she smelled hospital the first season. Yes. Mary's family has a very high sense of smell. That's hysterical.

We Wine Whenever (06:23.718)
That is so funny.

Kelli (06:27.466)
That's hysterical. Let me ask you something. Why do these women not wear sweatpants on planes? They show up to get on the private plane. They got jeans on. They have very uncomfortable clothing on. Put your fucking yoga pants on and a hoodie and be comfortable on that plane like the rest of us people would do. Who's flying in an airplane in jeans? Come on. Not me neither.

We Wine Whenever (06:44.942)
on the plane. Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (06:51.244)
No, not me. Tell you that. It's not comfortable. That's how it feels.

We Wine Whenever (06:54.767)
How do you really feel? I love this. I love that you're so passionate about your flight attire.

Kelli (06:59.294)
It's the tequila. It's definitely the tequila.

We Wine Whenever (07:01.638)
to kill.

We Wine Whenever (07:04.453)
So she also says that her father was around to see Jeffrey Dahmer get arrested. And she thinks he was probably just being like nosy, being a nosy neighbor. And watching her go into the hotel with her three bags for two days and that guy, yeah, yeah, it was technically for it was technically for two days and they were big ass bags. I mean, I think she, she,

We Wine Whenever (07:11.387)
Mm-hmm.

We Wine Whenever (07:15.867)
Okay.

Kelli (07:21.184)
Four bags, I counted them.

We Wine Whenever (07:22.182)
Four, four, four.

Kelli (07:28.352)
Huge. The one was a carry-on, but the other three were enormous, but she had four bags for two days.

We Wine Whenever (07:28.475)
Yes, I were.

We Wine Whenever (07:36.566)
I know. Listen, I'm going to call what Mary says Mary isms because she, when we get to the next Mary ism, I, I, I, I almost, I almost fell off my chair. We're going to wait and get to it. going to wait till we get to it. So they show up and they meet the guy who's the, whatever he is, right? There's nine rooms around the living area so they can each have their own room. Thank goodness. That was gorgeous. That hotel. That was gorgeous. It was gorgeous.

We Wine Whenever (07:43.521)
so fun.

Kelli (07:47.574)
For sure.

We Wine Whenever (08:01.328)
Yes.

Kelli (08:01.398)
very nice.

We Wine Whenever (08:05.452)
And then we see.

We find out that Mealy, Melly, how do we pronounce her name? I think it is Mealy, and every time I say that, I'm thinking of Mealy worms, because I don't know any other Mealy, right? I know that's bad, like Mealy worms. Okay, what?

Kelli (08:13.034)
Mealy, I think.

We Wine Whenever (08:19.852)
No, I was thinking of mealy fruit. Like when fruit is mealy, it gets like grainy. You never had like a peach or something and it was mealy. Yeah. It's like gritty.

Kelli (08:19.894)
Agreed.

We Wine Whenever (08:29.602)
Mmm.

Kelli (08:30.23)
I never knew that term.

We Wine Whenever (08:36.393)
Okay. Okay, so Mealy, poor Mealy, that her and Whitney have been friends since college. didn't

Kelli (08:36.446)
Okay.

We Wine Whenever (08:37.83)
So we have worms and fruit.

Kelli (08:40.267)
Great.

Kelli (08:45.776)
No, that's not what she said. Whitney said, we've been friends for a little while, but we've run in the same circle of friends since college. So they have people in common, but she said, we've been friends for a little while. I only paid attention to that because of what Lori said last week, that it's basically a manufactured friendship.

We Wine Whenever (08:48.002)
But what did she say?

We Wine Whenever (08:56.532)
In college. okay.

We Wine Whenever (09:08.447)
Not her friend. Right, right, right. Okay, good, thank you for clarifying that because I was like, how, right, good. So then we see...

Kelli (09:12.692)
Yeah. Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (09:23.231)
Lisa starts talking about Jack having health problems because they ask how Jack is doing and she starts crying and he's having problems with his health, but she's very vague about it. Like he's having pains in his stomach and she's ready to get on the, on the plane to Columbia. But, and Meredith said, well, they've got to make exceptions for this. And she's like, yes, they, yes, but Jack doesn't want me there. He can handle this himself.

Kelli (09:50.688)
Could be anxiety.

We Wine Whenever (09:50.832)
This whole time, the whole time I'm thinking to myself, okay, Jack has like diarrhea and Lisa's like, I must go. And he's like, mom, I just had to shit. That's how I saw it. Yeah. There's.

Kelli (10:05.622)
I mean, he is in Columbia, like no disrespect, but anytime you go somewhere out of the country and eat their cuisine, your stomach has to get used to it. Right, right. Yeah, so it could be that. I actually thought anxiety, but my head always goes there.

We Wine Whenever (10:15.344)
or drink the water, yeah, you're gonna come across something funky.

We Wine Whenever (10:26.602)
But she was like, honestly, she was falling apart over it. I mean, listen, we all have children with issues.

Is... I don't know. I feel like it was just too much. It was too much!

We Wine Whenever (10:44.144)
You thought it was genuine?

Kelli (10:44.692)
I feel like if you're

We Wine Whenever (10:47.047)
I did not. Did you, Kelly?

We Wine Whenever (10:48.757)
No, I didn't think it was genuine. She's such a drama queen.

Kelli (10:50.718)
You didn't either.

Did only because I put myself in her shoes and I'm like if Mike first of all if my kid were out of the country I would I would probably Get into the fetal position and not get out of it until they got home safe Honestly, you both know I'm a nervous Nellie. I'm a worry wart. I'm a baby cry I'm all those things so I just thought me, you know your kids in another country no matter what it is You just want to help them and be there to take care of them

We Wine Whenever (11:06.928)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (11:23.946)
So I didn't think it was disingenuous, but what do I, you know.

We Wine Whenever (11:24.016)
And that may be true.

We Wine Whenever (11:28.05)
No, you could be right. You could be right.

We Wine Whenever (11:28.08)
That may be true, but it's the fact that she's such a drama queen anyway, then that's automatically where my mind goes to because of how she is.

Kelli (11:34.582)
Yeah, I know.

Yeah. Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (11:43.208)
Well, we'll have to wait and see how this plays out or if we even find out, right? We'll have to wait and see. So then they talk about Whitney says that they have a suite tonight at the Bucks game. And Angie's, mean, I guess they must've known that because she was planned for the whole Bucks game. So she's over the moon about that and that they are going to, there is a bobblehead museum in Milwaukee and Mary, I actually went to, and Mary says that, and she tells,

Kelli (11:47.722)
Yeah.

Kelli (11:58.645)
Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (12:05.446)
Yeah.

Kelli (12:07.412)
I'd love to go to that, actually.

We Wine Whenever (12:12.07)
She says, Whitney says, because Mary called me a bobblehead. And in her confessional, Mary says, well, Whitney was a bobblehead, but there is someone that has taken her place. And we know damn well who she's talking about. We do know, right? Yes. And then Heather brings up that there's also casinos in Milwaukee. And I listen, I think at this point, like there's gotta be casinos in every state, like, right? Right.

We Wine Whenever (12:24.668)
Yes, They flashed or happened to not.

Kelli (12:25.29)
They flashed to her, how could you not?

Kelli (12:34.186)
I didn't know that.

Kelli (12:39.454)
Everywhere. Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (12:42.021)
And then, you know, because Mormons are not allowed to gamble. They're not allowed to do anything addictive. You know, they're not allowed to drink alcohol, do drugs, gamble, caffeine, right. So of course, you know, half the group is gonna go gambling and the other half of the group is gonna go to the Bobblehead Museum. And we see them unpacking and Mary gets a call from her son.

We Wine Whenever (12:52.422)
Caffeine.

We Wine Whenever (13:09.254)
who's asking for $60 on his cash app. Like what? He's a grown man.

Kelli (13:16.603)
I don't even remember that. I must have zoned out at that point.

We Wine Whenever (13:18.032)
Yeah, I remember that.

We Wine Whenever (13:19.438)
Yeah, because she's like, you didn't even call like to see if I landed safely. If I'm okay, you want $60?

We Wine Whenever (13:25.34)
And he was like, yeah.

Kelli (13:25.531)
Well, you said you'd give him money.

We Wine Whenever (13:27.536)
He's like, yeah, yeah, he didn't even elaborate. He did not even elaborate. He's like, yeah, that's what I want. $60.

Kelli (13:30.248)
Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (13:34.108)
Didn't even ask like how was the flight. yeah. Now they mentioned how are you, how was your flight. No.

Kelli (13:39.307)
Right, right.

We Wine Whenever (13:40.141)
No, no, no, he did not. He did not even care. He wanted his $60 on the cash app. Okay, that's their relationship. Angie goes to see Bronwyn to see how she's doing after the ropes course. She's furious with Heather, but she's really mad with Lisa because she's known her longer. And she expected Lisa to kind of stick up for her in the whole situation where it kind of blew up because Lisa has known her longer and Heather was coming for her and Lisa didn't, you know, jump in on her behalf.

Kelli (13:48.352)
Yeah.

Kelli (14:10.666)
He's not anything wrong there.

I really don't.

We Wine Whenever (14:15.942)
We Wine Whenever (14:16.902)
She was talking some smack and hey.

Kelli (14:19.222)
She said something like, you know, that's the way Bronwyn talks or whatever. listen, again, just like New York, like Bronwyn, you knew what you were getting yourself into. This is what they do. This is what your friends do to you when you become a housewife.

We Wine Whenever (14:34.118)
Mm-hmm.

We Wine Whenever (14:38.052)
I agree with that. It's probably because I just don't like Lisa and I never have. I don't think Lisa's a good friend to anyone. She was never a good friend to Meredith. She was never a good friend to Meredith and her and Meredith were supposedly friends. And she has known Bronwyn the longest and I don't think she is a good friend. I really don't. I will say the fact that Heather and Whitney are the Buzz and cousins and they really are cousins.

Kelli (14:43.231)
Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (14:45.826)
No. Only herself.

Kelli (14:46.112)
Probably not.

Kelli (14:53.545)
Right, yes.

We Wine Whenever (15:07.231)
Even though they fight, I feel like they still have each other's backs. When it comes down to it, I feel like they still have each other's backs where I feel like Lisa has Lisa's back and only Lisa's back and she doesn't care about anybody else.

Kelli (15:11.966)
Yeah, I think when it comes down to it, yeah, yeah.

Kelli (15:23.05)
Yeah, I co-signed that,

We Wine Whenever (15:25.721)
Listen, I don't like it. I really don't like it. mean, you're friends. Is it that important to you to, I don't know, feel like, is it that important to you to be the top dog in this group?

Kelli (15:39.542)
think she was just basically like, all right, well, Broma got herself into some shit, so let's see how she gets herself out of it, because this is Housewives, and that's what you have to do. Like, she can't be there to defend her all the time, and you just got yourself into some shit, and now you gotta navigate through that, because this is your first season, and, you know.

We Wine Whenever (15:48.016)
Right.

We Wine Whenever (15:50.606)
Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (15:53.743)
No.

We Wine Whenever (16:00.512)
Right. So while she's talking to Angie, she says, listen, I may have said, you know, I may have said those things, but Lisa said far worse about Melee. And we're going to hear that later. We're going to hear that later.

Kelli (16:14.442)
Right. Right. Right.

We Wine Whenever (16:20.076)
And then they cut, they give us a cut to what Lisa actually said about Melee, because we didn't see that. They didn't show that at the time that it had happened. They were in the car. Right, but when we saw them in the car, we did not see that scene. We did not see that scene. Which is again, why these shows are so confusing right now. Because everyone is talking shit back and forth, and they're doing these playbacks that we didn't see when they had happened.

Kelli (16:27.988)
No, they were in the car, right? She said Nordstrom's gonna revoke her business because she returns everything.

Now, nope.

Kelli (16:44.928)
Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (16:49.365)
which is causing me to stop and rewind it to understand it so that I can talk about it. If I wasn't talking about it, I would just keep going forward because it's too confusing. And I feel like that is what the average viewer is doing. Like stop doing this, stop doing this. It's confusing, it's just confusing.

Kelli (17:04.532)
Yeah, for sure.

Kelli (17:09.962)
Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (17:12.606)
And they're gonna, like the producers know and the editors know what they're gonna show in the next scene, then show it in the first, show it just the first time, right?

Kelli (17:20.33)
Right. Yeah. Absolutely.

We Wine Whenever (17:22.609)
I agree.

We Wine Whenever (17:24.896)
So then we see Whitney goes to Heather's room and they have a drink together and that, you know, they cheers to the buzzing cousins. Like I just said, Heather asked how her relationship is going with Meredith. And you know, it's, we know it's not going well. And then, cause she's going on the trip with Meredith, like her and Meredith are going gambling. So she thinks maybe she can be like a little bridge between them. And then Whitney says, well, how, you know, how is she doing with Bronwyn? And Heather says that Bronwyn was making fun of Whitney.

And it didn't even seem like she wanted to have a relationship with her, but Whitney doesn't see this. Whitney sees that, like Heather is riding hard for her and having her back. And she appreciates that, but she doesn't see what Bronwyn did. Is that how you guys see it?

Kelli (18:13.172)
Yeah. Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (18:14.651)
Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (18:17.407)
So the casino group that we see is Angie, Meredith, Lisa, and Brittany, and they're all playing roulette. The bobblehead group is Whitney, Mary, Bronwyn, and Mealy.

While they're there at the casino group, Brittany is sitting next to Lisa and she's like texting with Jared. And then Lisa's like, what are you doing? And then Lisa grabs her phone.

Kelli (18:41.492)
Yeah, Lisa grabbed the phone. That was amazing. We all need a friend like Lisa in that respect. She crushed that text to him.

We Wine Whenever (18:44.895)
She's like.

Yes. Yeah. what did she text him back? Do you remember?

Kelli (18:54.003)
like so sorry, didn't have my phone, having so much fun. Did he respond? Yeah, don't know what time or if I will. Did he respond back or they didn't show that?

We Wine Whenever (18:56.703)
Right. Right.

We Wine Whenever (18:58.534)
Don't know what time we'll be back tonight.

We Wine Whenever (19:00.82)
Mm-hmm.

We Wine Whenever (19:03.034)
Yeah. Bye.

We Wine Whenever (19:04.084)
Right. We don't know. They didn't show it. We don't know. We don't know.

We Wine Whenever (19:09.884)
She just screams desperation. It's very sad.

Kelli (19:15.09)
Yeah. Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (19:16.38)
It is. It is sad. It is sad.

Kelli (19:19.382)
Like he asked me to be his girlfriend. How old is she? She's got to be 40, right?

We Wine Whenever (19:21.412)
No, he didn't.

No. He took you to Costco and posted a picture that he's with his best friend. That's all he did. No.

We Wine Whenever (19:25.167)
at least. At least, I think.

Kelli (19:32.8)
Bye. Bye.

We Wine Whenever (19:33.852)
Yeah. And did you see?

Kelli (19:36.212)
And listen, I was that girl, but I was that girl like early 20s.

We Wine Whenever (19:40.548)
In high school. Thank you.

We Wine Whenever (19:42.643)
Did you see his post that he put out in response to this before the episode came out? so he put out his own post in response to this before the episode came out that I'm going to paraphrase it because I didn't write it down. But basically he said that he he's been friends with Brittany for a long time and he agreed to like be on the be with her so she would have like a storyline on the show.

Kelli (19:47.679)
No.

Kelli (20:12.99)
No he did not.

We Wine Whenever (20:13.043)
And she is painting him in this picture that he is a horrible person, but she knew all well and good that they were really just friends. And he was there for her and she knew who he was and she did him dirty and that he is not this person that we are seeing.

Kelli (20:36.842)
That's terrible.

We Wine Whenever (20:37.106)
I'm like, no matter what she said, like you have just painted yourself in a.

Kelli (20:44.872)
It's the John Jansen thing. You keep saying that Shannon's making you look bad. You're making yourself look bad. And now this guy's doing the same thing. my God. That's awful.

We Wine Whenever (20:47.014)
Yes.

We Wine Whenever (20:51.43)
Right. Right. Right. Right. He's like, you, yes, because we know, we know, I mean, we don't know yet, but we do know that they've broken up, are not together. And he posts this prior to this episode even airing. I was like, man, like, yep, yep.

We Wine Whenever (20:53.596)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (21:13.238)
What a douche. What a douche.

We Wine Whenever (21:16.22)
Yeah, he's definitely a player.

We Wine Whenever (21:18.351)
Yep. Yes he is. I mean he's an F boy. We all know it. We all know it. Why doesn't she see it? You know why she doesn't see it?

Kelli (21:18.814)
Yes, yes, yes, yes.

We Wine Whenever (21:24.016)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (21:26.838)
Because when you're in it, you don't say it. When you're in it, you don't say it. So how about when Meredith pulls Heather over and talks about Whitney's business and how.

We Wine Whenever (21:29.783)
Yeah, I know, I know.

We Wine Whenever (21:38.779)
Was it Meredith? think Heather pulled, I think it was the other way around. I think Heather pulled Meredith over, right? Yes, yes.

Kelli (21:43.956)
Yeah, well they're on the side talking and Meredith claims that Whitney's products are Alibaba, whatever that is, and she's marking it up. I guess it's like a Teemu. And she's marking it up and, listen Meredith, shut up.

We Wine Whenever (21:44.038)
Yes, yes, I was.

We Wine Whenever (21:55.888)
Yes, it is, but wholesale. 10 to 20 times.

We Wine Whenever (21:56.508)
Yes. Yes.

Kelli (22:05.14)
I'm so tired of you bringing like stupid fake storylines.

We Wine Whenever (22:11.088)
Well, I don't know because they showed a screenshot of Whitney's product and the Alibaba product. And she was even using the same Alibaba screenshot of the product. wasn't like she got the product off Alibaba for wholesale, brought it to her store, redid it and took a picture. No, it was like the same picture from Alibaba, which is low budget. It's low budget.

Kelli (22:27.87)
and took a picture of it somewhere else.

Kelli (22:36.126)
damn.

We Wine Whenever (22:37.315)
But listen, the way Meredith presented it was that it was a social media post that somebody else put out there and she was tagged in it hundreds of times. Hundreds of times.

We Wine Whenever (22:49.564)
Mm-hmm. Which is a little, which is a little sus because we know Meredith's pension for causing trouble and posting things. So it could have very well even been her who started the whole damn thing. Mm-hmm.

Kelli (22:51.242)
That's bullshit.

We Wine Whenever (22:55.467)
We know right.

We Wine Whenever (23:00.993)
It absolutely could have been and Heather was like, what are you going to be there to stand by her side and to support her? And she's like, well, I don't think she wants my support. I mean, I'm not going to do a Heather. I mean, a Meredith impression, even though I would like to, because I can't stand her, but she doesn't want my support. I've been designing for years.

Kelli (23:01.225)
Exactly.

We Wine Whenever (23:08.803)
No, come on.

Kelli (23:17.01)
I know. Yeah.

Kelli (23:24.291)
I've won multiple design awards.

We Wine Whenever (23:25.052)
I could have saved her.

Kelli (23:37.056)
Okay.

We Wine Whenever (23:37.902)
Alright, come on. This again is just Meredith stirring the pot and making up bullshit. Even if...

Kelli (23:46.646)
And then she says, think Whitney has an issue with me. No, you clearly have the issue with Whitney.

We Wine Whenever (23:52.379)
Yes.

We Wine Whenever (23:52.447)
Right. Because Heather says to her, listen, she called you up and asked like, could you bring caviar for the girls? And you responded, well, I already am. And Meredith said, well, maybe she was asking me to bring caviar because she's going to now have a caviar line. What? I mean, seriously? I really, I don't, I don't, I don't ever use the word hate, but I really dislike her. really.

Kelli (24:18.868)
I know.

We Wine Whenever (24:21.68)
strongly dislike Meredith. don't think she does not have any redeeming qualities. There is nothing about her that I like.

Kelli (24:24.064)
She's hard to watch.

Kelli (24:30.496)
She's not talking about her real life. Can we all just agree that she's not sharing anything real that's going on in her life. She's making up the bat mitzvah story. Although I will say that one of our supporters did say that she grew up Jewish and the girls were not encouraged to make their bat mitzvahs.

We Wine Whenever (24:42.485)
Yes.

We Wine Whenever (24:47.54)
in a specific sect of Judaism. She did say that and I, yes, I appreciate that. I appreciate that.

Kelli (24:49.682)
Right, right. I appreciate that too, and I totally believe it. I do, however, think that Meredith is making this up for a storyline. I don't think she's so overwhelmed with a renewed faith that she now has to make a bat mitzvah.

We Wine Whenever (25:01.26)
By the way, same to our listener.

We Wine Whenever (25:07.308)
Right. The listener that commented about that said the same thing. Although she does know what she's talking about, she 100 % agreed with us that it was made up for a storyline.

Kelli (25:08.736)
I'm not buying it.

Kelli (25:18.036)
Yeah, yeah. I did not know that not all girls were encouraged to do so. So I thank the listener for saying that. But Meredith, She does not share anything about her real life on this show. She doesn't. She never has, and she's still not.

We Wine Whenever (25:24.799)
Listener.

We Wine Whenever (25:30.848)
Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (25:40.467)
No, it's true. It's true.

We Wine Whenever (25:43.26)
How about when they're in a car going somewhere and that new one, that Bronwyn says, it's horrifying that I'm having sex with someone old enough to have gout. And I'm thinking to myself, I know younger people who have gout. yeah.

Kelli (25:56.118)
I've ever written down.

listen up, sis. My husband gets gout and has since his twenties. It's in your blood, girl. Your uric acid level gets too high, you get gout.

We Wine Whenever (26:01.236)
You

We Wine Whenever (26:04.732)
All right.

We Wine Whenever (26:06.827)
You

We Wine Whenever (26:10.052)
And not only that...

Kelli (26:11.857)
I got that written down. I was pissed.

We Wine Whenever (26:13.628)
Yeah. And not only that, who says that about their husband? Look, so it's good enough for you to go to the bank with his money. But, but now all of a sudden, now all of a sudden he's like, you're horrified that he's that old. Well, you knew his age when you married him, girl. What do you, what are you thinking? You think gout is, you think gout is bad? You just wait. Just wait.

Kelli (26:18.398)
an asshole.

We Wine Whenever (26:22.345)
A gold digger. A gold digger.

Kelli (26:22.91)
No shit. Yep.

Kelli (26:30.251)
Bye!

Yep. Yep.

We Wine Whenever (26:34.345)
He was hot.

Kelli (26:37.628)
Yeah, just wait. Just you wait.

We Wine Whenever (26:41.801)
He was hot when he was standing on all of his money.

Kelli (26:44.362)
That's right. That's right. Yep. Yep.

We Wine Whenever (26:44.368)
There you go.

We Wine Whenever (26:46.431)
You gold digging? Biatch. Listen, I don't have respect for people like that.

We Wine Whenever (26:48.313)
Yeah.

Kelli (26:53.822)
I have that Brahmin calm down Gout can start in your 20s

We Wine Whenever (26:57.308)
There you go.

We Wine Whenever (26:57.833)
Yep. Yep. So then we see Lisa is dressed in her head to toe Greek attire, including her glasses, because she is supporting. Angie. Yes, Angie. Yes, Angie. Yes, exactly. Thank you. Angie's dressed head to toe in her Greek attire, including her glasses. She's supporting her man, Giannis Anakoupos. So Anakoupo.

Kelli (27:06.47)
Angie. Angie is right. Yeah. Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (27:07.363)
And again, yeah.

Kelli (27:19.752)
not an easy name to pronounce.

We Wine Whenever (27:21.483)
Giannis Anakupo. So I watched him all during the Olympics. And tonight, before we did this, I had to ask Andrew, like, can you give me a pronunciation again? Because I wanted to get it right. And Will said, what do you want? Why do you want this? I said, because I'm talking about it. Because what do you want this for? Giannis Anakupo. He is the Greek freak. And according to Andrew, he's going to be traded. So he's not going to be there much longer. Listen, I watched him. He's a good basketball. I love basketball. I love watching basketball.

Kelli (27:45.881)
wow.

We Wine Whenever (27:46.767)
I won't.

Kelli (27:50.422)
Mm-hmm.

We Wine Whenever (27:50.982)
He's a good basketball player. So they're sitting courtside for the warmups and they get their pictures with the players and then they go up to the suite. This is where we get the Maryism. She says she feels like she has to blow her nose and Angie says, you can go to the restroom. And Mary says, I don't use public restrooms. They're gross. I just put a tampon in. I just put a tampon in there. It works.

We Wine Whenever (28:05.99)
Ha ha.

Kelli (28:19.296)
Make sure it's a stupor.

We Wine Whenever (28:20.665)
Make sure it's a super, it works, I promise.

We Wine Whenever (28:23.952)
I googled this.

Kelli (28:24.286)
I mean...

We Wine Whenever (28:25.819)
You Googled it? And what did Google say?

We Wine Whenever (28:26.906)
I Googled this.

Kelli (28:28.862)
There, see Lurie with the deep dive, I love it.

We Wine Whenever (28:31.74)
Google said that it is a thing. It's not a good thing to do. And it should only be done sporadically. But what happens is when you place that there, it puts pressure on your urethra. And it will kind of curb the sensation.

We Wine Whenever (28:38.011)
No, I would think not.

We Wine Whenever (28:50.951)
Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (28:58.224)
that you have to urinate. There are urinary incontinence products that you can use that are very similar to a supersized tampon that will do the same thing, but you should not use the tampon because you can get toxic shock syndrome. You should only use it, you should only use, right, you should only use a tampon when you're menstruating. And not only that, you,

Kelli (29:14.396)
Exactly, that's what I was thinking. How long she got this thing in for?

We Wine Whenever (29:25.028)
I don't know what kind of super-jotch Mary's got, but you got to load that thing up with some lube with no period. it was just hysterical because I thought to myself, I've got to Google this now. I have to see if this is a real thing. Crazy.

Kelli (29:34.1)
Right.

Kelli (29:41.686)
That's crazy. I thought that was nuts. Especially knowing that there's specific products for this. Yeah, like, get those on, like the people who, you know, can't control, like that have bladder issues that have to wear those things, you know, there's products out there. Get that, you fucking weirdo. Sorry, she's a very nice lady, bud. That's weird. That's weird.

We Wine Whenever (29:48.58)
Yes.

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But yet...

We Wine Whenever (30:05.308)
But yet, she didn't want to take a bath because she was going to get...

Kelli (30:12.118)
You're... Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (30:12.526)
an infection, but you're willing to get like toxic shock syndrome so you don't have to pee in public like this madness.

Kelli (30:16.979)
Right.

We Wine Whenever (30:20.481)
I she will not use a public restroom. Listen, I have never heard such insanity. I seriously have not.

Kelli (30:28.512)
Can't you just carry a tiny spray bottle, like a tiny can of Lysol? Go in that bathroom and before you touch anything, Lysol the fuck out of it. Wouldn't that be healthier? And relieve your bladder.

We Wine Whenever (30:37.084)
Bye.

We Wine Whenever (30:39.577)
Yes, of course you can! Yes.

We Wine Whenever (30:39.836)
But listen, who sits on a public toilet? That is hover territory. You hover. You don't ever sit on that toilet seat. You hover over that.

Kelli (30:54.642)
I line it with toilet paper. If I'm drunk, sometimes I'm just sitting. I'm not gonna lie.

We Wine Whenever (30:58.396)
Well, yeah. But that's a haversituation. That's a haversituation.

We Wine Whenever (31:00.761)
Listen, I'll be honest with you. I'll be honest with you. I'm not a good hover. I will go in there. I will clean that toilet seat and I will sit my ass down because I don't want to pee on my pants. I don't want to pee on my pants. I don't want it to go. But listen, if you got to go, you got to go and you got to do what you got to do.

Kelli (31:01.45)
I've been known to just sit.

Kelli (31:12.661)
Yeah.

Right, right. Sometimes I don't have the balance. It's not, we're beyond that point.

Exactly. Exactly. You can't hold that in. You're going to get sick.

We Wine Whenever (31:29.347)
I'm not sticking a tampon! I'm not sticking a tampon in there!

We Wine Whenever (31:33.444)
No, no, and you really should not hold your urine in when you have to go to the bathroom. can lead to a bladder infection. It was just madness.

Kelli (31:33.727)
Not if I don't have to.

We Wine Whenever (31:35.549)
dear.

Kelli (31:39.798)
Mm-mm.

Exactly, or UTI.

We Wine Whenever (31:45.325)
Or even worse, a kidney infection. Please, please don't listen. Don't listen to Mary, don't listen to Mary for advice. I mean, I'm here for the Maryisms, but this is craziness. This is craziness. This is madness. I mean, I was laughing as well. Don't get me wrong.

We Wine Whenever (31:47.93)
Mm-hmm. Yeah. Very painful.

Kelli (31:50.902)
Yeah, Mary, call us, honey. We'll give you some other options for the love of God.

Kelli (31:59.136)
For sure. Yeah, as crazy town as Laurie would say.

We Wine Whenever (32:02.822)
That was hysterical.

Yeah, that's a good one. That's a good one.

We Wine Whenever (32:09.315)
Then we see Brittany is FaceTiming Jared with Angie standing right behind her telling Bronwyn about the brow girl. Literally right behind her.

Kelli (32:16.438)
She's talking right behind her.

We Wine Whenever (32:16.678)
You know, why, why is Angie saying it to Bronwyn? That's rude. You got to say, you want to say something to her. You say something to her. Yeah. You pull her. So, I mean, doing it on camera is douchey. You shouldn't have done it on camera, but you shouldn't, why are you telling other people?

Kelli (32:27.382)
Polaroid.

We Wine Whenever (32:38.543)
Bronwyn says to her, it is embarrassing. Bronwyn says, if you knew this about me, I'd want you to tell me. And then Brittany kind of gets like a feeling as to what's going on. She's like, are you talking about me? And then all of sudden Meredith appears. Like where the hell did Meredith come from? Seriously.

We Wine Whenever (32:38.94)
It's embarrassing for her.

Kelli (32:40.79)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (32:57.29)
but she did try to swoop in there. I think he was behind Angie and Bronwyn when they were talking. And then she saw that Brittany was getting upset. I think that's what happened, but she did try to swoop in there.

We Wine Whenever (33:09.088)
But all of a sudden, yeah, all of a sudden, Meredith is there listening to the whole conversation. They tell her what's, they tell Brittany what's going on. And she's like, listen, I'm going to be right back. And obviously she's crying and she's upset. And Meredith goes with her to the bathroom to, you know, to comfort her. listen, I was glad that Meredith went with her because again, I'm not a Meredith fan. I don't think she has any redeeming qualities. Even though she was there for Brittany, I still do not like her. Let's make this perfectly clear.

And Lisa's like, should we, you know, no. Bronwyn is like, should we go and check on her? And Angie's like, listen, Meredith is with her. So they let Meredith handle that.

Kelli (33:49.959)
Mm-hmm. Yeah, I don't think they needed a big powwow in the bathroom.

We Wine Whenever (33:53.614)
No, no.

We Wine Whenever (33:53.733)
No, they certainly did not. They did not.

Kelli (33:57.418)
And what did they have lobster corn dogs?

We Wine Whenever (34:00.796)
That sounded good.

We Wine Whenever (34:01.257)
That's, that's sweet has some good food. That's sweet has some good food.

Kelli (34:02.677)
That sounded good. That sounded good. And I'm trying not to eat because of this wedding. That scene was hard to get through. Not that I'm not, I'm sorry. I'm not trying to not eat. me clarify because I eat. I'm trying not to eat anything at night after I eat dinner.

We Wine Whenever (34:06.62)
That sounded really good. But that sounded really good.

We Wine Whenever (34:13.116)
Mm-hmm.

We Wine Whenever (34:14.014)
Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (34:26.685)
Okay, that's a good plan. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So then Lisa asks Braunwyn how the museum was and Millie goes up to Lisa and says, Braunwyn asked me to ask you what you think about my outfits because she wanted to bring up what Lisa said. And Lisa said, it was a snarky comment after she said something about how it's Valentino and I said you will find it back on the rack at Nordstrom's.

We Wine Whenever (34:27.228)
Which is good idea anyway.

Kelli (34:27.978)
Yeah, so it was hard to get through that scene.

We Wine Whenever (34:55.686)
So again, it's Bronwyn trying to produce and trying to try.

Kelli (35:03.584)
Yeah, well, I think basically her point is you did the same thing to Melee that I did to Whitney and I'm getting chastised for it at a lunch and you're just getting away with it.

We Wine Whenever (35:14.481)
Mm-hmm.

We Wine Whenever (35:17.147)
Right, so Bronwyn chimes in on this and Lisa says, listen, Bronwyn, I feel sorry that you don't feel like I supported you, but you could have said something when Heather was yelling at me. Lisa says in her confessional, I did defend her. I don't know what she wants from me. Throw a glass for her? I only do that when I'm defending myself. And that's just Lisa being Lisa. Like I said, Lisa cares about nobody.

But Lisa, she-

Kelli (35:47.498)
and pretty much everybody on social media saying the same thing. Like enough with the, I'm Lisa, this is how I am, take me or leave me.

We Wine Whenever (35:59.005)
So then Heather comes up and she's to the conversation and she says to Bronwyn, I didn't mean to put you on blast. And Bronwyn says, well, you did put me on blast and you and I are gonna need to get correct about a few things before we can go forward. Those are some strong words. mean, seriously some strong words to Heather. Like maybe you could say that to Whitney. Seriously, you probably could say that to Whitney, but to say that to Heather, they're two different people on two different levels, seriously.

Kelli (36:13.942)
Those are strong words.

Kelli (36:23.925)
Yeah.

Kelli (36:28.5)
Yeah, well, think that Brom- I don't think Broman's checking levels right now. I think she's just pissed that she got called out the way she did and all this other nonsense is going on and she's like, well, what the fuck? Why was I called out then? Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (36:34.019)
No, she certainly is not.

We Wine Whenever (36:43.493)
Right, exactly, exactly.

We Wine Whenever (36:43.953)
Well, welcome, welcome to the show. I have to say, welcome to the show. Yeah.

Kelli (36:47.574)
Exactly. This is what you literally this is what you signed on for.

We Wine Whenever (36:47.868)
Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (36:52.965)
Right, right, exactly. That's exactly what you signed off. It's exactly what you signed on for. So basically they're going back and forth. And then in Bronwyn's confession, she said, everyone needs to know that everyone is doing this to each other. Everyone is talking behind each other's backs. It's not just me. I'm not the root of the problem. I'm just the best dressed.

Kelli (37:14.57)
which is questionable Brahman.

We Wine Whenever (37:16.496)
Well, let me just say this. Let me just say this, please. Because Bronwyn's outfit at that ending confessional, she looked like Ronald McDonald's wife. Ronald McDonald's wife. Girl, I don't know how much you overpaid for whatever it is you got on, but somebody laughed all the way to the bank that you bought that.

We Wine Whenever (37:16.569)
Right. You, we may, yeah.

Kelli (37:29.204)
Yes, she did.

We Wine Whenever (37:45.52)
So horrible.

Kelli (37:47.07)
It's like Jenna Lyon's vagina dress.

We Wine Whenever (37:49.754)
It was bad. It was bad.

Kelli (37:51.326)
It's bad. It's bad.

We Wine Whenever (37:52.165)
It's bad. But listen, it's not her money. I mean, it is her money because she's married, but it's not her money. It's not her money.

We Wine Whenever (38:00.124)
Yeah, but it doesn't matter. There's tons of beautiful shit out there in the world. Beautiful things. Why are you looking like Ronald McDonald's wife?

Kelli (38:02.102)
Ugh.

Kelli (38:10.24)
Yeah, I mean, yeah. And she wants the attention. She wants the attention. I wonder how her daughter dresses. I wonder if we'll see her daughter.

We Wine Whenever (38:11.398)
Makes no sense.

We Wine Whenever (38:11.741)
She likes to make a statement. She likes to make a statement.

We Wine Whenever (38:14.438)
Well that's a statement alright.

We Wine Whenever (38:22.109)
would like to see your daughter and the cafe and her little coffee shop. I would like to see Gwen, right? Her name is Gwen. Yeah. We'll have to see how the season turns out. mean, right now.

Kelli (38:23.55)
I would too. Yeah.

Kelli (38:28.202)
Yeah.

Kelli (38:33.716)
What did she say her daughter wants to open up a coffee shop? I honestly think that this is what Tess truly wants to do.

We Wine Whenever (38:36.859)
Yes, yes.

We Wine Whenever (38:36.954)
Yeah, I'll coffee.

We Wine Whenever (38:42.781)
She wants, so she should do that.

Kelli (38:45.331)
She's gonna go to school for something in the medical field, but I do think that she'll wind up doing that one day.

We Wine Whenever (38:51.726)
Well, listen, you could be many things in this life. You don't have, you know what I'm saying?

Kelli (38:54.44)
Yeah, listen, exactly. And you don't have to know what you want to be for the rest of your life at 20 years old.

We Wine Whenever (39:00.251)
You do not have to put yourself in a box. Just listen, this is like, we are evolving. Every day we're evolving. Just be the best bee you can be right now, right?

Kelli (39:02.335)
Nope.

Kelli (39:05.79)
Yeah. Absolutely. Yes. Yep.

We Wine Whenever (39:09.724)
That's it.

We Wine Whenever (39:12.701)
think that's it for Salt Lake, unless you guys have anything else.

We Wine Whenever (39:12.806)
Yeah, so.

Kelli (39:16.508)
I don't and I didn't even watch watch what happens live with Heather quite honestly. I have it in my DVR, but I haven't watched it yet Yeah, so Yeah

We Wine Whenever (39:20.069)
I did not either. No, I didn't watch it either. we'll, whatever. We'll see what happens. Until next time, thank you for watching us. Please like us, share us, and give us some five star reviews. They really do help. Bye.

Kelli (39:36.662)
they do. Bye.

We Wine Whenever (39:38.918)
Bye.