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RHONY Season 15, Episode 2: "You Can Run But You Can’t Ride"

In this episode, the women of RHONY navigate personal and relational challenges while preparing for a trip to the Hamptons. Erin meets with her mother, who is undergoing chemotherapy, at a wig shop, sharing her vulnerability and struggles with Abe, who has kept financial secrets from her. The tension between Erin and Brynn escalates when Erin confronts her about trying to disrupt her friendship with Jenna. Despite the confrontation, they eventually clear the air.

Sai and Jenna bond over lunch, and Sai expresses frustration with Brynn, feeling betrayed by her. Ubah, while focusing on her fitness and future, also deals with lingering concerns about Brynn's manipulation and relationships. As the women prepare for their Hamptons trip, tensions remain high, especially between Brynn and Sai, while lighthearted moments like Ubah shopping for a "hard nipple bra" and Jenna's Bentley purchase balance the heavier emotional content.

Abe and Erin have an honest conversation about trust and finances, revealing more about their marriage's complexity. Meanwhile, Brynn’s confessional reveals the awkwardness of a conversation about Scientology during a helicopter ride. The episode closes with Erin and Abe resolving to move forward, and the group preparing for their upcoming Hamptons getaway.

Takeaways

• Erin's support for her mother is heartfelt and significant.
• Brynn's actions are seen as manipulative and messy.
• The importance of accountability in friendships is emphasized.
• Financial decisions in relationships can lead to trust issues.
• Past betrayals can affect current friendships.
• Emotional authenticity is questioned in certain scenes.
• The hosts express differing opinions on the authenticity of Erin's tears.
• The dynamics of friendship are complex and often fraught with tension.
• Trust is crucial in maintaining relationships among the cast.
• The episode showcases the challenges of navigating personal and public lives. Encouraging independence in children is a challenging yet rewarding experience.
• Luxury cars can sometimes be impractical for city living.
• Anticipating drama in social gatherings can lead to interesting dynamics.
• Personal fears, such as fear of flying, can impact travel decisions.
• Fashion choices can spark lively discussions about personal preferences.
• Controversial topics can create tension in social settings.
• Public perception of religion can influence personal narratives.
• Support and solidarity are crucial during times of loss.
• Humor can be found in the most unexpected situations.
• Navigating friendships requires understanding and empathy.

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We Wine Whenever (00:01.07)
Hi, welcome to We Wine Whenever. I'm Wendy.

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I'm Kelly.

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And I'm Lori.

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We are talking about Real Housewives of New York, season 15, episode number two. And this one is called, You Can Run But You Can't Ride. I actually didn't get that. I didn't get it. You got it?

We Wine Whenever (00:19.356)
You didn't get it? I get it. Yeah. Well, it's no, it's Jenna's new ride and the helicopter. See? Yeah. And her new car. Yeah. Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (00:21.237)
because of the Uber? Because of the Uber thing?

We Wine Whenever (00:24.13)
I mean, that was last week.

We Wine Whenever (00:29.363)
okay.

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the helicopter. Okay.

We Wine Whenever (00:34.228)
Okay. All right. Well, her new car, yeah.

So we start with Erin meeting up with her mom at the wig shop and Erin got her hair cut to look like her mom because she wants to support her mom going through chemo. So she's going to wear wigs with her mom, which I thought was very nice, you know?

We Wine Whenever (00:56.149)
realize Aaron was an only child, her mom's only child.

We Wine Whenever (00:59.423)
I did not either. I did not either. was

We Wine Whenever (01:02.069)
Like all of her siblings are from her father.

We Wine Whenever (01:04.683)
Yeah, I didn't know that.

We Wine Whenever (01:04.912)
Yeah. And I did notice, I thought it was the last episode in the confessional. I thought to myself, her hair looks weird, but it's because she was wearing a wig. When she has that long wavy hair that like Mormon wives' Rapunzel hair do, it was a wig. But I thought I had it written down in my notes and I never got around to saying it. How like, her hair looks odd, but that's

We Wine Whenever (01:18.133)
that makes sense.

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Yes. Yes.

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Yes.

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That's why.

We Wine Whenever (01:34.839)
That's, yeah, that's it. And then Uber shows up too. And she says that, I didn't realize Erin was, so Uber was the first one that Erin told about her mom. And then they start talking about what had happened last night while her mom is trying on some wigs. And Erin says that she's really hurt by what Brynn did trying to ruin her friendship with Jenna, which, you I don't blame her. I mean, I think we, you know, kind of touched on this. Brynn is just being messy.

She really is being messy.

We Wine Whenever (02:06.421)
She's twisting things and just trying to cause problems, guess, trying to cause drama. Maybe she's gonna become that housewife that she thinks that needs to be her job.

We Wine Whenever (02:17.921)
Yeah, I hope, I hope.

We Wine Whenever (02:20.348)
We've said this before, hurt people hurt people. So I think that this is some of Brynn's baggage showing up.

We Wine Whenever (02:21.229)
Okay.

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Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (02:32.851)
Yeah, I agree.

We Wine Whenever (02:34.741)
Yeah, I mean, I agree too, but...

You know, you have to be accountable. And Sai was in the same situation and she, you know, is going to therapy and is trying to do better. I don't, I don't know.

We Wine Whenever (02:49.757)
Especially when they flashed back. I agree, Lord. Cause I, especially when they flashed back to the last episode last season where she yelled out, Uba, I hear you have a man in Connecticut and saw his face was like, like that was so on purpose. So on purpose. And that was really something that Uba didn't want to talk about yet because it was so new and you can't blame her. Like that was, that was harsh. thought that was harsh.

We Wine Whenever (03:07.604)
Definitely.

We Wine Whenever (03:19.664)
Yeah, but Sy shouldn't have told Brynn. Sy shouldn't have told Brynn either. Come on.

We Wine Whenever (03:19.942)
It was harsh and you know, go ahead.

We Wine Whenever (03:25.843)
No, definitely not.

We Wine Whenever (03:28.05)
Yeah, but the thing about that is, even Uba, you know, Sai felt horrible, but Uba said that's when she stopped trusting Brynn because Sai confided in Brynn and Brynn was supposed to be her girl because they were close and Sai was inviting her over for the holidays. she, know, like we were led to believe when that we, you know, we first started watching that they actually knew each other before, you know, cause she was hanging out and she said that, you know, Sai was, you know, relationship goals for her.

We Wine Whenever (03:36.607)
That's right.

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Right.

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Yep.

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And it turns out that, you know, she did betray her and Uber caught onto that right away. It wasn't even so much that she was mad at Brynn for saying it or that she was mad at Cy for telling her she was mad at Brynn because she betrayed Cy. You know what I mean?

We Wine Whenever (04:14.086)
Yes.

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Yeah, and in the off season, I remember seeing a lot of pictures of Uba, Brynn and Jessel together. And I feel like Uba's distanced herself since then.

We Wine Whenever (04:28.882)
Yeah, and I guess we'll have to wait and see what happens with it.

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Yeah.

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Now I do want to say when they're at the place getting the mom's wig and Erin is telling Uva.

It just felt a little manufactured to me. she couldn't even squeeze out a real tear. Like, I don't know. It just felt a little fakey to me. Just saying.

We Wine Whenever (04:56.723)
lot of people online are saying the same thing.

We Wine Whenever (05:00.18)
You mean when she was telling about Abe?

We Wine Whenever (05:03.546)
Yeah, that scene when she was really upset, it just wasn't, there's something a little bit unauthentic about it and forced to me a little bit produced. Because if your mom has, yeah, if your mom has cancer and you're in a bad place with your husband, it's not that hard to elk out a tear. Like, I don't know. It was just off to me.

We Wine Whenever (05:03.984)
Yeah, like when she was, yeah. Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (05:06.75)
Well, yeah, I it's.

We Wine Whenever (05:17.907)
A lot of people online are saying the same thing.

We Wine Whenever (05:36.884)
That's interesting because I didn't get that. I thought I felt like it was genuine. That's how I felt.

We Wine Whenever (05:42.645)
Well, I saw on social media people saying the same thing, like she couldn't shed a tear. And I thought they were talking about, and I know we'll get there, when she's sitting on the couch with Brynn. Because I thought the same thing then, because I felt Brynn was, we'll get there. she was, I was like, wait a minute, but she was crying on the couch with Brynn. And then the more people talked about it, I realized it was when she was talking to Uba at the wig shop about all that.

We Wine Whenever (05:52.774)
same thing.

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Yeah.

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what they were referring to.

We Wine Whenever (06:12.243)
Yeah, that scene.

We Wine Whenever (06:14.364)
To me, didn't even, yes, she didn't even oak out a tear on the couch to Brynn either. If you really watch it, not if.

We Wine Whenever (06:14.479)
and now I'm going to have to re-watch it because

We Wine Whenever (06:21.469)
No, I think she did. And that's why I was like, why are they saying that? But she did because Brynn was like...

We Wine Whenever (06:26.933)
Watch it again. Watch it again. Yeah. There we go.

We Wine Whenever (06:29.716)
I'm gonna have to rewatch both of those scenes now. So the reason it comes up is because Uba says, you know, how are things with you and Abe? And she's like, well, you know, didn't really want to talk about it. You know, I haven't told anyone. I was very surprised to hear about what it was that, you know, she was expecting to use that Bitcoin money that he sold for, you know, paying off a big chunk of her mortgage.

We Wine Whenever (06:29.993)
Alright.

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And I thought about it, you know, and then she went on to say it wasn't just that, like there was other decisions that he had done without her knowing. I don't know, like what are your thoughts? Like what if your husband did that? How would you, would you feel betrayed? Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (07:14.355)
No, I'd be, yeah, Eric and I make financial decisions together, 100%. And it's not easy and we argue, but we you know, we do it together. Yeah.

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Absolutely.

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How about you, Laura?

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Right, you make them together, yeah.

We Wine Whenever (07:28.004)
Most definitely. She said she had started like a handbag business and then decided it wasn't for her. And then I think that's what he was saying. Some of what he did with that Bitcoin money is some of the cleanup from that. So there's a couple of different ways to look at it. Is this something that really just happened now? Is this something that happened in the past and the producers are just using it?

We Wine Whenever (07:40.105)
the debt.

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you know, or is it a situation where she's always grown up with so much money that she really didn't even bother to check? Maybe she's like checked out of the financial end of it and kind of just spent her money and left it to him. And he's kind of sitting there like, you know, I kind of felt bad for the guy. You know, he's not in her league. He never was. He knew he was never going to be. And he was trying to keep up with Jones's. And I don't know.

We Wine Whenever (08:23.003)
I 100 % agree and I have that written down. He's basically like a Joe Judeo, Judeo where he's trying to keep up this lifestyle for her that she's not, mean, not that I'm just saying, I think that's what Joe did, but I think just what Lori said, she was born and lived a certain lifestyle, clearly her father provided well for her and.

We Wine Whenever (08:43.902)
Mm-hmm.

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Now this guy feels pressured to do the same. mean, he's an attorney in New York City, so he can't do too bad, but the pressure's on. mean, to live in New York City anywhere is not cheap, and they're trying to keep up a lifestyle now.

We Wine Whenever (09:01.522)
No, I agree. I mean, actually, he even says it when they go and they sit down and they, you know, they talk about it at the restaurant. You know, she says that, you know, we joked about them when we got married, like we didn't even really know each other. And she's like, well, I guess we're getting to know each other now.

We Wine Whenever (09:16.873)
I wonder why, did they ever say why they got married so quick?

We Wine Whenever (09:20.468)
They didn't say, they didn't say. And then she went on to say, you know, like, I didn't even really want to get married. I was like, jetting off to here, jetting off there. And she's like, I didn't even have to sleep with people. He's like, yeah, I know. Like that's.

We Wine Whenever (09:32.733)
Yeah, but did you see the way he looked at her when she said that?

We Wine Whenever (09:35.22)
Well, because she shouldn't have that on camera, you know?

We Wine Whenever (09:37.232)
No, was douchey.

We Wine Whenever (09:37.237)
She shouldn't have said it on camera, but he kind of gave her a look like, yeah, right. you know what I'm saying?

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Yeah.

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Yeah. And yeah. And then he does say, listen, this is why I feel so insecure. Like this is, you know, I'm trying to exactly what you said, provide for you the life that you're accustomed to. And, you know, it's not that easy. And I get that. But she also said that he had actually sold that Bitcoin a couple of years prior and she didn't realize it. So it did. It's just when she realized what had happened. So it's.

I think you're right. think she wasn't handling the finances and all of a sudden she saw like Bitcoin was exploding. She's like, we have all that Bitcoin. Let me see where it's at. Maybe we could use that money. And then it was gone. you know, I could, you know, imagine her surprise, you know.

We Wine Whenever (10:28.927)
Yeah.

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I just thought she was super bitchy, super caring about it. Like, I just thought that was really rude to just behave like that towards your husband in public. Like, you know, he was on the fucking naughty list and he better get, no, no. It's just, I thought it was wrong.

We Wine Whenever (10:49.811)
Yeah, I agree. I agree. I don't know if I would have had that conversation on camera, by the way.

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No.

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Yeah, I mean, I don't know. Then we see Psy and Jenna, they meet up for lunch and Psy is talking about her daughter London wanting to go to LaGuardia for ballet. And Jenna's talking about her son, you know, getting ready to go off to college and you know, he's getting older. Psy also goes on to say that she feels like she's in a really good place with Jenna. And you know, she also

wanted to rehash what was discussed at the party, you know, about what she said, how she didn't like Jenna, because Brynn told her that, but then Jenna explained, listen, it wasn't just Brynn. She wasn't the only one who told me that, you know, you didn't like me. If this is going to be one of those things that they just keep bringing up over and over and over again, like, I, yeah, I do hope that that's not what's going to happen.

We Wine Whenever (11:50.313)
Let's really hope not.

Sigh is basically making yourself look like a victim right now. Like you came in real hot last year. You definitely said things about Jenna you probably shouldn't have said. Now you're getting called out on it. You're not a victim. I'm sorry you're going through that and I'm glad you had a come to Jesus moment and now you're all Zen. But you did do what these people said you did. So you have to, you know, own it.

We Wine Whenever (12:07.968)
No, she's definitely not.

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Now, she reminds me of like one of those people that like, she's like the girl who quit smoking and like right away, bitches about other people who are doing it and expects everybody to put their cigarette out right away when she comes around. Like she's just, okay, great. You've gone to like, you know, a couple sessions of therapy. no.

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Yes. Yes.

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I totally agree.

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So then, but the interesting thing about this is, so Sai was upset because Bryn threw her under the bus. And again, Bryn threw Sai under the bus to Uba as well. So it's a pattern, right? Like that's what she's doing. So I think Sai is like, listen, you know, I need to maybe reevaluate this because this isn't working, you know?

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Yeah.

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Well, I think that they're all realizing that Brynn's not trustworthy. And when I say not trustworthy, she's gonna twist things to make a story more salacious, to make it more funny, like to get her some attention. That's what she's gonna do. But to me, that's a dangerous person. I, like the truth to me, like if I lose your trust even a little bit, that's it.

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Yeah. Yes. Yes.

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Yeah, I agree.

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And I think all of them are realizing that.

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I agree.

We Wine Whenever (13:54.032)
Well, Brynn said it herself, that she's like carbon monoxide.

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Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (14:01.062)
There was a quote that she made, you know.

We Wine Whenever (14:01.625)
Yes, and Erin brought that up, that she's texted that about the carbon monoxide, like silent and deadly and, you know, it's not a good look. Let's just put it that way.

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Yeah.

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Well, when she feels, you know, when she feels, you know.

when she's upset or whatever, she feels, she threatens people. Like that's how she reacts. But like again, I think that's just from her, I think she needs a lot of therapy. I think that's just from her upbringing. know, she just is so craving of attention and will get it any way that she can.

We Wine Whenever (14:25.8)
Right.

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Yeah.

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Right. And you know, I was thinking about this. She was so upset with Erin for what Erin didn't say on Jeff Lewis. Cause let's face it, she didn't say it. If you don't want people questioning what you do for a living, be forthcoming about what you do for a living. Show what you do for a living on the reality show that you were on. And if you don't want people

We Wine Whenever (14:51.397)
She didn't.

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thinking that you're this over sexual person, stop being over sexual in every opportunity that arises for you. You flirt with everybody's husband. Honestly, she presents herself as a very overly sexual person. So it's not way off the charts that Jeff Lewis would ask that question because that's a question Jeff Lewis would ask. And Erin never said yes. And she clearly said,

We Wine Whenever (15:23.29)
That's true.

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Right.

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No.

We Wine Whenever (15:40.889)
Right. You're absolutely right. 100%. Then we see Raquel. She's talking to her daughter, or Elle. Elle is 14, and Elle needs to come up with a recipe for school. So they're looking in a book, but then they find out that she probably didn't write the recipe down. She made it up, and it's some Connecticut pasta. I was like, OK. And her son, Cory, is sitting there.

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I

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Sound good.

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It does sound good.

We Wine Whenever (16:10.59)
He was set. He's 17 years old. And then we see Mel with the dogs. This whole thing with the dogs was a little crazy, right?

We Wine Whenever (16:20.818)
Tortured, tortured dog. Tortured, that dog looked tortured. But wait, I just wanna hop back. I wanna hop back one second, because I just wanna give kudos to my girl, Jenna Fucking Lyons, because when she was with Psy, and she said that...

We Wine Whenever (16:20.935)
I acupuncture for your dog?

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Yeah.

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That dog spoiled AF.

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Mm-hmm. Okay.

We Wine Whenever (16:41.41)
she said back to Sai, well I was soft to you when you were talking shit about me because Jana said to her, you know, I think the only way you're to be able to really approach Brynn is from like a place of love and not this like hardcore Sai and so I was like well why should I do that? Jana was like well basically because I did it for you so but I thought that was great I was like clap

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Yeah, combative.

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Yes.

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You're right. Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (17:08.36)
No, that was. That was awesome. I agree with you.

so Mel is a forensic neuropsychologist. I have no idea what that is. Okay.

We Wine Whenever (17:19.625)
Me neither.

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I don't know, but I know that she needs to stop practicing whatever it is she does for a living on her dog.

We Wine Whenever (17:22.719)
Doop, not a clue. Sounds really important though.

We Wine Whenever (17:32.362)
Well, there's more than one dog there. Isn't there like three of them? Or four of them? There's a lot of dogs there.

We Wine Whenever (17:35.746)
I don't know, but the one was a mess.

We Wine Whenever (17:36.713)
Well, my favorite part was when I think one of them said the dog gained weight. Raquel said the dog gained weight and Mel said, it's just a bad angle. I thought that's what I just said about a picture of me from the wedding. She said it's a bad angle for the dog.

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Ha

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And then she was saying how the dog was, you know, they just gave it made the dog steak and everything. then for them, like, let's go get Chipotle. know, crazy.

We Wine Whenever (17:57.536)
I love that.

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That is hysterical.

We Wine Whenever (18:09.885)
Yeah. The kids are like, what are we eating?

We Wine Whenever (18:09.941)
I know you're not right exactly. Yeah. Well, the dog's eating steak. So then Erin goes over to Brynn's house to talk and she has to walk up the five flights of stairs because the elevator's not working.

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Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

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I don't buy.

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Now

Well, but it wasn't working. Remember the couch that couldn't be delivered because it was too big? It wouldn't get up.

We Wine Whenever (18:35.9)
Well, I don't know if you can put a couch in it. I don't know if they have like an elevator big enough for a couch. I don't, you know, but I don't know.

We Wine Whenever (18:41.95)
that's right. Well.

But the elevator's been broken for a little bit.

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Okay, it has been. And so she comes in and, you know, Brynn says, I like your hair. And, you know, Aaron's like, listen, like we need to, you know, we need to fix this. And you tried to mess up my friendship with Jenna and Brynn was like, yeah, and like,

We Wine Whenever (19:10.997)
thought she was a little bit of an asshole during this.

We Wine Whenever (19:13.169)
I did too. I did too.

We Wine Whenever (19:13.714)
She She was absolutely emotionless. She opened the door and then went and sat on the couch. She opened the door and went on her phone. She was a complete a-hole and just so absolutely emotionless that it was quite frightening.

We Wine Whenever (19:16.149)
She barely looked up when she walked in the door. Yeah.

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Yep. Yep.

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and went on her phone.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Right.

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It was very passive aggressive, the whole interaction to be quite, that's how I felt it like it was. And, you know, she's like, listen, you know, I didn't, I didn't do that. Jenna said to me, like, did you, you know, did you forgive Erin? And she said, yeah. And she's like, well, I'm surprised. Like, so then she felt bad that she, like she forgave her so soon. I think that's made up. I think you're just making it up. You know?

We Wine Whenever (19:40.102)
Yes.

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Yeah.

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Right.

We Wine Whenever (20:07.475)
I totally agree. I totally agree. I don't think Jenna would have that reaction. Because she didn't have that reaction with Sy, like Lori said, she told Sy, like, you need to be softer, you need to, so why would she then turn around and tell Brynn, you shouldn't, wow, that was quick, you forgave her so fast. Forgive her for what? She didn't do anything wrong. She didn't say anything. She didn't say what you're saying she said. So why, like, I don't think Jenna said that either.

We Wine Whenever (20:18.458)
Right, right.

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Nope.

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Right, exactly.

We Wine Whenever (20:34.309)
Yeah, so I guess they, you know, they kind of hug it out. They, they whatever they decide to forgive each other. And, Erin tells her that she really needs her support right now of what she's going through with her mom. I thought she was really crying, but I'm going to have to rewatch it now that Lori says no.

We Wine Whenever (20:53.339)
I thought Erin was really crying and I actually have written down like Brynn didn't even go to hug her or console her or anything. She just sat there stone-faced. Nothing.

We Wine Whenever (20:59.642)
Nothing.

We Wine Whenever (21:02.393)
Yeah, yeah. I mean, even when like it was over and then they go in the kitchen and she asks her if she wants a drink and she says, yeah, if you're having some, she's like, I want to see, you know, I to see sugar. I want to see the puppy. Brynn's like, no, I'm punishing you. Like the puppy's not here and I gave you tap water.

We Wine Whenever (21:23.869)
And by the way, how about when Brynn said, can I take care of your husband for you?

We Wine Whenever (21:29.144)
Yes! Exactly! Yes! Yes, yes. But...

We Wine Whenever (21:31.271)
It's things like that, Brynn.

We Wine Whenever (21:34.63)
Yeah, was very, very juvenile, very like high school, like, no, you can't eat my dog. Stop it. How old are you?

We Wine Whenever (21:34.749)
It's things like that.

We Wine Whenever (21:41.991)
Yeah, like in that moment, like sometimes there's times for those things, but this wasn't it.

We Wine Whenever (21:49.264)
And then even when she called her Staten Island, like again, passive aggressive, like.

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Yeah, and don't be, don't be, do not.

Fuck with Staten Island!

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So I don't know if you saw, did you see Erin on Watch What Happens Live?

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All right.

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I didn't watch it yet. I have that one to watch and then who was on after Salt Lake? Mary. I didn't watch that either yet.

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Mary, I didn't watch Mary yet. But one of the tweets was, Andy said there was a lot of tweets for Erin from Staten Island saying what's, and she's like, listen, there's nothing wrong with Staten Island. I just don't live in Staten Island. didn't grow up there. But the thing is, Brynn was using it as shade. Erin really wasn't using it as shade. Right, right.

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I watch that.

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I totally agree. was the one who was putting a negative tone to Staten Island, not Erin. She just said, don't call me Staten Island, I was born and raised in Manhattan. I get that. I mean, don't call me Tom's River, I was born and raised in Brick. There's nothing wrong with Tom's River, I just live in Brick and grew up here. Nothing wrong with Tom's River.

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connotation on it.

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Exactly, but Aaron's-

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Yeah, no, I did too, but I'm like...

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No, nothing's wrong with Tom's River. And then, you know, the puppy, you know, she held the puppy away. She's so stupid. Next scene we see is Beckett and Jenna and Beckett's girlfriend and Jenna's assistant. And they're all going to rock climbing? What is it? I don't know. Indoor rock climbing. Yeah.

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Yeah. Yeah, welcome. No, I would do it though.

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Rock climbing, have either of you ever done that?

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No.

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I would try. I would probably be terrified like Jenna, but I would try. There's a place right in Brick we should go to it.

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I would say that. Yeah.

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Yeah, let's go!

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I'll go take pictures. I'm not breaking a nail. Sorry, I'm not breaking a nail.

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I know, I know, I know. I still want to try it though.

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All right, like I said, I'll go. I don't know if I'm gonna try it, but I'll participate. Listen, I thought she did an amazing job to be quite honest with you. I was surprised, I mean, she is very tall, so she's got a lot of ability to grab high things, but I was very impressed with how well she did. She was talking about, I really like this too, that she's really encouraging her son.

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I feel like there's a hair on my microphone and I can see it.

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Yeah, yeah.

Me too.

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to go away, not to be close to home. And as a mom, know, like that's, can't imagine, but she wants him to find his independence and to learn even though she's terrified that he may never come home like she did. I give her lot of credit for that. really do because it's hard to, yeah, it's hard to let your kids fly, right? And then we see her car.

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me neither.

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I do, because I was the opposite.

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Yeah, for sure.

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arrives.

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214k.

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Yes, her 2024 Bentley flying spur. It's a hybrid though. I don't know. Does she have a place to charge it at her place in New York? I hope so. the hybrids you don't need to actually. That's the beauty of the hybrid. You don't need it with the hybrid. Yeah. No, no, no. The gas charges it. Like you use the gas because Bill had the Prius.

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I doubt it.

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you could just, you put gas in it and then get yourself to a charging station.

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Well, this is

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Right.

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And it was a hybrid. your first like 20 miles or whatever is electric power and then it switches over to gas. So it automatically, as you use it, it charges itself up.

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I didn't realize that. Okay.

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So with that Bentley, I just want to put this out there. First of all, that car makes no sense for the city. mean, if keeping it in Hamptons, that's one thing, because the garage costs alone. know, not that she's, I mean, she's probably worth like five mil. I looked it up. And it doesn't make sense. So I don't know whether it's her flexing.

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after the whole money talk or if it's a production deal but to me there's something like snow jiving with the bend

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I think you're right. I think that she is flexing after the comment about money issues. Because...

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Or is it a production thing? is... Or did Bentley say to Bravo? Yeah, Bentley could have said to Bravo, hey, look, you know, I don't know, but it was just...

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Or maybe it's Bentley could be sponsoring her.

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Yeah. Yep. Yeah. Cause a car like that does not make sense in the city.

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I guess the next scene we kind of talked about was the Aaron and Abe, go out and they talk about it. The only thing we didn't really mention is that we find out that Aaron is going to be hosting the girls again in the Hamptons. And we know how well that went last time.

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Yeah. Yeah. It was great.

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And she also says that she's remodeling her kitchen and is not sure if it's going to be done by then. So this sounds like a recipe for disaster, if you want my opinion.

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What are you doing?

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Yeah.

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Maybe that's just what production wants.

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Yeah.

I think it is.

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Could be.

All right, so who.

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And then we see Uber goes, go ahead.

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I'm sorry. So I just want to know, we'll talk about it when we get to it, but I just want to know now, has anybody here ever been in a helicopter?

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No, I would never.

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Wendy?

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I just did very recently, just before Bill retired. I went up in the helicopter and yes, yes, I did. I did like it, yeah, yeah. It wasn't as fancy as that helicopter that they were in.

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you did. good. Did you like it?

It's awesome.

No, no, but yeah. Okay, good. All right, go ahead, Wendy. I'm sorry. yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I was in one in nice one like that in Maui in Hawaii. And then I was just in one in South Carolina. And I was somewhere else too. But I like a helicopter.

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Have you been in one? Have you been, you have? Where did you go?

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No, I wouldn't know.

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Mm-hmm.

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Nice.

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No, I'm scared. I haven't been on a plane since I was pregnant with Joe.

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Really? Because you're afraid?

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I've

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I do not like to fly. I'm very afraid. Like need a half of a Valium to fly. Or, I guess a Xanax now. But I did split a half of a Valium on the way home from California when I was in my early 20s with my mom. That was a long flight, man. Only a half, only a half. But now I do not like to fly. We drive.

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Mmm.

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No, I like, mean, I don't mind flying. I like the convenience of it. I don't. The driving thing, I'm over it. We drove for so many years back and forth to Florida that I just, yeah, I'm done.

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Mm-hmm.

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Yeah.

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So we see Uba shopping for the Hamptons and Psy meets up with her and they're trying on clothes. And then the topic of the hard nipple bra comes up. I want to know your thoughts on that. So I guess Skims makes a bra that's got a hard nipple. Would you wear one?

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Stop it.

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Stop it.

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I don't need to wear one. Let me just put that out there. If I want hard nipples, like they're on command, but it's not my look, but I don't, you know, it's kind of like smoking weed. It's not my gig, but have at it. There's nothing wrong with it. You do you. I'd rather have a glass of wine, just my gig. I'd rather have flat nipples. But if you want the hard ones.

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Yes. Flat nipples are mine. Go ahead. I think it's a bunch of foolishness.

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You go right ahead. You smoke your weed with your hard nipples. I'm going to be over here with my flat nipples and my wine.

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huh.

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You make a... a line.

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Listen, Uba said, Uba's like, no, I don't want a hard nipple bra. then Sai's like, well, I think it's sexy. I, no. I mean, maybe if you're in your 20s, but again, I mean, why? I don't know.

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Because it makes you look like you're excited. So guys like that. Guys like it when you look excited. Because they think it has something to do with them. Exactly.

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Okay.

And then, yeah, it's always about them, right? Then, who was talking about Oliver, and he turned down a job for her, which, yeah, I thought that was very interesting. And I guess I don't, I remember vaguely last season, something happened with like a flood or something, I guess she's still dealing with that, because she was talking about the water damage.

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That was interesting.

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Yeah.

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Uber. Yeah.

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Yeah, I mean, this has been a long time now.

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Yeah. She must be on like the street level, right? If she's... Well, I guess not necessarily.

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You can have somebody above you, floods into you, you know? Yeah.

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Yeah, I guess not necessarily because a flood can come from anywhere.

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Yeah, but we kind of talked about this too last week. We've never seen where Uber lives. Like we've never seen her place. So maybe we'll get to see Oliver's place in Connecticut. that'd have to be a road trip. So then they show up at the helicopter place and Bryn being Bryn has to change the sign, cause she's the first one to arrive, that it says, let's blade skanks.

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No. No.

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Yeah.

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Mm-hmm.

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Why? Why? Just why.

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The girl's face that works there. The girl's face that works there was great. She was like, okay.

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So it's Brynn taking the helicopter, Rebecca and Jessel. And they're waiting for Jenna to show up. And then they FaceTime Jenna and she's driving and they're like, she's like, I didn't think I had to call you, but.

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Now, don't get me wrong, when you take a helicopter, isn't everything all about weight distribution?

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Yes, but a helicopter that size, they wouldn't be, yeah. I think like that was probably like a 10 person helicopter and maybe there was gonna be five on it. Like, yeah.

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Yes. Can handle.

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Okay.

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That would, yeah.

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Okay, so they had plenty of weight to spare.

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Yes.

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Yes. Yes. And then she said, well, Raquel's driving too and nobody knew that either. So if they didn't talk to Jenna, they would have been, you know, which is a little crazy. Yeah.

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Got it. Got it.

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Yeah, that's ridiculous. That was ridiculous. And listen, I would have been the first one to be like, I'm driving, I'm scared of helicopters. Because they said, Si said, if it's cloudy, I'm not going up.

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Right.

Right. And she'd already said that she was going to drive with Uber because she didn't want Uber driving by herself.

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Yeah, and it was cloud.

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Right. Right. Right.

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And when Jessel shows up with her outfit, I did think her outfit was fabulous. The navy blue and the long cape kind of thing. And then she goes.

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It was, and most importantly, other than her shoes, it looked comfortable.

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Yes, it did look comfortable. It did. But then, yeah, yeah. But then she goes out and the blades from the helicopter and all the wind and she's just like, yes, it's funny. It's just funny. And then they're sitting on the helicopter and Brynn says to Rebecca, if people ask us about the Scientology stuff, what do you want us to say?

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Not her shoes, but you're sitting, so I get it.

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you.

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Tripping.

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I think she asked that because it had just come out. I remember when it came out, it had just come out online and they were filming.

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Yeah. And she says no comment. And Rebecca said, you should read the text message I just got from the Daily Mail saying that they're going to run a story. You know, what do you, you know, what do you want to say about it? And

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Brynn says, I'm really sorry. Like, I'm sorry that you're getting this. I'm sorry that, you know, this has become news, right? But then she says, I don't think that saying no comment really works for me because I'm a publicist. Like, you got to say something else.

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Who said they're a publicist? so was that her job?

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Brynn?

Well, she, mean, last season she did say she was kind of like a brand ambassador, which is, right, no, but I mean, I think she does kind of rep certain, we don't know exactly, but she did say that she was a publicist. And Rebecca says, well, then tell them that they can read about Scientology.

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Yeah, that I remember, which I mean, so is Lindsay from Summer House now, so.

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actually very surprised at Bravo for making this a thing. I know Scientology is very controversial.

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Who is my phone ringing? have it on do not disturb.

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I don't know, but the timing's weird. We get it.

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I don't know who's calling you.

Who's calling you, Wendy? I think it's hysterical.

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my son. My son.

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Mm-hmm.

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It says do not disturb on.

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Maybe he, cause you can hit like retry call even though do not disturb is on.

You can do that. Yeah. Like if I send a text, Joe always has his off and, and Laurieann always has her, her's off. So I mean, you know, it'll say like,

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You can?

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Look at that. Look at the things we learned.

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interesting. that he must... All right, well, I just put it on silent now and I did not answer it. Do not interrupt my podcast.

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I'm pretty sure.

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That's right. But I'm kind of surprised that they're making this an issue. And I know Scientology is controversial and I know the whole Danny Masterson, like, but I mean, listen, I'm Catholic, like there's controversial things in the Catholic religion as well. So why is her being a Scientologist a thing? We don't really hear about religion a lot on Howe's Wives, certain ones, certain ones, but.

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right talking about very important things.

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you

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But is Bravo making it a thing or is the public making it a thing?

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I'm surprised that Bravo is even entertaining like them having this conversation. mean

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Well, I guess if it's out there, you gotta say something.

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Right.

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Cause you know production was like, have to ask, you have to ask Raquel how she wants you to respond. Blah, blah. Or Rebecca, Rebecca, I'm sorry.

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Yeah, but I don't, I mean, I don't think, this is my thought about this and I don't know, one of the, it might've even been Margaret's, one of the housewives said this and I agree with this. So if there's an issue that's going on and you don't want to really give it any light, just let it play itself out. Don't say anything about it. Cause it will eventually go away. But as soon as you talk about it, it is not going away. As soon as you give it attention and put light on it,

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Right. Right.

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it is not going to go away. So even if it was out in the press, by the time this was gonna air, it would have gone away.

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Mm. Okay, yeah.

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That's what I mean. So why are they having that conversation?

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you know

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I agree with you. think Bravo screwed up with this one. I don't think that they should have. I really don't because it

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No, because it shone a bad light on it.

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Yeah, I agree.

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And what Jenna said is very accurate. Every religion has extremists and coverups. And she's not wrong.

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Mm-hmm. No, she's not.

And even the question that they ask them all in the confessional, like, why are you doing that? That's why she answered that, because they asked her, do you want to become a Scientologist? No, I have my own religion. They are making a thing of it.

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Right.

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Right.

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Yeah, 100%.

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So, I mean, that was basically it. Like I said, did watch a little bit of... I did actually watch all of Watch What Happened live. Erin was on, and Andy did start with giving condolences for the passing of her dad. It was just two weeks ago. And her mom was there in the audience, and a bunch of breast cancer survivors were there. And Erin was wearing a beautiful pink suit, and Andy had pink on to support it.

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That's so nice.

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And she was there with Jake Shears who had this fabulous sequins outfit and he had a pink ribbon on. I'd never heard of him before, but he sounds very accomplished.

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I never heard of him. Who is he?

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You'll never hear from me.

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He's like, I didn't write it down, but he's like done work with Elton John. He's got something on Broadway. It's a musical about Tammy Faye Baker. Yeah, like he's got, yeah, he's done quite a bit of stuff. So I'm gonna have to look him up, because I feel like I should have known who he was and I never heard of him.

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wow.

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Yeah. Hey, go ahead.

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So I thought it was awesome how Jessel at the end said, my cooch is numb. I need to pee and puke. Do you hear her say that? She said, my cooch is numb. Yeah, my cooch is numb. I need to pee and puke. She's so high maintenance.

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didn't even hear that. I think that's great too.

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I didn't hear her say the cooch is numb, but I did hear her say how much longer I need to pee and puke.

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yeah.

Mm hmm. Yeah.

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That's great. I wonder how long that ride was from New York City to the Hamptons. Had to be what, a half hour maybe?

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I don't think it's wrong.

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Well, I think they said it's another 30 minutes. So, I mean, maybe that's all it was is 30 minutes.

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If that is.

so maybe, yeah, maybe like 40 minutes. And yeah, and yeah, yeah, yeah. And what about Uba's, Uba's hairdo in that one confessional? Where is she going with that Suzy Orman wig? It was bad. It was so bad. So bad. So bad. Did not like that. And she...

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Maybe 40, 45, yeah. I mean, that does beat sitting in traffic for four hours if it's in the season, but yeah.

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Yes, I was not a fan.

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I didn't really love Sai's hair either at the store with Uba.

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No, like a mop. Nope. Nope.

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Yeah, I didn't like size hair either in the store.

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And Uba is stunningly beautiful. So I don't know where she was going with that wig, it was like, given like, Hello Dolly, it was just not, it's not good.

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Yes.

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Yes, it was.

I

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I don't have anything else for New York, do you guys?

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you

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I don't, but did you see that Lydia from the OC? Her mom passed away.

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no, I did not see that. that's sad.

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I thought that was so sad. They're so close. I just, it's so weird. I just recently listened to a podcast behind the velvet rope of them two. And it was, I want to say it was from a couple of years ago. And I want to say it was from right after Lydia rejoined the show. Remember she came back for one season and she didn't hit it off with Shannon right away. And it was then.

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Yes.

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But I felt so bad when I read that because her mom's, you know, I don't know what happened. I don't know how she passed, but they were just very close. They were like best friends. They lived across the street from each other.

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I don't know that's sad.

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It ain't easy, girls.

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Hmm. I know you know. Yeah.

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No.

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and easy.

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All right, so.

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