Basic Bitch Brawl

 Basic Bitch Brawl

This episode of RHONY Season 15, Episode 5, titled "A Shot Mess-cal," is packed with drama, light-hearted banter, and some serious discussions as the ladies prepare for Erin’s Cinco De Mayo Mescalune Party. Here’s a breakdown of the key moments and potential podcast title ideas:

Episode Summary:

• Pedicures and Parties: Ubah and Sai bond over pedicures while Erin preps for her Cinco de Mayo Mescalune party, expressing relief that her husband Abe reached out to Jenna, showing he cares about her relationships.
• Family Ties and Therapy: Jessel confides in her mom about her hopes for a baby girl and the communication struggles in her marriage. She and Pavitt discuss seeing a therapist, though Pavitt remains dismissive.
• New Ventures and Old Gossip: Brynn works on a new dating app and gets advice from her brother about handling her relationships with the other ladies. Meanwhile, Ubah, Sai, and Racquel share news of Jenna’s engagement, sparking reflections on secrets and relationships.
• Cinco de Mayo Chaos: At Erin’s crowded party, tensions escalate over casual comments and side-eye exchanges. Brynn flirts with Erin's dad, Jenna insists on a proper hug with Erin, and Jessel playfully complains about the smell of onions. Arguments over basic etiquette, “basic bitch” labels, and perceived disses spark a few heated exchanges before cooling off with some humor.

Takeaways

Mezcal is a type of tequila, often considered cleaner.
Character dynamics can shift dramatically from season to season.
Support from family can alleviate stress for new parents.
Business ventures can complicate personal relationships.
Cultural references play a significant role in the narrative.
The importance of communication in relationships is highlighted.
Personal growth is often tied to public perception.
Dinner conversations can reveal deeper issues.
Coaching is becoming a popular concept in various fields.
Humor is a key element in discussing serious topics. Navigating personal choices can lead to complex relationships.
Handling sensitive topics with grace is commendable.
Valentine's Day is viewed as a superficial holiday by some.
Art should be appreciated beyond the artist's identity.
Acceptance in families is crucial for healthy relationships.
Love should transcend societal norms and prejudices.
Social gatherings can reveal underlying interpersonal conflicts.
Communication is key in resolving misunderstandings.
Art can provoke discussions about identity and perception.
Personal experiences shape our views on acceptance and love. Brynn's behavior is a significant source of drama.
Accountability among friends is crucial to resolving conflicts.
Inappropriate behavior can tarnish reputations in professional settings.
Sexual innuendos can lead to misunderstandings in public perception.
Emotional maturity is essential for personal growth and relationships.
Reboots of reality shows often face criticism from fans.
AI-generated content can lack authenticity and accuracy.
Maintaining a positive mindset is important for personal well-being.
The hosts express a desire to return to fun segments like 'would you rathers.'
Quotes can inspire and motivate, even in casual conversations.

Transcript

We Wine Whenever (00:00.843)
Hi, welcome to We Wine Whenever. I'm Wendy.

Kelli (00:03.608)
I'm Kelly.

Lori (00:04.521)
And I'm Lori.

We Wine Whenever (00:05.943)
We are talking about Real Housewives of New York, season 15, episode number five. A Shot Mezcal is the title of this one. I don't know. I didn't really like that title.

Lori (00:18.154)
no.

Kelli (00:20.515)
What is mezcal? Is that tequila?

We Wine Whenever (00:23.724)
So it's a type of tequila. It's made with, I don't know. Listen, it's supposed to be cleaner than tequila or like better for you. It is a type of tequila.

Lori (00:37.035)
something.

Kelli (00:39.013)
Okay. And they had it in Mexico and they wanted to bring it to the states.

We Wine Whenever (00:43.219)
Right. So she made her, she branded her own.

Lori (00:44.161)
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. According to Aaron.

Kelli (00:49.401)
Does Lisa Barlow know this? No, I'm only kidding.

Lori (00:51.551)
Yeah. No, that she wanted to introduce it to the United States, but I think that's BS. think everybody knew about him scowling before Aaron. So whatever.

We Wine Whenever (00:51.68)
Yeah, probably not.

Kelli (01:03.551)
I personally didn't, but I'm not a tequila connoisseur. I like it, but I'm not a connoisseur knowing who brought what, where, when.

Lori (01:05.995)
Yeah.

Lori (01:14.561)
Yeah. know, when she was talking about it, when she was talking about it, she was saying how her house manager brought it to her attention. And I was like, you have a house manager in Mexico? Okay. Very nice.

We Wine Whenever (01:15.703)
So, F, good.

Kelli (01:29.198)
Yeah.

Well, here's the thing, and we've learned this from the housewives, when you go on vacation to Mexico and other places and you get a house and don't stay in a hotel, there's typically a house manager there.

Lori (01:50.131)
okay. I was just thinking it was some bougie shit.

We Wine Whenever (01:50.134)
Yes.

Kelli (01:51.939)
We've learned this through the Housewives. I've personally never vacationed where there's a house manager. So I'm basing this all on my Housewives knowledge, which is pretty good. It's very extensive. I've done the research, OC Season 1, 2006.

Lori (01:57.941)
No.

We Wine Whenever (01:58.081)
No, me neither.

Yes. Extensive.

Lori (02:01.345)
Okay.

Okay, I gotcha. I gotcha, I gotcha.

We Wine Whenever (02:11.765)
Okay, so we start out with Uba and Sai. They're getting pedicures together. And I like those two together. I like Uba and Sai together.

Kelli (02:21.303)
I really like Sigh this season and I'm so glad because I really didn't last season. But it just goes to show you that a housewife can have a great season and then a not so great season and it's also somebody's perception and feelings towards them and you know.

We Wine Whenever (02:35.701)
It's so true. You're only as good as your last episode. It's not even season in this world, right? I mean, that's like an old sales analogy. You're only as good as your last sale. Show me what you got today because it doesn't matter what you did yesterday. Yeah, yeah, which is tough.

Kelli (02:41.55)
Yes.

Lori (02:42.326)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (02:48.217)
Yeah.

Kelli (02:51.725)
Right, right, you just gotta bring it every day, yeah.

We Wine Whenever (02:56.983)
Then we see Erin's new apartment on the Upper East Side, excuse me, Upper West Side, and she's getting bags ready for her party, her mescaloon party on Cinco de Mayo. And she's worried about the party and she's happy actually that Abe spoke to Jenna, I guess, to kind of break the ice. And you know, now she knows and she feels like Jenna cares, which I think she always did care. I think Erin was making something out of nothing.

Lori (03:24.405)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (03:24.485)
100%.

We Wine Whenever (03:25.869)
I did note that she was like a little bit stressed about getting the bags and everything ready for the party and Abe did not offer at all to help.

Lori (03:35.706)
No, no, there was no help there.

Kelli (03:36.643)
Not only did he not offer to help, he sat on her shit. She's like, you're just, you're sitting on all of my stuff.

We Wine Whenever (03:40.831)
Yeah, exactly, exactly. Then we see Jessel and her mom are getting manicures. And Jessel lets us know that whenever her mom comes to visit, she feels like a weight is lifted off of her shoulders because she has someone who's on her side and to help her out with the kids. And I can definitely see that because I don't really see her getting a lot of support for Povit. I am not liking Povit this season.

Lori (04:04.608)
new.

We Wine Whenever (04:09.674)
I'm really not.

Kelli (04:12.175)
I think Povets, like most husbands, especially when the kids are young, you know, considers it babysitting when he has the kids, you know, like she's the primary caretaker and getting his digs in, like you sleep late, you know, these are all, these are definitely all normal things, but when it's on national television and people are watching, that's hard. It is. I don't think he's acting

We Wine Whenever (04:19.01)
Yeah.

Lori (04:19.297)
Disney, Dad.

Lori (04:35.745)
It's a different story. Disney guide.

We Wine Whenever (04:38.538)
It is, it is hard.

Kelli (04:41.861)
way differently than a lot of first time fathers and new husbands. But it's just out there for the world to see for him, unfortunately.

Lori (04:51.412)
Mm-hmm.

We Wine Whenever (04:51.563)
Yeah, I think actually Jessel is being a class act about it. I mean, I think she's, you know, I think she's handling it well, in my opinion. I wouldn't be as kind of calm about it and as considerate. I would be kind of flipping out. That's how I would handle it.

Kelli (04:56.035)
Yeah.

Kelli (05:01.231)
Yeah.

Kelli (05:12.547)
We don't know if she is when the cameras go down. They could be having very different conversations when the cameras aren't on. I agree with you though, I think while the cameras are rolling, she is handling it well. I don't think I would.

We Wine Whenever (05:16.013)
I mean, yeah.

We Wine Whenever (05:23.637)
Yeah. No, I don't think I would either. And then we, yeah. And then we see Uba meets up with Raquel and Cy. And Cy brings Uba the pigeon book, which I thought was hysterical.

Lori (05:27.025)
I definitely would not.

Kelli (05:38.947)
That was funny. You know, one thing about Jessel and her mom though, when Jessel mentioned therapy, her mom was really not on board with it. And I'm sure that's a cultural thing, but I felt bad for Jessel in that moment because she obviously is recognizing that there's an issue and she's trying to fix it, but.

Lori (05:40.703)
Now,

We Wine Whenever (05:45.176)
huh. No.

Yes.

Lori (05:59.797)
Now before that...

We Wine Whenever (06:00.257)
And she just told her mom recently that she had fertility issues with the twins. it's not like she doesn't, like, I get it. I feel bad for, I really do feel bad for Jessel because she, I feel like she's alone, you know, even though, yeah, I do. I feel like she needs more support.

Kelli (06:06.094)
Right.

Kelli (06:13.765)
She needs more support.

Lori (06:18.301)
So even before that episode, I mean before that little shot with her and her mom, did you guys catch they did film like pigeons on the ground?

Kelli (06:29.443)
Yes. Yes.

We Wine Whenever (06:29.962)
Yes, yeah, yeah, I mean it is New York

Lori (06:30.561)
Yeah, I kept catching the little... Right, but just, they keep putting the little pigeon things in there. And there was another thing later on in the show where there was another shot that had a pigeon in it. So was like, okay, you're working the pigeons.

We Wine Whenever (06:40.087)
Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (06:45.537)
the pigeons in it. It's like when we were watching Vanderpump Rules and James was by the airport. How many times do we see the airplane, the same airplane?

Kelli (06:53.871)
my gosh, every chance they got, every chance they got, they shaded him with that airplane. It was definitely the same airplane over and over again, but they used it any chance they got.

We Wine Whenever (07:05.417)
Yes, yes. So after she, you know, she brings her the pigeon book, they're talking about the press that came out about Jenna and Cass, I guess, because they're, I mean, we knew that they were engaged. I didn't really see any press about it. Did you guys?

Kelli (07:26.647)
I remember seeing something when it came out that she was engaged, but that was it. I guess their point was she didn't really come out and tell them, but she did tell them, because then they flashed back to the Hamptons, and they were calling it a promise ring, and they were like, well, are you engaged? And she was like, yeah, it's an engagement ring. So she did own up to it, but I understand there's kids involved, and now she's a public person. I'm sure she was before in the fashion industry, but now like,

We Wine Whenever (07:30.644)
Right.

We Wine Whenever (07:44.583)
Right, right.

Lori (07:47.967)
Right, but...

Kelli (07:56.065)
in the world she's a public person because of the show.

We Wine Whenever (07:59.166)
Right.

Lori (07:59.275)
But maybe that was a lead in for Raquel's whole story.

We Wine Whenever (08:05.202)
Right. So Raquel starts talking about how her, kept it secret with her and Mel because her ex, not her ex-husband, her ex-girlfriend, they had just a bad breakup and, you know, Mel was getting a lot of heat over that, that, you know, she was the reason for the breakup. And I guess according to Raquel, that really wasn't the case, but I guess that's how it appeared to people who didn't, obviously if you don't know what's going on behind

Kelli (08:05.231)
For sure. For sure.

We Wine Whenever (08:34.682)
know, close doors, if you you see two people together and then they're not together and you see that person with somebody else, you're going to assume that that's what it was, right?

Kelli (08:44.837)
Who was she in business with, her ex-husband? Okay.

Lori (08:47.381)
Yes.

We Wine Whenever (08:48.582)
No, it was an artist. It was an artist. Matt and I looked her up.

Kelli (08:52.149)
He was her artist. He was an artist and that was her ex-husband, right?

Lori (08:55.786)
Yes.

We Wine Whenever (08:55.88)
No, no, was a she. It was a female.

We Wine Whenever (09:01.15)
Her ex-husband is one breakup and then she was involved with an artist who was a female after she got divorced.

Kelli (09:08.475)
I was so confused about that. Okay. Yeah, I thought it was her ex-husband she was in business with.

Lori (09:10.187)
The house confused. Very confused.

We Wine Whenever (09:12.222)
own

Lori (09:14.687)
Yes.

We Wine Whenever (09:15.074)
okay. No, no, no. You guys were both... Okay. No, no, no. So, yes, the ex-husband, I don't know what he did, but the ex-husband, they got divorced. Then after she got divorced from the ex-husband, she was in a relationship with somebody that she was in business with who was an artist, was a female. And they had the whole book and the whole collaboration. So yes, that was... I know, you know what? I'll be honest with you. It wasn't completely clear.

Kelli (09:42.027)
Yeah, because that story about her with the coffee book with that I thought that I thought she was talking about her ex-husband when she was saying all that

We Wine Whenever (09:45.875)
Yes, yes.

Cause she just said X. She just said X. And then like I said, Matt and I looked up her X. We looked up her ex-husband and we're like, he's not an artist. And then we looked up her ex-girlfriend and the ex-girlfriend was the artist. So yeah, it wasn't clear to be honest with you.

Lori (09:49.654)
Yeah.

Kelli (09:51.416)
Okay.

Lori (09:52.385)
you

Kelli (09:53.827)
Okay.

Kelli (10:04.546)
Got it. Okay.

Lori (10:08.011)
Well, good thing you and Matt looked it up.

Kelli (10:09.559)
Okay. Okay.

We Wine Whenever (10:14.506)
I know. I'll be honest with you. I took these notes the other day and I printed them out and I started reading them. was like, I don't really, I don't remember this. And then Matt's like, I want to finish watching New York. Can you just sit here? I was like, yeah, actually I can because I don't really remember what I just wrote about. So that's the only reason it's just fresh in my mind. So the coffee table book. she explained how they wanted to

Kelli (10:14.605)
Yes, absolutely.

Kelli (10:32.663)
Yeah. Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (10:41.404)
You know, she didn't want Mel to get slammed. They were in business together. She had the copy tape cable book coming out. You know, she was the face of it. She was the, you know, and they had to keep it on the hush hush, which makes sense. You know, that, makes perfect sense. And then we see Brynn's apartment again in Gramercy Park and she's on the phone with her brother. She's working on a new app. I didn't look up the new app and she's the creator and founder. It's called Riz, right?

Lori (11:06.101)
in.

Lori (11:11.325)
Yes, and I just have to say it's too close to it's too close to jizz. It's too close to jizz. I can't. I can't.

We Wine Whenever (11:20.444)
Well, right, Lori. Yeah, it's right. It's short for charisma. You know that.

Kelli (11:22.073)
Well we know what Riz means, it's short for Charismatic.

Lori (11:26.057)
I know, I know, I know, but the old lady in me, the Gen X, the Gen, yeah, the Gen X in me is like, mm, no. Okay, so you want some info on it?

Kelli (11:31.717)
Perilously close to Jizz though, perilously close.

We Wine Whenever (11:41.2)
Yeah, I do.

Kelli (11:41.347)
Yes. Yes.

Lori (11:42.305)
Okay. So it is considered like an AI wingman. So it's, it costs $7 a week and up, and it's the fifth most downloaded app. So when you go on it, you, AI helps you with like your responses. That's it said.

Kelli (12:03.492)
Wow.

We Wine Whenever (12:06.289)
In the world?

Lori (12:09.523)
AI helps you with like a chat GBT thing, like helps you with your responses. You can kind of hop on other people's which I, interactions, which I thought was kind of weird. So I'll keep looking into it, but it was very interesting.

We Wine Whenever (12:11.591)
Wow.

Kelli (12:28.709)
It's like a party line. Remember in the 80s when you would call up and everybody would be on a party line?

Lori (12:30.605)
Yeah, yeah, yeah, but like, right, but like chat GBT style. I don't know.

We Wine Whenever (12:38.311)
But with a group chat, like, that sounds weird.

Lori (12:40.051)
Yeah, it can be. Yeah, it's just weird.

Kelli (12:45.145)
Well, I hope she does well with it.

Lori (12:48.545)
Sure.

We Wine Whenever (12:49.304)
she does well with it too because like we said we're not really 100 % sure exactly what it is she does. I mean like you know she said she's a brand manager but we don't know. So then we see Jessel and Pavitt they go out to dinner and Jessel's letting Pavitt know that he still owes her birthday gift.

Kelli (12:58.019)
Yeah. Yeah.

Lori (12:58.953)
Yeah.

Kelli (13:07.951)
Did you see our on Watch What Happens Live? Because he still has not gotten her birthday present.

We Wine Whenever (13:11.67)
Yes, and he bought her deli flowers for Mother's Day. I was, again, I'm sitting next to Matt, I was like, what are deli flowers? Like meat shaped flowers? He's like, no, mom, flowers from the deli. I was like,

Kelli (13:15.683)
you

Kelli (13:22.851)
Yeah, like walking into 7-Eleven and buying her roses from 7-Eleven, which quite honestly, there's nothing wrong with it. It's the thought that counts. But clearly he was in that deli getting himself a sandwich and he just grabbed some flowers on his walk out.

Lori (13:23.977)
We Wine Whenever (13:31.33)
No.

Lori (13:35.039)
Yes.

We Wine Whenever (13:37.959)
Matt and I both decided we would like some prosciutto flowers. I mean, I would be into a deli flower if it was me. So listen, I mean, that's an idea for a business, a little deli flower.

Lori (13:42.107)
I'll be wait. Yeah. Yeah, I like it.

Kelli (13:44.325)
Little sharp provolone in the middle.

Lori (13:52.065)
Well done.

Kelli (13:52.261)
Well, Lori and I had a discussion last night. We're gonna order a charcuterie board from which, Cheese Witch. We're gonna have it one night while we're doing the pod and we're gonna tell everybody about it. So maybe she can make us some prosciutto flowers with a little sharp knob in the middle.

Lori (14:00.193)
She's local. She's a local girl. Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (14:10.291)
that would be great. That would be great.

Lori (14:10.537)
Yes, yes, yes, yes, I like it. I like it. So I just wanted to put it out there. This is another time where they flashback to that Carol's Buns restaurant when Pavin and Jessel get to their restaurant that Jessel selected. And again, when they flashback to that, there's a pigeon. A pigeon flies into the thing. There's a pigeon.

We Wine Whenever (14:15.567)
I like it too.

Kelli (14:27.108)
Yes.

We Wine Whenever (14:27.493)
Mm-hmm.

We Wine Whenever (14:32.187)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (14:38.033)
There was a pigeon. I have noticed all the pigeons. I mean, it is like Wendy said, it's like going to the beach at the Jersey shore and seeing seagulls. I mean, it's gonna happen.

Lori (14:41.063)
pigeon.

We Wine Whenever (14:41.145)
Yes. It's New York and seeing seagulls. Right. Right. I mean, if Uba lived at the Jersey shore, she would be calling them seagulls instead of pigeons, but she's a New Yorker, so she's calling them pigeons. If she lived in the country, she'd be calling them chickens or hens. You you pick the bird that you're around.

Lori (14:45.673)
and seen as seagulls. I know. I know.

Kelli (14:54.211)
Yes.

Lori (14:54.325)
Yes.

Kelli (14:57.156)
Right.

Lori (14:57.227)
Yes.

Yep, there we go. Yep.

Kelli (15:00.261)
Yeah.

Lori (15:03.867)
There you go, you picked the bird. That's right.

Kelli (15:03.993)
Yeah. But the pigeons carry the message.

Kelli (15:09.541)
They ordered a lot of food at this dinner, didn't they?

We Wine Whenever (15:12.396)
They did. mean, Pavett's a foodie. That's his thing. Like, he's a foodie.

Kelli (15:16.323)
Yeah, well clearly, because he couldn't carry on a conversation without taking pictures of his plate. It was like going out to dinner with Terry. You can't eat, you can't take a bite without Terry taking a picture of your food first. She's all about the presentation.

We Wine Whenever (15:20.686)
Yeah.

Terry does that?

We Wine Whenever (15:29.542)
Interesting.

Lori (15:29.675)
so funny.

We Wine Whenever (15:34.17)
Yeah, so she's trying to tell them about her meeting with her IVF coach. I honestly did not even know that was a thing. didn't know an IVF coach was a thing.

Lori (15:40.723)
I wrote that down too. I wrote that down too.

Kelli (15:42.339)
I believe there are coaches for everything now.

We Wine Whenever (15:44.419)
Yeah!

Yeah.

Lori (15:47.169)
I so.

Kelli (15:48.761)
I gotta figure out what I could be a coach of.

We Wine Whenever (15:51.198)
yeah, let me know. Let me know. Okay. And Pavit as usual is not interested. What?

Kelli (15:53.317)
I'll keep you posted, but I come up with

Lori (15:57.195)
i already know what it is

Kelli (16:00.858)
What?

Lori (16:01.569)
I already know what it is, not killing your children.

Kelli (16:06.356)
well that, yeah. And not being able to say no. Yeah. I'm crushing it at both those things.

Lori (16:07.307)
There you go.

Yeah, there you go.

We Wine Whenever (16:11.587)
You can't coach people. You cannot coach. You cannot coach people on not being able to say no.

Kelli (16:16.867)
I'm saying I can coach you on how to never be able to say no to people.

We Wine Whenever (16:19.69)
yes, yes, yes, you can. I don't think anyone wants that.

Lori (16:20.543)
Yes, yes. Wendy, that was funny.

Kelli (16:23.491)
Let me coach you on how to spread yourself so thin you think you're gonna have a nervous breakdown. Let me coach you on that.

We Wine Whenever (16:26.853)
Okay, yes. Yeah, no, needs that. Not even you. So Pavit is not interested in that discussion as usual. You know, he's too busy worried about his, you know, food. And he, you know, he even said, listen, I already made the decision, there's no baby, which I really thought was like, don't be so cut and dry. mean, you listen, you're

Lori (16:28.587)
Yes. No.

Kelli (16:32.909)
you

Kelli (16:36.367)
you

Kelli (16:40.805)
Mm-mm.

We Wine Whenever (16:55.39)
on camera. You know you're on camera. Like you can see it in her face. She wants to have a daughter and you're going to tell her no like that? Like

Lori (17:06.006)
Yeah.

Kelli (17:06.437)
And the thing is, like, I, listen, I was very blessed. I thought about getting pregnant and I literally got pregnant. So I feel for anyone who can't. But to know that you can actually choose the gender, she knows she can have a daughter. Like to me, that's amazing, amazing. So why, like, this is clearly something she's very passionate about. She's not letting it go.

We Wine Whenever (17:13.412)
Mm.

We Wine Whenever (17:22.412)
Right, right.

Kelli (17:35.193)
Like don't shut it, just don't shut it down like you did.

We Wine Whenever (17:38.444)
Yeah, I did not like the way he shut it down. I just thought it was rude. I honestly, like I said before, I think the way that she handled it was really classy because I would have I would have probably thrown something at him at that table. That's just me.

Kelli (17:50.287)
Did you think her voice sounded strained?

Lori (17:52.533)
I think she was sick.

Kelli (17:55.672)
Okay.

We Wine Whenever (17:57.189)
Yeah, I mean.

Lori (17:57.621)
think she might have had a cold. Yeah, I feel like she was sick.

Kelli (17:58.186)
Her voice sounded very strained.

We Wine Whenever (18:01.792)
Even when she's like trying to talk to him and he's like, well, let me just get a picture of those noodles. I was like, did you not just hear what she said? You want noodle pictures? Come on. That's what I would done. I would have taken the noodle and I would have freaking thrown it at him. You want noodle pictures?

Kelli (18:08.653)
I know, seriously.

Kelli (18:14.467)
Yeah.

Lori (18:19.711)
Yep. Yeah. Take it. Take a selfie.

Kelli (18:22.917)
Here's your noodle.

We Wine Whenever (18:23.817)
Yeah.

Kelli (18:27.661)
I do agree with him about Valentine's Day. I do think Valentine's Day is a bullshit holiday.

We Wine Whenever (18:31.808)
It is, it is, but still, if it's important to your significant other, then make it important. It's the little things. Yeah, yeah. And then he even says, it on the list. And then she's like, all right, so I'll make the appointment. He's like, no, I'll make the appointment. She's like, no, know. Then they're arguing over who's gonna make the appointment. He's like, no, I got it. There's no way in he made that appointment.

Kelli (18:38.499)
Yeah, he was just being very insensitive in the moment.

Kelli (18:50.541)
That was weird.

Kelli (18:58.585)
There's no way. I wonder if Andy asked her. I forgot because he didn't ask her about that.

We Wine Whenever (19:01.464)
He didn't, he didn't.

Lori (19:04.862)
And where does he think he's going to get this like discounted

Therapy session like yeah, like where's he gonna get like he's worried about the price But yet they spend all that money to send their kids to glue macaroni on a plate at preschool

We Wine Whenever (19:11.587)
Therapist?

Kelli (19:22.181)
and $900 a month on Uber. Trust me, a therapist is gonna be less than that. Well, depends on how many times you go a month.

Lori (19:26.816)
Yeah.

Right, Lani?

Kelli (19:32.781)
I do see some trouble there, but I don't wanna say that, because I like them together, but I do think that what they're showing is very authentic, where I think when Aaron films with Abe, it's very inauthentic. Yeah, like I do think that Jessel and Povit really are going through what they're going through.

We Wine Whenever (19:48.057)
Definitely.

100%, you're right.

We Wine Whenever (19:56.256)
Mm-hmm. I completely agree. Next we see Raquel and Mel, they are going to a little gallery. They're walking to go to this gallery. And there's an artist there that she happens to know. I guess his name is Quill Lemons or Lemons. I don't know how to pronounce it. I thought it was interesting to be quite honest with you.

Kelli (19:59.332)
Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (20:24.919)
the cornrow art, and then his art was like a family portrait, like him and his siblings. You know, I guess, you know, art is very subjective, you know? What is, you know, art to someone is not art to someone else.

Kelli (20:27.99)
yeah, that was interesting.

Kelli (20:44.387)
Right.

Lori (20:45.817)
In regards to that cornrow piece, I don't know why the girl that she was talking to, why did she have to say that the artist was queer? I mean, what does someone's sexual orientation have to do with their art? Like, what, I know, I was just like, I just didn't understand that.

We Wine Whenever (20:50.179)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (21:08.837)
It really doesn't.

We Wine Whenever (21:10.627)
Was it maybe the whole exhibition? It could have been the entire exhibition was of queer artists.

Kelli (21:17.221)
Yeah, like maybe that one line that she said, maybe there was a whole other conversation that surrounded that that we didn't see. So to us, sounded like that comment came out of nowhere, but there was probably a whole conversation about it.

Lori (21:17.225)
I don't think so.

We Wine Whenever (21:27.393)
Yeah.

Lori (21:28.223)
Ta-da!

Right, that it was that, right, I was thinking it was that one particular artist, the cornrow artist. I'm like, so what do you like? Okay, like, what do got to tell me that for? does that, yeah, what does that have to do with anything?

We Wine Whenever (21:34.634)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (21:41.689)
Yeah, like what does it matter? But there could have been a whole conversation going on surrounding that that we didn't hear.

Lori (21:49.642)
Baby,

We Wine Whenever (21:49.719)
Yeah, could be. mean, then they get food. Mel goes and gets food and they're sitting there and they're talking, which I thought was a little odd. The food in the gallery. Did you see the food that they picked? They got wasabi peas. They got like this weird, really weird eclectic mix of food that they're sitting eating inside the gallery at like, like picnic tables. I thought that was a little odd. I

Kelli (22:12.608)
yeah, yeah, yeah.

I've never been to a gallery, have you, Lore?

Lori (22:19.999)
Yeah, it just depends on the venue, what they have that must've just been, you know, that's just what they had. They just must have like a little cafeteria.

Kelli (22:24.962)
Yeah.

Yeah, like this might not have even been at a gallery. It could have been an art exhibit at some other venue. Right? Right.

Lori (22:33.087)
Yeah, you don't know. Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (22:33.77)
Okay, all right. just, I was thinking it's a gallery and when I think of a gallery, I think of like past hors d'oeuvres and you know, cocktails. I don't think, you know what saying?

Kelli (22:43.917)
Right, it could have been, know, think people are having weddings at very different venues now, so an art exhibit could be anywhere. Yeah.

Lori (22:49.057)
aquariums.

We Wine Whenever (22:52.448)
Yeah. Well, what about what Raquel wore to this art exhibit thing? mean, that big, puffy coat with the... I mean, that was pretty... mean, not anyone can pull that off. She could pull that off.

Lori (22:53.633)
this too.

Lori (23:05.578)
Yep.

Kelli (23:06.425)
She can definitely pull it off. She's gorgeous. She's absolutely gorgeous. Yeah, yeah. She can pull anything off that one.

We Wine Whenever (23:09.852)
She really is gorgeous. Stunning, she's stunning. She really is, she really is. So they're talking and Raquel asks Mel how she liked Jessel's birthday party. And she says, I was talking to Abe the babe. She's like, well, it was cute. She's like, well, what were you talking to him about? And she's like, well, he was trying to help us plan our engagement party. He's telling me like all the places we can go and how we can have it here. And I thought, well,

Lori (23:10.637)
literally.

Kelli (23:25.526)
Yeah, that was cute.

We Wine Whenever (23:38.665)
you know, that's pretty nice. And she's like, yeah, maybe this is like he missed his calling. Maybe this is what he should be doing. Yes. It was funny.

Kelli (23:44.515)
He should be an event planner for lesbians. That was funny.

We Wine Whenever (23:53.642)
And then they're talking about, you know, they're going to be making the announcement about their engagement. Mel asked Raquel if, you know, she's invited her mom and she's like, well, you know, her mom hasn't been to New York in 10 years since her divorce. And then we find out that her mom was really close to her son. Like she used to babysit for him. And then once she got divorced, she really kind of like,

distanced herself from her and her family, not just her, but her and her grandchildren. You know, I really can't imagine that. I can't.

Kelli (24:24.889)
Yeah, I can't even imagine.

Lori (24:26.817)
So she said it was once she started dating women. That's when her mother.

Kelli (24:33.433)
Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (24:33.76)
Well, right, right. Well, yes, exactly. So after she got divorced is when she started dating women. And that's really what, you know, she can't accept that. Which it just blows my mind that today in this day and age, like that people cannot accept that about the people that they love. It's not some stranger. This is your daughter and your grandchildren. Right, right.

Lori (24:39.68)
Right.

Lori (24:44.481)
Whatcha sad?

Kelli (24:54.2)
Ew.

Lori (24:55.339)
What's your child?

Kelli (24:58.223)
Yeah. It's very,

Lori (25:00.001)
So she said she hadn't seen her in 10 years.

We Wine Whenever (25:04.822)
Yeah.

Kelli (25:05.89)
She said she hasn't come to visit her in New York in 10 years. Hopefully she's seen her, but still, I don't get it. I don't get it at all.

We Wine Whenever (25:08.926)
in 10 years, right?

Lori (25:10.049)
Yeah.

Lori (25:14.358)
Yeah, I know, I it.

We Wine Whenever (25:17.493)
And she hasn't even invited her because she's afraid her mom won't come. So she's afraid of the disappointment and the rejection. And I get that. And that's sad.

Kelli (25:25.207)
And isn't having children like, listen, I know you two very well. I know your children. I know we all feel the same way. We just want our kids to be happy and healthy. That's it.

Lori (25:25.407)
as so.

We Wine Whenever (25:34.912)
Mm-hmm.

Lori (25:35.903)
Say it.

We Wine Whenever (25:38.399)
And not assholes. Don't have assholes. Right. Yeah.

Kelli (25:38.629)
Love who you love. Right, and not assholes. That's right, right. But love who you love. And if they love you back, as long as they're not like a criminal or somebody I have to be scared of, no. But just love who you love. I don't care about gender or color or anything. Just be happy for crying out loud. I can't believe in 2024, everybody doesn't feel this way. Yes, a function, yes, yes. Somebody who's gonna bring out a better

Lori (25:39.957)
That's it. That's it. That's it.

We Wine Whenever (25:49.556)
Right.

Right. Right.

Lori (25:58.549)
Yeah, just just being functioning person.

We Wine Whenever (26:04.062)
Yeah. Yes.

Lori (26:05.963)
set.

Kelli (26:07.673)
better side of you.

We Wine Whenever (26:09.322)
Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (26:13.61)
So then the next thing we see is the party, Aaron and Abe's party. And we find out that they are majority stakeholders in the business. they have, this party has a lot riding on it because they have every stakeholder and advisor there. And they are over capacity by 100 people. I don't know if you guys realize that that is a major thing in New York City to be over occupancy.

by 100 people. You will get shut down by the fire department so quick that you won't know what hit you.

Kelli (26:46.565)
How did they, that looked like such a small venue. How did they even have a hundred people in there to begin with?

Lori (26:52.15)
Right.

We Wine Whenever (26:52.605)
I don't know. I don't know. I was very surprised when she said that. Like, I was very surprised.

Kelli (26:58.532)
Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (27:02.076)
Uba shows up and she's wearing that scarf on her head. Now, where did she come from? Did she say where she came from?

Kelli (27:08.485)
She did say, and I forget.

We Wine Whenever (27:10.89)
Was she working or something? I think she was maybe working.

Lori (27:12.607)
You something.

Kelli (27:12.677)
She was working. She said I look like a bank teller. A meeting or something. Yeah, she came from, I think something work related.

We Wine Whenever (27:16.251)
That's right. Yeah.

Lori (27:18.987)
Yeah, several meetings, I think, yeah.

We Wine Whenever (27:21.097)
Yeah.

Kelli (27:23.333)
Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (27:23.518)
Yeah, and then she ordered a non-alcoholic drink.

We Wine Whenever (27:33.972)
What else happened?

Lori (27:35.359)
Well, I-

Kelli (27:35.682)
well they sat down and Erin told Uba that Brynn was talking smack about her.

We Wine Whenever (27:40.233)
Yes.

Lori (27:43.339)
And what was with all the weird picture taking? Like, what are you doing? What are you doing that for at an event that's your business event? And I don't get it.

We Wine Whenever (27:49.017)
my god.

We Wine Whenever (27:58.183)
I was doing it.

Kelli (27:58.263)
I don't know what you're talking about. I don't even pick that up. What were they doing?

Lori (28:02.325)
They were doing breast pics down the shirt underneath the skirt. Like, I don't know.

We Wine Whenever (28:03.763)
This is so funny.

Kelli (28:07.589)
What the fuck was I watching? Why didn't I see this?

We Wine Whenever (28:10.015)
I didn't see it the first time I watched it either. I didn't see it the first time I watched it either. I was too busy taking notes, but when I just watched it again. So Jessel comes in with the big flower dress, right? at first I liked the flower dress, but then I didn't like that her boob was the center of the flower. I thought that was a little odd. And Matt's like, no, I like that. And then she's sitting next to Sy, and Sy has a disposable camera. It's not even a regular camera. And she pulls out the front of her dress and she's taking a picture.

And then she's asking her if she has underwear on. And then she's on the floor taking pictures like up the dresses.

Kelli (28:47.791)
I don't know what I was watching, but I did not. I must have been taking notes too or zoned out at this point.

We Wine Whenever (28:49.125)
No, I missed it. I missed it too. I missed it the first time too. And I was like, what is going on? I still don't know what was going on. don't know what the, I don't know what was.

Lori (28:57.568)
huh, at a corporate event.

Kelli (29:02.085)
I think they were off somewhere at that table. I do not think, I mean, I know that they were like, cause then you see Brynn talking to Aaron's father, flirting, which have at it, may he rest in peace. But they were definitely off to the side. So hopefully these stockholders and important people that were there were not in the vicinity.

We Wine Whenever (29:14.354)
Right.

We Wine Whenever (29:18.013)
Yes.

We Wine Whenever (29:27.857)
It was weird.

Lori (29:28.193)
But the venue was so small.

Kelli (29:29.785)
That is very weird.

We Wine Whenever (29:32.467)
Yes.

Lori (29:34.367)
You know, so I just, didn't get how, what was going on with that. was like, what are you? You're not 20. What are you doing? This is like a business event and you're trying to get like crotch shots. Like, what are you doing?

Kelli (29:47.585)
Right. It's not a bachelorette party, like chill. Yeah, for sure.

We Wine Whenever (29:52.093)
Yeah, it was weird. It was weird. And then Erin's mom comes in and, you know, she's there even though she's going through chemo. She looked good. She had a little hat on. She looked cute. And Sai's happy that there's food at the event, of course. And then, like you said, Brynn is flirting with Erin's dad and she walks up to him and says, hi, daddy. I mean, she was flirting big time with him, big time. She's keeping her distance from the table because the other ladies were there. And then,

Kelli (30:20.997)
she feels guarded. Stop talking about all of them and then you don't have to be so guarded. Stop talking about all of them.

We Wine Whenever (30:22.213)
Right.

We Wine Whenever (30:25.85)
Exactly. Exactly. And then Jenna walks in and Jenna looks fabulous.

Lori (30:26.497)
Absolutely.

Kelli (30:33.605)
Jenna looked fit.

We Wine Whenever (30:35.632)
Yeah.

Lori (30:36.715)
She did, I love that outfit.

Kelli (30:37.167)
She look good.

We Wine Whenever (30:38.374)
She did, she really did.

Kelli (30:40.579)
Mm-hmm.

We Wine Whenever (30:41.874)
Yep. And she walks up to Erin and gives Erin a hug and says, no, no, this isn't a good hug. not to, you give me a real hug. And I love that she did that. I love that she did that. And then Jessel and Pabbitt show up and Jessel asks Erin if something smells. As soon as she sits down, she's like, what does that smell? it's.

Kelli (30:51.845)
That was good.

Kelli (31:02.723)
And she says to her, is that you? Did you forget to deodorant again?

Lori (31:07.157)
I mean, what is she, friends with Mary?

We Wine Whenever (31:10.878)
I

Kelli (31:11.169)
I seriously, but she kept making comments that they use natural deodorant, which by the way does not help, does not prevent you from smelling. It might be natural and you might not be having the aluminum in there, but it does not prevent you from smelling. We've tried it. It doesn't work.

We Wine Whenever (31:17.116)
I know.

We Wine Whenever (31:21.51)
No it doesn't.

We Wine Whenever (31:26.876)
Right, and then Sai's like, well, it's onions here, there's onions. She's like, yeah, that's what I smell, it's the onions. And she's like, what, I smell like onions? Like, no. So then Uba says at Jessel's party, everyone noticed Brynn and I didn't talk, because now everyone's sitting at the table. And then she gets here and she hears from Jessel and Erin that you were talking shit about me at the store, meaning Brynn.

Lori (31:27.061)
or sweating.

We Wine Whenever (31:56.237)
And Brynn is just like, and Erin and Jessel are looking at each other, but they're not really fessing up to what happened. And listen, Jessel says, it's really not that deep. Erin's like, yeah, it wasn't that deep. And then she's like, it's fine, it's fine. So she's like, all right, I'll drop it. And then Uwe picks up the water bottle and she starts drinking from the water bottle at the table. And Jessel says to her, like, we have a glass here, like, what are you doing?

Kelli (32:02.745)
Right, right.

We Wine Whenever (32:25.753)
And U was like, you know, I'm drinking water. You know, she's like, I'll drink what I want to. I'm not a basic bitch like you. And Jess was like, a basic bitch. And then it's like going back and forth and then Jenna's explaining what a basic bitch is. And then Rebecca's putting her two cents in on what a basic bitch is. And then Erin's talking about like, what a basic bitch. I'm like, how many conversations are we having with a basic bitches? I mean, it's pretty basic.

Kelli (32:53.839)
And that's not a nice thing to say to your friend. I mean, I love Uba, but I feel like she's got a lot of pent up anger and she's taking it out sometimes on the wrong people. Like I understand you being upset with Brynn because Brynn's talking mad shit, but Jessel's not and Jessel's your friend. So why are you bringing...

We Wine Whenever (33:15.258)
Right.

Well, that's what she's upset about, that Jessel didn't tell her about it. And when she shows up...

Kelli (33:23.557)
Come on, you're gonna repeat every conversation? Like maybe Jessel's got some shit going on in her life where she's not so overly concerned with this petty bullshit.

We Wine Whenever (33:34.054)
I get what she was saying though, because when she arrives at Jessel's party, as soon as Jessel sees her, she sits down next to her and says, are you and Brynn okay? And was like, yeah, we're fine. But meanwhile, Jessel has this information of the shit that Brynn was talking about her and Uba doesn't know what she's referring to. So this is what she's talking about when she keeps calling them pigeons. Like you're...

Kelli (33:54.735)
Got it.

Kelli (33:58.093)
Right, right, because somebody else is bringing the message to her.

We Wine Whenever (34:01.51)
And she's not getting the message because she doesn't know what they're talking about. Jessel was there in the conversation, which she doesn't find out until she gets to this party when Aaron says it, that she was talking mad shit about you. And I get why Uber's pissed. I do. And these women, and listen, I do like Jessel and she was a little bit harsh on her, but I think she's just annoyed already. Like stop this pettiness. if Brynn and I have a problem.

Kelli (34:10.671)
Right.

We Wine Whenever (34:27.204)
Stop you talking over here and you talking over there. Just come to me and tell me what it is and we'll work it out.

Kelli (34:32.985)
Right. But Brynn should be the one to be doing that. Yeah. Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (34:36.38)
100 % 100 % She just you know she shot the messenger there

Lori (34:39.233)
But on the other hand too, yeah, on the other hand too, I mean, that was a craft for the table. I hate to tell you, Uba, that was not your own personal craft, okay? That was for the table and that's why Jessel said something.

We Wine Whenever (34:50.108)
No, I actually wrote that down. I did write that down.

Kelli (34:50.969)
Yes!

Kelli (34:56.794)
Hey!

Kelli (35:01.999)
Was this the episode where Brynn says something about Nordstrom Rack with Rebecca? Fuck you Brynn, I shop at Nordstrom Rack, it's just fine. Now I'm gonna go out of my way to look for Rebecca Minkoff stuff.

Lori (35:05.791)
Yes.

We Wine Whenever (35:06.286)
Yes, yes it is.

Lori (35:15.403)
There you go.

We Wine Whenever (35:16.719)
Yeah, that was...

Kelli (35:17.561)
Why does she keep clowning on her for that? Brynn, do you have anything in any stores that people actually shop in? No.

We Wine Whenever (35:19.92)
I don't know.

We Wine Whenever (35:26.243)
I know, I know.

Kelli (35:28.345)
Like stop with the Nordstrom Rack bullshit.

Lori (35:33.035)
Yip.

We Wine Whenever (35:33.413)
She's just going hard for Rebecca. She's just going hard. I know. I know. I agree.

Kelli (35:36.185)
And that's supposed to be her friend. Like I'm really interested to see this reunion to see that, how that's gonna go down.

We Wine Whenever (35:44.217)
Yeah, I am too. I am too.

So then Abe and Erin, get up and they, you know, they want to thank everybody. And Brynn's giving shade about that too. Like how long is this going to be? Cause after the anniversary party and you know, the guy Chris is there, her business partner, and she's talking about that's the guy that Erin slept with in high school that they were talking about in the Hamptons. Like she didn't need to bring that up. Like Brynn is really the root of the problem. She is the one that's stirring everything up. And

Kelli (36:09.818)
No

Kelli (36:13.498)
Yeah.

Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (36:16.951)
Really, think, Uba's point is that like Jessel, Erin, everyone that she's stirring it up with are not holding her accountable. You know, they're not calling her out on it. And that's why it keeps happening. Like somebody else needs to be calling her out on it. Like, I don't even know who she was saying that to. Who was she?

Kelli (36:28.335)
Right.

Kelli (36:33.219)
Right.

Kelli (36:36.911)
Probably Psy because Psy is, you know, I think Psy is trying to take a different approach this season because she got so much flack for how she treated Jessel last season. But this would be warranted. Her, like you said, you know, keeping Brent accountable, that would be warranted right now. Last year with the Jessel thing, that wasn't really warranted. I didn't think, but you know.

We Wine Whenever (36:46.51)
Mm-hmm.

Yeah, yeah.

We Wine Whenever (36:58.968)
Yeah. Yeah.

Lori (37:00.913)
And again, being at a corporate event, was very inappropriate for Brynn to sit there like a 12 year old and doing makeout faces when she's talking about Aaron's business partner. Did you see that when she was doing like, like, what do you know?

Kelli (37:18.629)
She's just... yeah.

We Wine Whenever (37:19.758)
Yes. Yes, I did. I did. It was totally inappropriate and uncalled for. There was no need for it. There really wasn't.

Kelli (37:28.133)
But again, it goes back to her always making everything a sexual innuendo. Always, always, always. And then you get mad when your friend is on a podcast and someone insinuates that possibly you might have a relationship with somebody who's taking care of you and your friend completely said she doesn't believe it, but you're just mad that it was brought up.

Lori (37:28.192)
Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (37:34.669)
Mm-hmm.

We Wine Whenever (37:49.028)
Who's taking care of you?

Kelli (37:57.845)
Stop, listen, I'm not gonna say it, cause I'll get flack for it, but stop putting it out there that you're this overly sexual person if you don't want people to think that you are an overly sexual person.

Lori (38:11.133)
There you go.

Kelli (38:14.105)
And that's the nicest way I could put it.

Lori (38:17.163)
Very nice.

We Wine Whenever (38:17.55)
I agree. I totally agree with you. mean, she, you know, she does put it out there.

Kelli (38:21.913)
You're literally flirting with your friend's father on national television.

Lori (38:28.831)
in front of everyone.

We Wine Whenever (38:29.95)
and he's flirting back.

Kelli (38:31.99)
And he's flirting back. So it's not like it's something where it's, you know, a joke. This is, it's not a joke because he's flirting back.

Lori (38:32.191)
Well, of course he does.

We Wine Whenever (38:41.218)
Right. Right. Right. Now.

Kelli (38:47.331)
Whatever, Brynn, whatever.

We Wine Whenever (38:48.97)
No, I don't know. I would like for Brynn to find a good therapist and I would like for her to find peace in her own life because I think that's really she's just acting out. She's just acting out because she just doesn't have a community, you know, and that's her way to get attention even if it's, you not the attention that she wants.

Kelli (38:55.119)
Yes.

Kelli (39:02.766)
Yes.

Lori (39:15.317)
Right. I don't think she has the emotional maturity.

Kelli (39:16.485)
Right.

Lori (39:20.491)
And that's something that can only come from work.

We Wine Whenever (39:20.804)
Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (39:26.732)
I will tell you when they showed us the scenes for next week, I am very curious as to who is pregnant.

Kelli (39:33.721)
Yeah!

We Wine Whenever (39:34.842)
Do you have any idea? Either of you?

Lori (39:36.702)
No.

Kelli (39:37.187)
No! I have a feeling it's gonna be somebody like so non-related.

We Wine Whenever (39:42.836)
Ugh, that'll be so annoying.

Lori (39:43.019)
Yeah, I think it's gonna be lame. It's gonna be something lame.

Kelli (39:45.453)
I know. People are not loving these, people are not loving the reboot. I listened to the, I didn't listen to the Bra Bros today. I saw a clip on TikTok. I will listen to them, but they hate it. They think they're boring as hell.

Lori (39:49.759)
No.

We Wine Whenever (40:02.103)
I told you that, remember? Yeah, I told you that. They're not loving the Roni, but they're loving OC, which blows my mind.

Kelli (40:06.031)
Yeah.

Kelli (40:10.819)
Yeah, but they're not getting received very well in the second season. They weren't very well received the first season, we'll see. Did you happen to see, are we done with New York?

We Wine Whenever (40:28.365)
Yeah, absolutely.

Kelli (40:30.691)
Real, like right before I hopped on, Up and Adam was on TikTok. guess I'm not watching, what's the show Teresa's on?

Lori (40:41.515)
villains.

We Wine Whenever (40:42.966)
traders. isn't it traders? house of villains. Okay.

Kelli (40:43.993)
villains, house of villains. She's on house of villains. Yeah. I think Traders is a step above house of villains, quite honestly. I don't watch either one of them. But apparently New York, Nicole Pollard calls Louis out with cheating allegations. And Teresa goes, or Teresa doesn't know how to react according to Up and Atom. She doesn't know how to react. She gets very flustered.

Lori (40:44.555)
Traders. How's surveillance? Yeah. How's surveillance?

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

We Wine Whenever (40:52.233)
okay. Okay, okay.

Lori (41:04.104)
Yes, I saw that.

Lori (41:09.857)
Mm-hmm.

Lori (41:13.483)
Yeah, so what.

Kelli (41:14.467)
So I might have to tune into that episode just to see her response.

Lori (41:16.927)
Yeah. So what happened was he sent her like 300 roses or something. just, ugh, ugh. And after she received them, that's when that New York girl made that comment to her. And she said, you know, the only reason that your husband sent you those flowers is because every one of those flowers represents every girl that he's cheated with on since you've been here.

Kelli (41:26.317)
Love, Bomber.

Lori (41:45.685)
So she later admitted that she did it for the show and supposedly her and Teresa are fine. Like she just said it to like get her eyes out of her. And did you see Teresa got her lips? She got stuff on her. Yeah, to get her lips reduced so she can do them all over again, but different. And did you know when... yeah, crazy.

Kelli (41:58.071)
okay.

Kelli (42:02.233)
Yes.

We Wine Whenever (42:02.882)
I did see that, yes. Take it out.

Kelli (42:11.769)
The lips were getting a little out of control.

Lori (42:15.649)
Do you know about this making it in Manhattan show from Bravo?

We Wine Whenever (42:21.622)
Yes. Yes.

Lori (42:22.805)
You mean that already? Yeah. I just found out about it. So I was like, interesting. Is that supposed to come out? Yep. February or March.

Kelli (42:24.057)
Yeah, but please don't make me watch it.

Kelli (42:29.901)
And G is gonna be on it.

Kelli (42:34.873)
I can't watch it. I can't watch that. I can't watch that girl. I can't do it. Please don't make me watch it.

Lori (42:38.281)
No, and Meredith Marks' son.

We Wine Whenever (42:41.688)
Candy Burris' daughter.

Lori (42:44.011)
Take that.

Kelli (42:44.311)
If, listen, I love that. I love Riley Burris. I will sit through Brooks. I will not sit through Gia. I can't do it.

Lori (42:56.747)
Did you guys see the handbag thing? Did you see the handbag thing? boy, I was like what?

We Wine Whenever (42:56.908)
She's gonna do it, don't let her fool you. Of course, that was hysterical, hysterical.

Kelli (43:01.123)
I did see the handbag thing.

Did you see the comparison to the SNL skit?

Lori (43:08.384)
now.

We Wine Whenever (43:08.722)
my God.

Kelli (43:10.275)
So fucking funny.

We Wine Whenever (43:12.78)
Yeah, listen, when you've made it on SNL and you're a skit, listen.

Kelli (43:16.419)
No, no, no, the skit was out before, because I asked, because I thought, there's no, please, for the love of God, don't tell me they're making SNL skits about Teresa, because that chick's head can't get any fucking bigger. Yep.

We Wine Whenever (43:19.48)
We Wine Whenever (43:29.656)
it was out before? my gosh, that makes it even funnier.

Kelli (43:34.957)
Exactly. I mean, Gia was mispronouncing names of bags. She was literally mispronouncing the names.

Lori (43:37.397)
I'm gonna have to watch it now.

We Wine Whenever (43:40.801)
Yeah,

Lori (43:43.935)
Yeah, reading from like cue card. it's like, what are you doing? You guys should practice.

We Wine Whenever (43:48.79)
Now did she get engaged? Did you just get engaged?

Kelli (43:52.929)
I didn't see that, but I don't follow her at all. Like I don't, only if she pops up with something else.

We Wine Whenever (43:55.882)
No, I don't follow her either.

I don't follow her either. I don't know if you've noticed, but like in our Instagram and Facebook, there's all these like housewife things that show up in our feed, but they say follow, like we're not following them. Don't follow any of them because it's all fake news. Like every time I look at those things, like, this is not real. Like I read the headline, I'm like, no, like stop putting that stuff out there. I don't like it when they do that.

Kelli (44:10.819)
Right. Mm-mm. Right.

Kelli (44:20.388)
Right.

Lori (44:22.997)
You know what else I've been seeing?

Kelli (44:23.717)
Yeah. I'm sorry.

Lori (44:26.731)
I've been seeing on, especially on YouTube, there's, if you type in, know, cause a lot of times before we come on, I try and go on YouTube and watch a couple of things. So if you type in, you know, real housewives of New Jersey, I did. And there's all these videos that are on there, but you could tell they're all AI generated.

Kelli (44:49.189)
Really?

Lori (44:49.697)
Yeah, all AI generated because there's like mispronunciations of things. So somebody is just putting a little thing in the chat, GBT, slapping up some pictures that roll why it's going on. And then the chat GBT is just talking because there's things that are, they're not correct. And I'm like, what, what? And then I was like, this is all AI.

Kelli (45:11.941)
Wow.

We Wine Whenever (45:15.58)
That's interesting. Yeah, it is kind of scary. You know, it's not for everything. It's not for everyone. Like, can we be real? Let's just be real.

Lori (45:15.851)
cheaters. Yeah.

Kelli (45:15.949)
AI is kinda scary.

Kelli (45:24.389)
Right. Listen, we put ourselves on YouTube. People can take us and what we say and put together whatever they want. They really could.

We Wine Whenever (45:30.814)
Yeah, sure can. Yeah, they can.

Lori (45:31.221)
Yeah. Yeah.

Lori (45:35.913)
Alright, so...

We Wine Whenever (45:37.746)
Okay, I think until next time. I know, right? What happened to when we used to do inspirational quotes? That was when we had no one even watching us. Now we have people actually watching us, so we're not being very positive.

Kelli (45:38.085)
All right. Well, now that we're ending on such a, you know.

Lori (45:42.496)
Lovely note.

Lori (45:46.944)
Yeah.

Kelli (45:50.029)
Listen, we have to get back to the would you rathers and ending with a nice quote. I agree. We got to go back to old school because those would you rathers were fun.

Lori (45:56.032)
Yes.

We Wine Whenever (46:00.385)
All right, we'll try them and if people like them, we'll keep doing them. But if they don't like them, we won't do them. So next episode we're gonna do, it's gonna be our Salt Lake City episode. We'll do a couple would you rathers and we are gonna end with a positive quote. Because we were doing that for a while. And then we stopped, because we got lazy or we got overwhelmed because we were doing four episodes a week. I know, I know. All right, until next time, thank you for watching.

Kelli (46:03.354)
Yeah.

Kelli (46:10.084)
Yeah.

Kelli (46:15.909)
We were.

Lori (46:16.074)
Yes.

Kelli (46:21.869)
Yes, that's what it was.

We Wine Whenever (46:30.133)
Bye.

Kelli (46:30.201)
Bye.

Lori (46:31.807)
wait, wait, wait, before we leave, I have one. No, I'm not ending it. I'm not stopping it. I'm giving the people... I know, but I want to give people a quote. I want to give people...

Kelli (46:33.177)
Lori, you gotta hit end. Wait, you gotta hit stop. No, you gotta hit stop so we stop recording.

We Wine Whenever (46:41.376)
She's still talking, Kelly. I know. You're like, no, you gotta hit stop. No, hit stop.

Kelli (46:45.529)
Sorry.

I thought we were going to start talking about other stuff.

Lori (46:51.453)
Okay. Not yet. All right. It's from Audrey. It's too funny. It's from Audrey Hepburn.

Kelli (46:56.089)
Sorry.

Lori (47:05.569)
Wait, that's not a one.

We Wine Whenever (47:08.608)
hahahahah

Kelli (47:11.045)
You should've hit stop.

Lori (47:11.103)
Okay, how about this one? there's not even any liquor. There's no liquor involved. Okay. How about energy? well, there you go. Energy and persistence conquer all things. How about that?

We Wine Whenever (47:14.08)
She can still hit, you can still hit stop.

No.

Kelli (47:20.045)
I am. I'm having tequila.

We Wine Whenever (47:29.01)
I don't believe it. Really? That's the best you got? Who said that?

Lori (47:29.099)
that good? Energy and persistence conquer all things. How about this one? You don't like that one? How about this one? Okay. How about this? The mind is not a vessel to be filled, but a fire to be kindled.

Kelli (47:31.983)
What was it? What was it? Eric text me. What was it?

We Wine Whenever (47:41.298)
No. All right, give me a better one.

Kelli (47:42.554)
Listen.

We Wine Whenever (47:54.261)
You're killing me.

Lori (47:56.001)
All right.

Kelli (47:56.527)
Listen, I'm here for the energy thing, because I'm going to tell you something right now. I was out to dinner with old coworkers Friday night. And it's from a job where I had the worst boss I've ever had in my whole life. And I've talked about him. And he made me cry at work. That's never happened to me before. He was a very bad person. And I've said some very, very nasty things about him since he's passed away. Well, I was talking shit about him Friday night, and I was being very nasty.

And he is deceased. The lights flickered in the restaurant. I did not see this, but Liz and Bev swear that Bev's glass shifted over. Okay. Then we had a really bad night with one of my kids. Very bad night. So after that, I decided that I, first of all, I need to stop talking shit about this guy. He's deceased. Let him, let him rest in peace.

We Wine Whenever (48:31.189)
You

Lori (48:51.915)
There you go.

Kelli (48:52.025)
but I have to start putting better energy out into the world. And even though if somebody wrongs me, which he did, he was not a nice man, and he did make me cry at work multiple times in front of other partners, I can't do it. I just gotta put positive energy out into the world.

We Wine Whenever (49:08.437)
That is true. I 100 % agree with that. 100%. I can get behind that.

Kelli (49:11.971)
Yeah.

Lori (49:12.297)
Okay. How about this one? Simply with a change of mind, you can change your life. How about that one?

We Wine Whenever (49:17.237)
I just agreed with-

Kelli (49:21.975)
Again, say it again. I didn't hear it.

We Wine Whenever (49:24.445)
No good!

Lori (49:24.513)
Simply with a change of mind, you can change your life.

Kelli (49:30.531)
Yeah, I agree with that 100%. Yes, that's good. That's very good.

Lori (49:31.329)
And then better. Okay, good. Well, I'm, I'm glad to not be an absolute failure in the quote department for on the, on the fly.

We Wine Whenever (49:33.991)
That's good.

We Wine Whenever (49:39.758)
No, not a failure, not a failure. What I'm thinking maybe next time we get edibles before we get to the quote section.

Kelli (49:40.025)
Listen, you're never a failure.

Kelli (49:47.127)
I'm not gonna lie, I feel like we were a lot funnier when we would do that.

We Wine Whenever (49:50.164)
I mean we thought we were funny!

Lori (49:50.955)
We're always, yeah. All right, now I think I should hit stop.

Kelli (49:55.299)
We were fucking hysterical when there was an edible involved. I'm here for it as long as it's a Saturday night and I don't have to work the next day because you both know I am putty the next day when I do that. Lori has to tuck me into bed sometime.

Lori (49:59.114)
Now I think I'll hit stop.

We Wine Whenever (50:06.124)
you

Lori (50:08.555)
Yes.

Yes, I've had to do that.

We Wine Whenever (50:11.124)
Alright, so until next time.

Kelli (50:18.009)
Bye. All right, now you can hit stop.

Lori (50:18.237)
All right,