Summer House Season Finale & The Valley Recap

Summer House Season Finale & The Valley Recap

Summary

In this episode of We Wine Whenever, Wendy and Kelli discuss the season finale of Summer House, focusing on the complex relationships and dynamics among the cast. They delve into trust issues, the impact of reality TV on friendships, and the drama surrounding Jesse and Sierra. The conversation also touches on themes of empowerment and codependency in relationships, as well as speculations about the upcoming reunion and the future of the show. In this conversation, Wendy and Kelli discuss various themes surrounding reality TV, focusing on the dynamics of relationships, alcohol consumption, and the impact of public perception on celebrity families. They delve into specific episodes of 'The Valley,' analyzing the interactions between cast members, particularly Nia and Danny, and the accusations they face. The discussion also touches on generational differences in drinking habits, the complexities of self-diagnosing alcoholism, and the challenges of maintaining friendships amidst drama.

Takeaways

• Trust issues are prevalent in the relationships on Summer House.
• Reality TV can complicate friendships and loyalty among cast members.
• Boundaries and respect are crucial during party dynamics.
• Rumors can significantly impact relationships, as seen with Jesse.
• Breakups can lead to personal growth and moving on.
• Empowerment in relationships can sometimes lead to codependency.
• The reunion may reveal more about the cast's dynamics and future.
• Humor and light-hearted moments can balance the drama in reality TV.
• The future of cast members like Lexi remains uncertain but intriguing.
• Fans are eager to see how relationships evolve in the next season. Nia and Danny are seen as a sincere couple.
• Alcohol consumption can be misunderstood in social contexts.
• Self-diagnosis is crucial in understanding alcoholism.
• Generational trends show a divide in drinking habits.
• Friendship dynamics can lead to betrayal and drama.
• Public perception can heavily influence celebrity relationships.
• The importance of accountability in parenting is highlighted.
• Nia's background adds depth to her character.
• Accusations against Danny may stem from jealousy.
• The role of Jason is pivotal in relationship dynamics.

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• 9:06 (Cont.) Summer House Season Finale & The Valley Recap

Transcript

Wendy (00:00.91)
Hi, welcome to We Wine Whenever. I'm Wendy. We are talking about Summer House, season nine, episode number 15, the summer scaries, season finale. We pick up where we left off on episode 14, where they're at the dinner and Lexi says that she doesn't trust Sierra based on what

Kelli (00:03.729)
I'm Kelly.

Kelli (00:13.683)
season finale.

Wendy (00:30.508)
Jessie had told her.

Kelli (00:32.424)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (00:33.976)
And we see Sierra, you know, not too happy about that.

Kelli (00:38.749)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (00:40.45)
Because Jesse, appears from everything I've seen is saying one thing to Sierra and the rest of the house and another thing to Lexi.

Kelli (00:48.605)
Well, yeah, because thank God, and we said this last week, thank God Kyle went to Lexi and was like, listen, he was just up there saying that you had a problem with his friendship with Sierra. And she was like, I did not, I didn't say that. So that's why this was brought up at the dinner table. But it's clearly what he did. We saw him doing that. People online are saying, people online are actually sticking up for Jesse saying that Lexi's the problem. And I'm like, I...

Wendy (01:04.482)
Yes.

Wendy (01:15.874)
I know.

Kelli (01:16.935)
Just don't say it. I mean, I don't think Lexi was in love with Jesse or anything like that. Chances are she probably did think, let me date him for the summer while I'm in the house. Maybe it'll help me a little bit. know, chances are that was in the back of her head. I think she liked him, but.

Wendy (01:18.562)
I don't see it either.

Wendy (01:34.828)
Right. Yeah. Yeah. No, I agree. And like you said, some people are really like anti-like Lexi. They're calling her immature. I'm like, she's actually not immature. I mean, I get that they don't like the mother-sister dynamic that comes with her. I don't really like that either. And then they're attacking her for being a model when she's five feet tall and size zero. OK. I mean, seriously?

Kelli (01:53.18)
Agreed.

Kelli (02:01.971)
She clearly made it, people. She made it despite all that, and she's been on her own since what, 17? Like I don't think you can call somebody like that immature.

Wendy (02:04.187)
Right. You know, there's

Wendy (02:10.336)
Yeah, it's

No, no, mean, no, you definitely can't. think people...

Kelli (02:18.035)
I don't think she's immature with relationships. I think that she's been burned. Like I think she must have been cheated on multiple times, or even if you're cheated on once, like it's like PTSD. It never goes away.

Wendy (02:29.922)
Right. No, I totally agree. I totally agree.

Did you see on watch what happens live it was Lindsay and Kyle Okay

Kelli (02:44.423)
Yes, I did see that. Actually, I did not mind Kyle, which was shocking because he normally annoys the shit out of me.

Wendy (02:48.286)
No. I know.

I agree. actually really enjoyed Lindsay too. You know? Yeah. I feel like, yeah, I feel like we have a new Lindsay.

Kelli (02:55.535)
yeah, I have been this season. Which again, shocking.

Yeah, and although her post, her one year breakup anniversary post was, that was insane.

Wendy (03:12.022)
She admits it though. That's what I like about her. That's what I like about her. Like it was totally insane, but that's what she does. Who cares? Like, you know?

Kelli (03:13.844)
Exactly. Yes.

Kelli (03:20.655)
I loved when at the end of the dinner or at some point at the dinner was it Amanda and they were like, Carl, would you like to draft your anniversary post now? He was like, no.

Wendy (03:30.26)
Yes. No, I like how he takes it in stride. I like how he takes it in stride.

Kelli (03:37.433)
I agree with you and I think he hit the nail on the head. think it was last, I don't know if it was this episode or last episode. I don't think she misses Carl. I don't even think she was in love with Carl, I'll be honest with you. I think she's embarrassed about getting broken up with on national television. She should be embarrassed. He never should have done that. But I think that, of course she's past it now, but last summer, I think she was still dealing with the humiliation.

I think that this is where this is all coming from.

Wendy (04:07.022)
I can imagine that that's the case. mean...

Kelli (04:11.025)
And she should, he shouldn't have done it. I know you're on a reality TV show, but that was a little too far.

Wendy (04:18.816)
It's funny that you say that because then other people would say, well, you're on a reality TV show. Why didn't you do it on camera? either way, he's not going to win. He's not going to win. No, there was no winning in this for Carl. There was no way he was going to win.

Kelli (04:25.787)
Yeah, you're right. He wasn't gonna win. Right. Like I think that Paige, like what Paige did, even though we're seeing the lead up to it, I'm glad we didn't see that on camera. There's just something like inauthentic about it to me for some reason when it's on camera, because we know that there are producers around and they are kind of guiding them in these scenes.

Wendy (04:38.52)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (04:55.085)
Yeah.

Kelli (04:55.111)
Not that I think anybody was, but Carl, I really do think that that was a real scene, which is probably even more hurtful to her.

Wendy (05:01.196)
Right, no, I think it was a real scene too. think he, you know, like he said, his initial thought was that he was just gonna kind of put it out there and he wanted to make it work. But when he saw the direction it was going, he's like, this isn't gonna work. And honestly, like Lindsay said, like him letting her go was the best thing that happened to her because it allowed her to get what she always wanted, which was to be a mom, you know?

Kelli (05:24.655)
Absolutely. Yep. Absolutely.

Wendy (05:29.678)
So I, you know, I think it was fine. I think it was fine. And there's time, you know, now there's time in between there and time does heal. So the theme of this party is, I guess it was a scary, it was a scary party. I really don't like, I didn't like this theme to be honest with you. I didn't like the way Gabby was interjecting in that conversation.

when West was trying to stick up for Jesse because West hadn't opened up his mouth all season. And then all of a sudden...

Kelli (06:01.565)
thought it was real interesting how Sierra was like, no, let him talk. Like now, now you're gonna take up for your boy. Now when it's him sticking up for Jessie, like I don't think she's a girl's girl, Sierra. I really don't. Here's the thing about Amanda Page and Sierra. They're them girls girls, but I don't think they're other girls girls. I couldn't believe when Sierra was like, no, let him talk. Like about Wes, like come on.

Wendy (06:05.002)
Let him talk. Yup.

Wendy (06:25.325)
I mean...

Wendy (06:29.784)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (06:30.789)
Sierra, you've been shitting on him all summer, but now he's gonna stick up for Jesse and you're gonna let him. Not in like.

Wendy (06:39.598)
And well, don't, I mean, I think it's that she didn't like that it was Gabby of all people telling him who hadn't, we don't know anything about Gabby, you know?

Kelli (06:49.477)
No, I thought that Wes made a really good point with that. Like you've been judging people for three years about their relationships and in three years you've never shared a relationship. And I don't think Gabby ever will. And I think if the show told her like you either do it or you get off the show, she'd be like, peace out. Like she doesn't seem like she needs it. She doesn't seem like she even loves it.

Wendy (07:00.033)
Right.

Wendy (07:09.568)
Right. No, she doesn't. She really doesn't.

Kelli (07:13.285)
like her, I like Gabby. I like her on the show, but I don't think if she was given an ultimatum, she'd stay.

Wendy (07:20.334)
actually don't like her on the show. don't really think she adds anything, to be honest with you.

Kelli (07:24.135)
I think she's there as Lindsay, she's the new Danielle. She's there as Lindsay's, know, with the whole, you know, announcement thing, like Lindsay needs somebody there. Well, the other three are thick as thieves, so Lindsay needs somebody in her corner and that's Gabby's role now.

Wendy (07:28.163)
Yeah.

Wendy (07:42.38)
Well, now that Lindsay and Paige are super close, I don't think they're going to need Gabby. Although, you know, we don't think that. We still don't know whether or not Lindsay's coming back. We don't know what's happening. mean, Andy has made it perfectly clear that they are actively casting New York. They're actively casting New Jersey. They are not canceled, despite all the rumors. He's also said stop asking.

Kelli (07:47.027)
True. True.

Wendy (08:10.048)
And as soon as Summerhouse ends, it's going to be the same thing. You're going to hear the same thing from him.

Kelli (08:16.305)
Yeah, yeah. I mean, and there is a rumor that somebody from Vanderpump's coming. And I really hope it's Dana or Charlie. I really, really hope.

Wendy (08:17.294)
That's my thought. mean, I could be wrong, but that's what my thought is.

Wendy (08:26.944)
Yeah. I mean, I think it would, I would hope it would be somebody who has some New York connections or New York ties. And I don't know their backstories well enough to know like what their ties are. But yeah, I think that would be fun to mix it up. I think that would be fun.

Kelli (08:37.021)
Right.

Kelli (08:42.419)
one of them's friends with Lexi, so she could, you know. I wonder how, it would have been any different if that girl Bailey would have hung in there for the rest of the season for Lexi. Like, you know.

Wendy (08:54.798)
Yeah, I mean, but Lexi was again, I don't know how Lexi was supposed to be Amanda's friend. Amanda knew her.

Kelli (09:02.567)
I think they were just acquaintances. They had a drink before the season started and you know, but you wouldn't know it by watching the season. You wouldn't think that they were friends.

Wendy (09:06.934)
Yeah.

Wendy (09:11.318)
Right. Right. And even like, if you, you know, they talked about this on Watch What Happens Live with Lindsay and Kyle, they were in a summer share house in Montauk before the show. Like they were legit summer share friends. That is what, that's who they were. Yes. Yes. Yeah.

Kelli (09:23.825)
Yeah. Yeah. With the work is twins, Carl, Carl was season one. And these were people that, know, Kyle was to pitch the show to Bravo somehow.

Wendy (09:37.996)
Yeah, I mean, I wouldn't be surprised. Kyle's a hustler. He's a hustler. So at the party, Jesse is there, and I guess he invited a bunch of sorority girls. And we see him surrounded by these blondes. And then we see him take the blondes into the house. And Paige and Amanda.

Kelli (09:41.351)
Yeah, yeah, for sure, for sure.

Wendy (10:07.372)
go in and say, these girls need to leave. You know, it's one thing to be broken up, but it's another thing to do it right in her face, in her backyard, her literal backyard. Like, it's not cool. And I'm glad that they shut it down. I'm glad they shut it down.

Kelli (10:26.312)
Yeah.

Wendy (10:29.358)
And then what else happened?

Kelli (10:32.371)
Well Sierra went in with the broom.

Wendy (10:35.41)
yes, she went in with the broom.

Kelli (10:37.235)
I don't really think that that had anything to do with Lexi though. I don't know why I feel this strongly, but I feel like Sierra didn't want Jesse talking to those girls.

Wendy (10:46.926)
Oh, I don't think that's the case. I don't think that's the case. I do think it was for Lexi. I I hear what you're saying that those three are girls, girls for themselves, but I don't know. Like I listened to Delores talk about Ciara from what I've seen of her. I think she's just guarded. I think she's guarded. And whether...

Kelli (10:48.815)
Now, huh?

Kelli (11:10.797)
for sure. But I don't think her hands are clean here. And she's acting like her hands are 100 % clean and Lexi should keep her name out of her mouth. Like, well, there's a whole scene of you flirting with them, so.

Wendy (11:21.334)
Well, I

I think she meant to keep her name out of her mouth in reference to...

why she broke up with Jesse because that's not why she broke up with Jesse. She said the reason she broke is because she didn't trust him because of things that he has said and he has lied. You know?

Kelli (11:38.482)
Right.

Kelli (11:44.753)
Right, but I don't, mean, yeah, I mean, we didn't see her, like, for Ciara to say that, she didn't do that. We saw the breakup. And Kyle asked her, did you mention Ciara? And she said, no, absolutely not.

Wendy (11:59.416)
I know, but I think it happened. It came out afterwards in social media. I don't know if was something that was discussed on either a podcast or something, or even it was in social media. It came out on social media after it had aired, like after this whole season had aired.

Kelli (12:20.967)
Okay.

Wendy (12:21.824)
So I don't know if it was directly related to...

Wendy (12:28.01)
Sierra like, you going after Jessie because obviously if she wanted Jessie she could have had Jessie. Like...

Kelli (12:35.377)
Yeah, I mean, I totally agree with you. mean, does anybody want Jessie at this point? Although Erica Jane is rumored to have hooked up with him this weekend or this week. I don't think it's true. I mean, listen, there are two single people in New York, but I just personally don't think it happened. I don't think she'd be, why would she want to hook up with Jessie Solomon? She's Erica Jane.

Wendy (12:44.086)
Wha- you think that's true? I mean, I wouldn't put it past her. I wouldn't put it past her.

They're two single people, right?

Wendy (13:01.154)
I mean, listen. Yeah, but listen. A girl has needs and she would tell you that. Right? I mean, I don't know.

Kelli (13:06.353)
Yes, yeah, but come on. He's a little goofy, isn't he?

Wendy (13:14.422)
Well, yeah, he is. He is goofy. He is goofy. I agree. I do like, I'll be honest with you, the other thing Andy brought up on Watch What Happens Live is the real feud between Summerhouse and Southern Charm. And it's only between Craig though, because Kyle said he still talks to Austin and he still talks to Shep. Yeah.

Kelli (13:14.803)
I think he's just so goofy.

Kelli (13:35.569)
Austin and shit. I mean, Craig unfollowed them with the breakup. Does anybody blame him though? They were all coming out saying shit. I would unfollow them too. They all were saying that he should have been more protective of her. He should have, maybe Craig really thought she cheated on him. Maybe Craig didn't know 100 % in his gut that she didn't cheat on him. Maybe that's why he didn't come out to defend her.

Wendy (13:43.31)
I don't think anyone-

Kelli (14:03.719)
I'm not trying to defend Craig, because I feel like I've done that enough. And I do totally think they should have broken up, shouldn't have been together. I think he was absolutely 100 % intimidated by her success. And that's very sad. But I don't think he, I don't think he bared the responsibility of defending her against cheating rumors. Because maybe he really thought she cheated. Maybe he didn't know for sure.

Wendy (14:32.142)
I mean, that is a theory. I think that that is when she said the gloves are off because she specifically asked him to shut it down because the version of his story, even it comes up about the ring, that he says he bought this ring and nobody's seen the ring? Come on. I mean, seriously? Maybe he didn't have a ring, like he's been known to lie.

Kelli (14:53.617)
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Maybe he didn't even have a ring.

Wendy (15:01.432)
Like he's been known to lie. Who buys the ring and doesn't show it to a single person? I mean, that's a little sus.

Kelli (15:11.185)
Yeah, like at least Shep and Austin would have seen it, right?

Wendy (15:15.756)
You would think, you would think.

Kelli (15:18.939)
and don't like probably would have aired on Southern Charm if he got the ring and you know.

Wendy (15:25.986)
Yeah, it just it was manipulation. I feel like that whole just that whole thing was such manipulation on his part.

Kelli (15:32.871)
Well, when she said, and listen, I don't take everything she says 100 % as fact either. I really don't because I think what Craig said is true. She didn't like the way she got portrayed when she broke up with him. People really came for her.

Wendy (15:48.942)
Which they did no they definitely did

Kelli (15:52.367)
I was guilty of it myself. And that's when things turned. mean, she was not saying nice things about him and he was not saying not nice things about her. He wouldn't say a bad thing about her. He wouldn't make a bad comment about her.

Wendy (16:10.798)
She wasn't saying not nice things about him. When she gave her podcast breakup story, when she, when she, and she just, it's not that she was saying bad things about him, because she said the entire time, like, you know, he's a good guy, just not, you know, just not right for me, you know, he's a better version of himself, I'm a different version of myself. Like she didn't say anything bad about him until.

Kelli (16:17.393)
Sure, that was fine.

Wendy (16:37.59)
And again, I don't even know what she said that was bad until she asked him to shut down those rumors and he refused to. So she then had to stick up for herself and start admitting the things that she had lied for him about. She had been sticking up for him the entire relationship. She had been covering him the entire relationship about all the lies that he had said.

Kelli (17:01.989)
how about Amanda was on the after show. She's like, do I have notes by the way?

Wendy (17:08.982)
I don't know, do you?

Kelli (17:10.963)
I now that I'm thinking about it, because I started watching the after show for the Valley and Summer House, and it's very good. I'm going to say this though. Those girls on Summer House, they think they're like, you know, yay women, like women. If a man said half of the things they said, we would be, we would be pummeling him. They are so, they think that

Wendy (17:16.438)
Yes, it's good!

Kelli (17:40.817)
I don't know if I'm explaining it right.

Wendy (17:43.566)
Do you remember what they said?

Kelli (17:46.343)
I mean, just the fact that she said, I'm the breadwinner, why would I move to you? Could you imagine if a man said that? Could you imagine if a man said that?

Wendy (17:52.77)
Well, wait a second. Excuse me, Joe Gorgas said it. Joe Gorgas said it to his wife, Melissa. I bring home, I bring home and you bring home the crumbs. Okay, okay. So, but it's been done. It's not like.

Kelli (18:00.145)
and he looked, yes. And he looked like a big giant asshole for it. 100%.

Kelli (18:11.993)
it's been done, but these girls do it very flippantly. and on the after show Amanda's like, you did so good, you did so good, like protecting Craig. You fucking do that for Kyle constantly.

Wendy (18:28.024)
She does. She does do that for Kyle.

Kelli (18:30.173)
But does this make you an empowered woman that you have to lie and cover up for your significant other? This is what empowers women? Lying for your husband and protecting him?

Wendy (18:45.218)
Well, I don't think so. I don't think so. I I wouldn't say that that's what makes you an empowered woman, but I would say that, you know, standing by your husband and your marriage is not a bad thing. You know, even if to...

Kelli (18:46.002)
I don't know.

Kelli (18:59.069)
course not, but when you're...

Wendy (19:02.382)
It doesn't take your power away. don't think it makes you, you you can still be an independent woman and have your husband's back is what I'm saying.

Kelli (19:12.019)
Yeah, have his back, but lie to cover up things for him? That's codependency. That's an enabler.

Wendy (19:17.538)
Well, yeah, that is an enabler. But if you want to make the, listen, I mean, at this point, I don't know why you'd want to make the marriage work because you don't have any children yet. Like if there was a time to cut and run, this would be the time to cut and run. we'll have to wait and see what happens because supposedly we're going to get a big surprise at the end of the reunion.

Kelli (19:25.607)
I

Kelli (19:35.345)
I agree. I think she should get up on

Kelli (19:45.939)
Still, they're still saying that.

Wendy (19:47.392)
Yes, and I don't know how many episodes the reunion is.

Kelli (19:50.781)
I heard it's two. I mean, is the big surprise that Amanda says, I'm not gonna have a kid with you, because I don't think you're ready to have kids, because I've seen the coming, like I've seen the preview for that.

Wendy (20:01.922)
I don't think so because they've showed us that. So I don't think that they're going to tease us with some, but who knows? I mean, it is Bravo. Anything's very, it's possible. Who knows? Who knows? I liked towards, at the end of the episode, I liked, I liked the whole Gemma and Lindsay and the pumping of the breast milk and them doing shots of the breast milk. I mean, honestly, I thought it was hysterical. I did. I thought it was hysterical.

Kelli (20:09.831)
Yeah. Yeah.

Kelli (20:27.579)
I did too. I did too. Yeah.

Wendy (20:30.51)
I like this side of Lindsay. I like this side of Lindsay.

Kelli (20:33.999)
for sure, for sure. Now remember in previews of the upcoming season, we see Paige say that she saw Craig texting two girls or something during their relationship. They didn't show that.

Wendy (20:51.75)
No, they didn't. They didn't. But that may be something that comes out at the reunion too. Like, who knows?

Kelli (20:55.581)
I just thought that was interesting.

Kelli (21:00.127)
yeah, maybe that's true. Maybe they'll show that at the reunion when they reference it.

Wendy (21:03.616)
Yeah, because sometimes that happens at the reunions. They just started doing that recently is where they'll show you a clip that we never saw before. And then they'll have like context to it that like, okay, well, that now makes sense. Which it kind of drives me crazy because why wasn't it included in the season? You know what I'm saying?

Kelli (21:18.725)
Right. Right.

Kelli (21:23.655)
Right, exactly. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, but that was nice. That was nice how the show ended with the three of them together. Ciara wasn't there, right? It was just Paige, Amanda, and Lindsay.

Wendy (21:29.527)
Wendy (21:34.531)
Yeah.

Yeah, yeah, I thought Sierra was going to come, but maybe she was busy working that day or whatever. I mean, it was December 30th, like it was the end of the year. Like, yeah, yeah. And I think it was like the day I or the day after her podcast or the day it was like right after she had dropped the podcast.

Kelli (21:42.332)
Yeah.

Kelli (21:46.668)
was that late? yeah. Okay.

Kelli (22:00.635)
Okay. after Paige did. Yeah, I mean, obviously we didn't see it, but Craig must've been very intimidated by her success. I mean, I don't think we ever saw it. Because I don't think him asking, like, where do I fit in is him being intimidated. But I do think that other things probably happened off camera that made her feel a certain way.

Wendy (22:02.848)
Yes, yes.

Wendy (22:14.06)
Well, I mean.

Wendy (22:27.832)
I saw a post, I think it was on Instagram, they made it appear to be coming from Paige's father. Did you see that? I don't think it's real. I don't think it's real.

Kelli (22:37.049)
Yeah, but I think that was, I don't think this man has any interest in getting involved in this. I mean, she said, my dad said, you sound more like yourself or something, right? Like you sound back to your, and listen, that's fucking exhausting if you're, I don't think she was still trying to cover up for shit Craig did, but it had been three years. That's exhausting. So I'm sure her father did say that.

Wendy (22:43.914)
I don't either. I don't either.

Wendy (22:52.107)
Yes.

Wendy (23:02.39)
Yes, yes.

Kelli (23:06.481)
I don't think you put that statement out though. and I think there's so much AI bullshit going on.

Wendy (23:07.98)
I don't think he did either. And I really don't like when they do that. I don't because it

Mm-hmm. I agree. agree. I don't like that. I don't like when they do that.

Kelli (23:21.168)
So somebody posted something, two things came out this week about Real Housewives of New Jersey, not to pull away from this, but it's the AI thing, I personally think. One was that Melissa was talking about Teresa and Jaya, and the other one was Margaret was talking about Louis. But nowhere, and I commented and I said, I think that this is fake news. And the person who posted it said, this is not fake news. said blah, blah, blah. And I'm like,

Wendy (23:30.702)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (23:49.489)
But where? Where did they say it? What is the source? Was it in an interview with a magazine? Was it on a podcast? Like, if somebody said it, we'd know where it came from.

Wendy (23:50.881)
Right.

Wendy (24:01.902)
Right. They didn't answer. Right. Yeah. There's so much misinformation out there. And there's like pages that pop up every day about housewives and Bravo. it's honestly, it's annoying. Like who has time to do that? And what is the end game for them? Like, is it just to get clicks? Like why? Like, what are they doing? I don't get it. Cause I mean, they're probably making money and here we are actually putting out.

Kelli (24:03.121)
and you can't find it. No.

Kelli (24:13.447)
Yes.

Kelli (24:23.591)
Right. Yeah. Yeah.

Wendy (24:32.046)
not fake news and not making any money. Maybe we need to take a page out of the fake news book and try and figure it out.

Kelli (24:34.439)
Right, just doing our thing, people. Not making a dime.

Kelli (24:45.235)
Like I'm reading this so-called statement from her father. I'm like, who do you say this to? Like, who's he calling somebody and saying this to? Like, this man's too busy and I'm sure way too successful and distinguished to have any time to do this. And I'm sure he just wants his daughter to be at peace now with her decision and move on with her life.

Wendy (24:49.783)
Right.

Right.

Wendy (25:00.225)
I totally agree.

Wendy (25:06.08)
Yes, I'm sure that that's the case. I'm sure that's the case.

Kelli (25:08.124)
Yes, exactly.

So funny. So I guess we just have to wait to see who's coming back. A lot of people do not want Lexi back.

Wendy (25:18.08)
I've seen that. I want Lexi to come back. I want her to come back.

Kelli (25:20.741)
I do too. Because I do think that Jessie love bombed her. I do think he came on incredibly strong. We saw that. So her claims that he was coming on really strong during the week when they weren't filming, I believe that because we saw it on camera. Yeah, I believe it. I think she just got wrapped up in it. Like who wouldn't?

Wendy (25:40.63)
When they were, right, when they were filming, yes. I do too.

Kelli (25:51.271)
Like most girls would get wrapped up in that.

Wendy (25:51.288)
That's, yeah.

I agree. totally agree.

Kelli (25:57.853)
So I hope they give her another season so we could see. I mean, for crying out loud, they gave West another season after what he did to Sierra. They should give her another season so we could see what it's like with her not being entangled with any. And if she does come back next season and Jesse comes back, please don't make it all about their breakup like they did with Carl and Lindsay this season.

Wendy (26:18.03)
God. Yes, please don't because we don't need to see that. Like that's last season stuff. Let's move on to the next, right?

Kelli (26:23.077)
No, let it be, let it be. Right, yeah, yeah. Let's see single Lexi. Or if she wants to bring Drake on, we're here for that too.

Wendy (26:29.206)
Yes, let's.

Wendy (26:34.03)
I seriously do not think that's going to be happening. Just saying.

Kelli (26:38.355)
I don't you really hope it's true that she dated him though?

Wendy (26:43.221)
I mean, I think that's very possible.

Kelli (26:45.294)
I do too.

Wendy (26:48.695)
Maybe she'll clear it up.

Kelli (26:48.891)
I mean, I was impressed with Cindy Crawford and Posh Spice's sons respectively. So, you know.

Wendy (26:56.109)
Mm-hmm.

We'll have to wait and see. You want to move on to the valley?

Kelli (27:03.429)
Yeah, we should probably move on to

Wendy (27:05.472)
talk about the valley so this is season two episode number six right and it's called behind closed pantry doors that's funny i mean it's appropriate right

Kelli (27:17.129)
and what is it?

Kelli (27:26.077)
Did you, so I did watch the after show. By the way, real quick, one thing about Summerhouse. Did you notice that Emeril is always by himself in the after show? Will nobody like sit with him? Like what is the problem?

Wendy (27:35.168)
Yeah? Yeah.

I don't understand it, but he's always by himself with everything. Yeah, I don't think we're gonna get him back.

Kelli (27:46.007)
I think he got a raw deal this summer. I don't think he's coming back, but I think he got a bad production cut. But whatever, we'll move on to the Valley.

Wendy (27:51.117)
Yeah.

Wendy (27:57.358)
Yeah, yeah. So this, they're still in Santa Barbara. Well no, they're back from Santa Barbara actually, but they're disgusting Santa Barbara, right?

Kelli (28:09.223)
Well, yeah, but doesn't this doesn't the does the episode start with them continuing and then Danny gets up?

Wendy (28:20.078)
No, think that doesn't it start where they're getting ready for the they have that little party where they're where the girls are all meeting

Kelli (28:29.819)
Yeah, I thought I thought they

Wendy (28:33.026)
We're still in Santa Barbara? Okay.

Kelli (28:34.787)
I think so, and I think Danny wakes up and then they go in and, you know, like they go in their room and she tells them, tells him what's happening. And then, but I think that that's like a quick thing and then, yeah.

Wendy (28:39.618)
and everyone's gone.

Wendy (28:44.746)
Okay, so it's the end.

Okay, so it's the end of Santa Barbara, I guess, then just before they're leaving, because a bunch of them had gone already, and the only ones pretty much left were Nia and Danny, right?

Kelli (28:51.239)
Yes. Yeah.

Kelli (29:01.319)
Yeah. Yes, yes.

Wendy (29:02.764)
So my thought on this whole Nia and Danny thing is, first of all, I like them as a couple. I think that they are sincere. Yes, he's an actor. Yes, she's a pageant girl. I don't care about that. Like, I think that other cast mates, and when I say other cast mates, I'm referring to Janet.

and Jasmine are jealous. I think that they're jealous. And I think that they don't like that they are considered the favorite couple. And I feel like they're doing whatever they need to do to tear them down. Yeah, okay, he had a shot in the closet. Who cares? Okay, she said he was tired. Who cares? It's her husband. Like they both said, like, if you watch them in their interviews, you can say they're media trained, you can say they're a good couple.

They are consistent with their answers. Yes, they have problems. They go to marriage counseling. They have individual therapists themselves. They're fine. They have three small children and another one on the way. Give them a break. That's how I feel. I really feel like they are targeting them.

Kelli (30:05.021)
Yes.

Kelli (30:24.359)
I totally agree with you. And as far as his drinking, this is my take on it. We know people who aren't necessarily alcoholics, but don't have good reactions to alcohol. Whether it's a medical condition, they might only have two drinks. It affects them as if I had six. I can handle my alcohol.

Wendy (30:41.207)
Yeah.

Wendy (30:44.536)
Right.

Kelli (30:52.891)
I have a higher tolerance probably because of the frequency that I drink. I'll be the first to admit, but I'm just saying I can handle it. Watch me go out tonight and make a damn fool of myself. like my husband almost, is it almost three or four years ago? Almost four years ago had a really bad night with alcohol. He wasn't an alcoholic. He never abused alcohol in his life, but he had a really bad night and injured himself.

and made a conscious decision the next day just to take a break and he hasn't had an ounce of alcohol since. He didn't make a decision that day and say, I'm never drinking again. He just, but my point being that he didn't necessarily have a problem. He had a bad night. So he drank too much that night. So Danny might be that person who probably should watch his alcohol intake.

Wendy (31:32.62)
Right.

Wendy (31:41.304)
Right.

Kelli (31:51.003)
I don't think he's chugging warm tequila every night in a pantry. He doesn't have an alcohol abuse problem. He probably just, when he drinks one too many, turns into a different person, it's not a great thing, but it doesn't make him an alcoholic, right?

Wendy (31:55.639)
No.

Wendy (32:09.824)
No, it doesn't. No, it doesn't make him an alcoholic. And he even said on the after show, know, I sometimes drink too much and Nia has said to me that it's a problem for her and I have stopped. He's already acknowledged that. So he acknowledges when it becomes a problem and it's pointed out to him by his wife, he stopped. So the fact that he can stop

Kelli (32:28.339)
There you go.

Wendy (32:39.47)
stop and start, you know, first of all, that to me says, you're not an alcoholic. And like Lala said on the after show, alcoholic is a self-diagnosed disease. You have to self-diagnose yourself as an alcoholic. Nobody else can do it. And she said that herself as an alcoholic.

Kelli (32:48.253)
Right.

Kelli (33:07.411)
That's right.

Wendy (33:08.33)
So if an alcoholic is saying you need to self-diagnose yourself and he is saying that he is not an alcoholic and I can stop if I need to and I can address it and yeah, sometimes I do drink too much and it's not good.

Kelli (33:26.823)
Yeah, some people's personalities flip, they change and it's not good. It doesn't mean that they're drinking every single night of the, that could happen twice a year.

Wendy (33:31.946)
No, it's not good.

Wendy (33:37.046)
Right. Or it could happen, you know, twice in five years. Right? I mean, I know myself, you know, there have been times, not that I so much act different. It's not like I get nasty, but there's times I've drank too much accidentally, believe it or not. I know that sounds crazy, but, and I just fall down. I fall down when I get drunk. I just fall down. It's not even like I fall. I just cannot stand up straight. So,

Kelli (33:41.053)
Absolutely.

Kelli (33:56.903)
Yeah, yeah, you're a faller when you...

Kelli (34:03.805)
Right. Right.

Wendy (34:06.766)
You know, I'm hurting. I don't drink every night. I don't get drunk. don't need to get drunk. My intention when I have a drink is not to get drunk. That's not my intention. That's actually never my intention. That's one of the things I try and talk to my kids about. You know, like the younger generation, they're like, why would you drink if you're not gonna get drunk? I'm like, what do you mean? Like you drink because you like it. You don't just.

Kelli (34:07.995)
And it's not every time you drink and you don't drink every night.

Kelli (34:22.962)
Of course.

Kelli (34:36.231)
Yeah, like when we were younger, like we drank beer, wine coolers, mad dog. Like they drink vodka, these kids. Yeah, like I was definitely not drinking vodka when I was younger. Like teenage, you know,

Wendy (34:42.168)
Yeah.

Wendy (34:46.072)
Vodka and Red Bull. Vodka and Red Bull.

Wendy (34:53.07)
No. Right. No. But they drink to get drunk. And that, listen, I hope it's a maturity thing. I hope it's something that, you know, they grow out of. But that, I feel like the younger generation that does drink, because there's a lot of the younger generation that doesn't drink at all. It's actually, I...

Kelli (35:00.391)
Yes, they do.

Kelli (35:13.979)
Absolutely. My daughter, my daughter's 21. She has no interest.

Wendy (35:17.014)
Right, and you know, I think it's interesting that there's really, it's kind of like the opposite end of the spectrum. Like that generation, a bunch of them have no interest in drinking, and the ones that do have the interest in drinking are just drinking to get drunk. And I'm like, I wish we could just find some. Right, can we get a happy medium?

Kelli (35:31.357)
Right. Yeah, like there's no happy medium. Yeah. But you know, the thing about Jasmine is she has this one story that she's holding onto. Like Jasmine, if you're giving me five examples of how Danny's been inappropriate with you while he's drunk, I might think, okay, she might be onto something. And wasn't it interesting how Janet on the after show said,

Wendy (35:47.905)
Right.

Kelli (36:00.519)
Jasmine's the one who called me and said, there's a problem. He's got a problem. He's an alcoholic. And then they show Jasmine and she's like, well, I don't think he's a full blown alcoholic. So who's lying? One of them's lying.

Wendy (36:04.246)
Yes.

Wendy (36:11.394)
I know, when she was... Right. Yeah, yeah. And you know what? That's what happened last season on The Valley with the the comment about Michelle and who said it and was it Zach or was it Michelle or was it like, come on, Kristen, right. Like, it's just, I don't know. I'm not a fan of Jasmine. I'm really not. I'm not a fan of Janet.

Kelli (36:31.219)
Kristen. Yeah.

Wendy (36:41.1)
Janet was on Watch What Happens Live with Jason. I do like Jason, but I mean, even Janet in every single poll, she got annihilated. She got annihilated.

Kelli (36:45.501)
I do too. I do too.

Kelli (36:52.083)
I know, and the one, what was it, the biggest pot stirrer? And she got that and Jason's like, wow, you ran away with it. And she was like, I know. And Andy's like, that's not a good thing. And doesn't the fact that Janet and Jasmine both have like saying, like Janet said, well, she said he's an alcoholic. And then Jasmine's like, I don't think he's a full-blown alcoholic. Doesn't that lead you to believe that they had a conversation prior to the season two filming where they were like,

Wendy (36:56.077)
Yeah.

Wendy (37:02.475)
I know.

Wendy (37:20.876)
Yeah, because, yes, because the fact that, first of all, they had the conversation about the inappropriate touching, right? They had that conversation, because that happened a while back, off camera. It happened a while back, and it was addressed, and they said that they were not gonna bring it up on camera. It was specifically said, because Danny apologized. And they said that, yeah, Danny, Danny, yes, Danny and Nia had said that. He had addressed it, Nia was aware of it, Danny was aware of it.

Kelli (37:20.935)
Maybe we can go with this.

Kelli (37:30.993)
Yeah. Off camera. Yeah.

Kelli (37:42.152)
I didn't know that part.

Wendy (37:50.446)
I said it wasn't going to be brought up on camera.

Kelli (37:53.233)
I'm sorry, if one of my friend's husbands sat me down, like grabbed my thigh and said, go get daddy a drink, I think I would laugh hysterically. Yeah. But I will say this, and I'm not a big Jasmine fan, I will say this, and I do think that there's something behind it. When she said, you know, I'm in a lesbian relationship, and sometimes men don't take that serious.

Wendy (38:03.5)
Mm-hmm, and go get him a drink.

Kelli (38:21.949)
Had I been married to one of his male friends, he probably wouldn't have done that. And I do think that there's a bit of truth to that. I do think that her being in a relationship with a woman may have made him feel more comfortable doing that to her than had it been Janet or Brittany, one of his friends' wives, male friend's wife. Yeah.

Wendy (38:44.344)
I agree, I agree with that. I agree with that. That is a valid point, but you said you weren't gonna bring it up and that's all you keep bringing up. I mean, yeah, it's episode six. And like you said, I think we've heard it every single episode.

Kelli (38:48.561)
Yeah.

Kelli (38:53.073)
Yeah, I didn't know that she said that.

Kelli (38:59.729)
And it's the same story over and over again. Like you got nothing else. And he pinched her girlfriend's ass or something like that. Which again, I don't think he would have done had it been a friend who was married to a guy. I don't think he'd be pinching someone's ass who was married to his friend who was a guy. Yeah. But that's all they got.

Wendy (39:01.94)
It's the same. It's the same story.

Right.

Wendy (39:19.146)
I agree. I totally agree. I totally agree. But I do know, I'm thinking about it, like last season when Lala was on and Jessie was there, there was an incident with Jessie touching Lala inappropriately. Do you remember that? There was some party and there was some tattooing going on and it's like she was waiting in line or something to get like a tattoo.

Kelli (39:38.983)
I do vaguely remember that.

Wendy (39:48.512)
And he was there. That was Jesse. That was Jesse. Yeah. And cause Lala has made, you know, a lot of comments about, you know, Jesse and Jax, like who was, who was worse. And she says Jesse's worse a hundred, a hundred percent. Because his, he's intentional. He's intentional. He's intentional with his malintence. You know, he says, I'm.

Kelli (39:48.915)
And that was Jesse that did it?

do believe it.

Kelli (40:05.585)
I think that's just because she knows...

Kelli (40:12.613)
I think Jesse is very smart. I think she's right. I think he's very, very, I think he's much smarter than Jax. I think they're both narcissists, but yeah, that's a good way to put it. It's intentional. I think Jax does, I don't think he's very smart at all, obviously. And he's just a selfish prick. Also a narcissist. But Jesse's calculated, can you believe the people who stick up for him?

Wendy (40:22.329)
yeah. Yeah. Yeah. His.

Wendy (40:29.29)
No, he's not. He's not.

Wendy (40:34.712)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (40:42.508)
No.

Kelli (40:42.707)
and don't like Michelle? I mean, you don't have to like Michelle, but Teddy drives me crazy with the Jesse thing. Teddy Mellencamp.

Wendy (40:45.272)
No.

Wendy (40:52.352)
Especially what was that podcast you told me to listen to with Michelle? Was it the Vilephiles? Yes.

Kelli (40:56.812)
my God, that's such a good interview. I mean, she really puts it out there.

Wendy (40:59.338)
Yes. I mean.

Wendy (41:04.748)
Yeah, I mean, I was team Michelle on this before I heard that, but then after I heard that, the things that he has done, I mean, you guys should listen to the Vilephiles, listen to that episode.

Kelli (41:12.615)
Yes.

Kelli (41:18.705)
And you know the other difference between Jax and Jesse? Jax will show his nasty side on TV. He has. Jesse won't.

Wendy (41:24.322)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (41:28.492)
Yeah.

Kelli (41:28.627)
The nastiest thing, I think, he's done. When he said to Janet, you don't have the capacity to play this game with me, or whatever he said to her, that was like, you saw it right there. Like, he's a crazy motherfucker, this guy.

Wendy (41:37.371)
Yeah. Well, I'm.

Wendy (41:44.748)
Well, the things that he said to Michelle, his wife. I mean, disgusting. I mean, he admitted that on the after show or on Watch What Happens Live that he regrets it and he's gonna have to explain it to his daughter one day, but still, it doesn't negate it. It doesn't. It just doesn't.

Kelli (41:47.075)
absolutely. Yeah.

Kelli (42:03.589)
He might not have to explain anything to his daughter one day because if he continues to act the way he does with the mother, at some point, this girl's gonna get hip to it. We all have kids who are now adults, young adults. They flip on you real quick. So if you think you're gonna play this game with your daughter, you're not. Because she's gonna get hip to it real quick.

Wendy (42:14.606)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (42:18.615)
Yes.

Wendy (42:23.948)
Yeah, they know.

Kelli (42:31.665)
And at some point she might be like, you know what? You were the problem. And I'm gonna go live with mom full time.

Wendy (42:38.582)
Yeah, and actually he's even said that Isabella is very smart. And even that whole scene with the, what was the toy that she wanted, that she looked all over for and it was in the refrigerator. And then she came and dropped it off.

Kelli (42:53.012)
was it a bear? I forget.

Wendy (42:54.648)
whatever it was, I don't remember what it was. But it was something, it was something that was important to Isabella. And she looked all over the house for it and she found it, it was in the refrigerator. And she brought it over to her daughter and her daughter was so happy. And then he asked about something else and she's like, yeah, I didn't have time to grab it. But this little girl is smart and she sees what happens and you could see that she definitely is gonna figure it out. She's gonna figure it out.

Kelli (43:04.744)
Yeah.

Kelli (43:12.071)
Yeah, like, fuck you.

Kelli (43:23.133)
Definitely. He's probably not even gonna have a chance to explain anything, because he's gonna be his own demise. He's gonna implode with her too, unless he changes his ways.

Wendy (43:24.206)
She can figure.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Wendy (43:34.22)
Yeah. I also really liked that Kristin was totally on Nia's side. I mean, when Nia told the story about how she grew up and she was homeless and she was living in her car, listen, she didn't have to tell that story. She just was trying to give you some perspective that she's not this perfect person, but

Kelli (43:41.735)
Me too.

Wendy (44:00.618)
She's grateful for everything that she has and this is how she lives her life now. And the fact that Janet then turns it into, well, I understand because I was in a relationship with someone who was an alcoholic and an addict and was and a drug addict and I was in it and I was like, what?

Kelli (44:16.935)
and a drug addict.

Kelli (44:22.245)
And thank God Nia said, like, that's a bold statement right there.

Wendy (44:26.988)
That is a bold statement.

Kelli (44:32.433)
When they said, who said it on the after show? Like basically they were making, and Michelle kind of co-signed it. Janet was making it as if Nia went into that dinner knowing she was gonna tell that story.

Wendy (44:45.486)
She said that on the after show. asked her that.

Kelli (44:47.473)
Yeah, and Michelle kinda cosigned it. And who else were they sitting with? Sheena, Sheena. It's like, what is wrong with you?

Wendy (44:52.94)
Yeah, Sheena was there. But Sheena didn't say any, well, would, yeah, she would like nod her head. I felt like she was. Yeah.

Kelli (44:59.377)
Yeah, and Michelle definitely co-signed it. I didn't like that at all. And then, did you see how Jasmine was apologetic to Nia to her face at that dinner? And then when she left, Jasmine did a total 180 and started talking shit again. Like, what are you doing?

Wendy (45:05.953)
No, I didn't.

Wendy (45:15.658)
Yes. Yes. Yes.

I mean, I like that Zach is doing the after show with Jasmine, because he keeps calling her out.

Kelli (45:25.937)
He does, which is very good. Which is very good.

Wendy (45:27.968)
Yeah. But I don't know. don't like Jasmine. I don't like that she's trying to take Nia down. I think that there's no reason for that.

Kelli (45:37.267)
Like, what's the end game? What do you want her to put her husband in treatment, like Jax? Like, what's the end game here? To humiliate them? These are your friends.

Wendy (45:43.736)
Right.

Wendy (45:49.356)
Right. mean, Brittany even admitted that she felt, because the whole thing kind of got started with Brittany. She admitted that, you know, she shouldn't have said that. I mean, she was in the midst of a crisis herself with her crazy husband and the rage texting and, you know, she overreacted. And she admitted that she was wrong. Nobody else admitted that they were wrong. Nobody else did.

Kelli (46:14.929)
No, no, no.

Wendy (46:19.222)
I don't know. I just don't like the way that they're coming after Danny and Nia's relationship, especially

Kelli (46:25.681)
Me neither. And now next week, something's gonna come out about Jason, right? That he doesn't wear his wedding ring.

Wendy (46:32.502)
Right, when he goes out. And Kristen's going to bring that up.

Kelli (46:33.339)
when he goes out.

Kelli (46:38.477)
great. Listen, I love Kristen this season, but.

Wendy (46:39.318)
I know. I don't know how Kristen... Yeah.

Kelli (46:44.379)
You know, she just gets a bad rap.

Wendy (46:47.18)
Yeah, she does. She does.

I'm surprised about that, that he doesn't wear his wedding ring.

Kelli (46:55.345)
I'm very surprised.

Wendy (46:56.59)
Because I see him as like, you know, the straight shooter guy. Like I see him as the voice of reason, the mature adult in the room. That's how I see him. Actually, out of all the guys, I see him as the mature adult in the room, right?

Kelli (47:00.785)
Yeah. Yeah.

Right. Right.

Kelli (47:11.447)
Yeah, like I find him very likable, not her, but like even on Watch What Happens Live. Some people are so funny though. like, they are the most boring couple. listen, I like, like, I like, you know, what's a good example? Like Nia and Danny, like to me, like they're not boring. They're just regular people. They seem to have a very nice relationship, no drama.

Wendy (47:30.7)
Right. No.

Kelli (47:40.627)
but I like watching them. Like when Richie and Kathy Wachile were on New Jersey. Low key, flew under the radar, seemed like a nice couple. I like that, you need that. We can't have all crazy shit going on, but Janet and Jason, they really are just dull. And maybe it's because she's so unlikable that I feel that

Wendy (47:51.692)
Right. Right. Everything doesn't have to be volatile.

Wendy (48:05.622)
It could be. It could be.

Kelli (48:07.121)
Yeah. Yeah.

I mean, like who are the Janet fans out there? Who's, why are we not calling her for her to get off this show? Like we did circa, know, 1998 with Shanna Doherty, like get Brenda off the show. Not 98, way before that, 91, 91, 1991. With our Teen Beat Magazine. Tiger Beat.

Wendy (48:24.014)
There you go, we're Tiger B.

I don't know. What else was going on that episode? We didn't see anything with Jax though, right?

Kelli (48:44.027)
I don't know, I'm trying to look here, so.

No, which was a nice change. Sheena made a cameo. yeah, Sheena and Michelle went on a hike.

Wendy (48:50.699)
It was a nice change.

Wendy (48:58.05)
that's right. But we haven't actually seen Lala on the show. We've only seen her on the after show, which I think is interesting.

Kelli (49:04.241)
Yeah, I don't think Lala has been on yet and we haven't seen Tom Schwartz yet. And he's supposed to be on, right?

Wendy (49:08.302)
yeah, and we see him all over the after show. Like, he's on the after show too. Him and La La and Sheena are on the after show all the time, right?

Kelli (49:13.011)
I'll take Tom Schwartz in any show. Tom Schwartz could pop up anywhere. Real Housewives of Atlanta, just throw him in there.

Wendy (49:24.448)
It's weird too that he's on the after show because like he hasn't, well, I guess the same with Lala. Like we haven't seen her either and she's.

Kelli (49:29.903)
Yeah, we haven't seen him yet, but hopefully we do. Jesse did meet with his life coach following a heated converse argument with Michelle, I feel like that life coach just falls in line with what Jesse wants.

Wendy (49:33.175)
Yeah.

Wendy (49:39.502)
yeah.

Wendy (49:51.02)
Yeah, the life coach was their marriage counselor at one point. Right? And now he's the life coach. And is he the one who got him to do the ayahuasca?

Kelli (49:53.893)
Yeah, same guy, right? Yeah.

Kelli (50:01.587)
I think that guy was bald. Was this guy bald? I remember that guy being bald because I actually thought he was very handsome.

Wendy (50:10.055)
I don't remember to be honest with you.

I mean, I think it was. I don't remember, though. I really don't.

Kelli (50:17.607)
I think it was.

Eric's yelling at me from the basement, we have to go.

Wendy (50:24.076)
All right. Well, we got to recap two episodes. That's good. That's good. Go enjoy your game. It is Memorial Day weekend down the Jersey Shore, so.

Kelli (50:27.667)
I know, I know.

Kelli (50:33.285)
It, yeah. And brick Memorial boys baseball is in the Southern, wait.

What is this? my God, I can't even think of what it is.

Wendy (50:49.014)
It's something, they're in a final, right? Okay. Okay, there you go.

Kelli (50:50.547)
third a championship game. Shore Conference, dear God. And they're playing RBC, Red Bank Catholic. We have no children playing in this game, but we know every single player on the team and we're gonna be rooting hard for them. And there's some pre-gaming involved people. So we're trying to get there early.

Wendy (51:03.8)
There you go, go memorial. All right, well have fun and thank you for watching and listening to We Wine Whenever. Bye.

Kelli (51:13.682)
Bye.