RHOM-Cruises, Cancer, and Clout-Chasing

RHOM-Cruises, Cancer, and Clout-Chasing

Podcast Summary: RHOM Season 7, Episode 3 – “Worst Wedding Ever”

This episode had everything — a courthouse wedding, a surprise celebration, and a drink-throwing disaster.

We start with flashbacks leading up to Marysol and Steve’s courthouse wedding, including touching moments, her emotional reasons for marrying, and a sweet ride on the back of Steve’s motorcycle. Marysol wore her mother’s bracelet and shared that with no children to care for them, legal protection between them was vital. She declared Steve the greatest thing to ever happen to her.

Elsewhere, Adriana feels slighted by Julia, believing she’s been pushed aside in favor of Marysol and Alexia. They clear the air — for now — and Adriana volunteers to throw a baby shower.

Guerdy and Kiki catch up at the stretch lab, where Guerdy learns about tension with Julia. Guerdy insists she was there for Julia during a cruise after Martina’s biopsy, but Julia felt used. This miscommunication brews into a full-blown storm by the end of the episode.

Lisa, grieving her father's passing, struggles with regrets while in Toronto with Jody. Meanwhile, Kiki shares her powerful backstory about being kicked out at 15, abandoned by her father, and raising her children while trying to build a relationship with the father who left her.

At Marysol’s surprise wedding dinner, drama quickly bubbles over. Julia and Kiki both show up wearing white. Guerdy brings up Julia’s cold behavior. Julia responds by accusing Guerdy of attention-seeking, calling her self-centered, and ultimately throws a drink at her in front of the group. Guerdy claps back with accusations of manipulation and self-victimization. Chaos erupts, with screaming, insults, and wine-soaked exits. The fight centers on who supported whom during Martina’s cancer battle — and who’s faking the friendship.

Meanwhile, Larsa stirs drama about Lisa’s boyfriend Jody, calling him controlling and possibly using Lisa for money. She shares a shocking close-up photo of his eyes that has the ladies gasping.

Despite the chaos, the evening ends with a toast for Marysol, cake, and a fleeting moment of peace.

On Watch What Happens Live, we meet Larsa’s new man Jeff Coby, and the audience overwhelmingly sides with Guerdy over Julia (85%) and Lisa over Larsa (84%). Also confirmed? Yes, Julia did get a facelift while Martina was undergoing chemo.

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Transcript

Wendy (00:01.392)
Welcome to We Won Whenever, I'm Wendy.

Kelli (00:03.807)
I'm Kelly.

Wendy (00:05.552)
We are talking about Real Housewives of Miami, season seven, episode number three, Worst Wedding Ever. I mean, I know, I know. So today's Marisol's wedding, Marisol and Steve's wedding day. You know, that's how the episode starts. But then we see three days earlier, Lars is talking to Preston about how proud she is of him.

Kelli (00:13.902)
And I could hear Marisol saying it

Wendy (00:33.441)
We see Adriana at the beach with I can't pronounce his name. Is it Amore? Amore? I don't know her French Amore.

Kelli (00:38.112)
Amari and he did not look interested at all when she took her top down.

Wendy (00:45.9)
He looked disgusted. I thought he looked disgusted. Right?

Kelli (00:47.318)
Yeah, he did.

Like even he, I think was thinking like, you're doing too much. You're doing too much, Adriana.

Wendy (00:56.74)
Yes, yes. Yeah. I don't know. I don't get that whole relationship thing. I think that that's what it is with Adriana. Everything she does is too much.

Kelli (01:09.228)
Yeah, I mean, it doesn't seem like a genuine relationship, right? But none of her relationship, even Frederick, even when she, you know. Yeah.

Wendy (01:17.572)
when she was married.

I don't feel like any of the relationships with the other women are genuine either at this point.

Kelli (01:25.664)
No, I do think Marisol and Steve though.

Wendy (01:32.09)
no, no, I'm talking about Adriana's relationship with the other women. Yes, yes. No, no, no, no, no, no. Yeah, no, no, no. I was just referring to Adriana with the other women. No, no. I think, yeah, I think everything about her is phony. Yeah. Then we see Martina's making banana bread for the boys and Julia keeps talking to her since she keeps messing up the recipe.

Kelli (01:35.276)
with the other women. okay. I thought you meant like their relationship with their husbands. cause yeah, Gertie's solid too with Russell. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're right. for sure. She's just a phony baloney.

Mm-hmm.

Wendy (01:58.5)
Then we see Alexia and Frankie go to Sea Spice because she wants to plan the surprise wedding celebration for Marisol and Steve, which I thought was so nice. I except for when she goes on to say that that's where she met Todd and that, you know, she picks this place. I mean, come on Alexia. So weird. It's so weird. I did look up that place online because when she was walking through it, I was like, this place looks really cool.

Kelli (02:07.021)
Yeah.

Kelli (02:17.304)
So weird.

Yeah.

Kelli (02:26.732)
It looked like you were on a yacht.

Wendy (02:28.556)
It did crazy expensive, crazy. But you know what they do have? They had this sunset hour, which would be affordable, like a happy hour, but sunset hour. I think if we ever get down to Miami, we should go there for the sunset hour. It would be a fun trip to go there for the sunset hour because it looked fabulous, this place.

Kelli (02:31.588)
really?

Kelli (02:42.638)
which would be a super fun trip.

Kelli (02:53.25)
Yeah. You know, I didn't know, I didn't know Miami had a big Cuban presence. Listen, I live in a bubble. Now I do from watching Real Housewives of Miami, before Eric and I got married, we took a trip to Miami. So what was it? 2001, the summer of 2001, before 9-11, before 9-11, the June, because we got married in November of 2001.

Wendy (02:55.065)
Wendy (03:01.478)
my god. my god, yes! Yes!

Wendy (03:17.934)
Okay, yep.

Kelli (03:23.092)
We, everywhere we ate, we had the most amazing Cuban food. Like I remember that, like we ate a lot of Cuban food down there and it was delicious.

Wendy (03:32.876)
It's got a very strong Cuban population. It definitely does. And it's always been that way. It's always been that way.

Kelli (03:40.416)
And I didn't realize it, but then the more I thought about it, my Aunt Rosie married a man who was Cuban. I think, I don't know if they got divorced or he passed away, I was young, but she would still go down to Miami to visit his family. I have to ask cousin Gina about that, because she'll know all about it. She took care of Aunt Rosie. But then it clicked too. I'm like, yeah, that guy was Cuban and his family was from Miami.

Wendy (04:05.838)
Yes, yeah. It is, yeah. And so when Alexia is talking about Marisol's wedding, she's like, know, she's like, had all these like weddings before and she's not been to any one of them. And she's like, and neither has anyone from her family. It is odd, but then you think about it, like, she doesn't have that many people in her family. Like she's got her brother and like she has no children of her own. Her parents have passed, right?

Kelli (04:07.522)
So funny.

Kelli (04:21.87)
Which is odd, right?

Kelli (04:31.618)
I always forget that she doesn't have any children. So I guess maybe it was just she and her brother and he has a son who was there. But yeah, I mean, you know, maybe her brother isn't in a position to, you know, yeah, like take off to Scotland when she wants to have her third wedding. That wasn't really a wedding.

Wendy (04:39.788)
Yes, yes.

Wendy (04:46.308)
travel like she does.

Wendy (04:51.202)
Yeah. Well, it was, it just wasn't a legal wedding. Like all the weddings were weddings, right? So then Alexi was talking about how all the girls know about except for Lisa. She texted her, but know, Lisa never gets back to her. And then so she calls her and it turns out that she's in Canada because her father passed away. I, you know, I feel bad for Lisa, that whole situation.

Kelli (04:55.978)
Right, right.

Kelli (05:15.202)
Yeah, me too.

Wendy (05:17.124)
So then we go, it's the day of the wedding and we see Marisol, she's getting her makeup done and her hair done. And I have to say, I thought Marisol looked absolutely stunning for her wedding. I loved her dress, I loved her hair, I loved her little veil, I loved her shoes, I loved everything about her wedding look. I really did.

Kelli (05:35.02)
I totally agree with you. She was like very 60s, very like Goldie Hawn and laughing. And I loved it.

Wendy (05:40.664)
Yes, she looked so, and I was thinking about that. I was thinking about that with Marisol. As much as I say I don't like her, she actually is one of the few that generally dresses age appropriate. Her style is, I love her style. I love her style. And after hearing her talk about why her and Steve are finally,

Kelli (05:44.918)
Adorable.

Kelli (05:55.949)
Yes.

She's very fashionable. Yep. Yep.

Wendy (06:08.462)
you know, getting married legally. You know, it kind of made a little bit more sense to me of like why she is the way she is and why she acts the way she does. And I don't know. I think I'm gonna like Marisol this season. And I think that this may be a reason for it. I don't know.

Kelli (06:10.787)
Yeah.

Kelli (06:25.229)
Yeah.

You know, my biggest problem with Marisol was how she treated Dr. Nicole. And I saw a clip, she was on, Betches by Bravo or whatever that, yeah. And, he said, do you feel a loss without Dr. Nicole on the show? And she said, that's a shady question. And he said, no, it's not. I'm, asking you, do you think Dr. Nicole is missed from the cast? That's a shady question. No, it's not. You're making it shady by saying that. She wouldn't answer the question.

Wendy (06:38.682)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (06:58.01)
So she had some kind of beef with Dr. Nicole for some reason. I don't know what it was.

Kelli (07:02.666)
I honestly think it had more to do with Alexia. Like she was defending Alexia because something between Nicole and Alexia. exactly. Yeah. How about no helmets when they were on the motorcycle? Florida really is like the wild wild west, isn't it? Anything goes, man. Motorcycle, no helmet, drinking a beer, with your gun in your pocket.

Wendy (07:10.832)
I mean, she's a ride or die, so that could be the case. That could be the case.

Wendy (07:19.64)
Yeah, I guess it really is it really is

Wendy (07:28.248)
Yeah. You just, yeah, you just go do you in Florida. Ain't no one stopping you. Right?

Kelli (07:32.128)
You do you, man. Yeah. It must be very liberating to live down there. God bless you, Florida.

Wendy (07:39.876)
Yeah, right. Except you know what? It's a little crazy though, because I mean, every time I go to Florida, even Miami or the West Coast of Florida, my God, there's like the worst drivers in Florida. It's, yes, yes, yes, yes.

Kelli (07:51.586)
Worse than Jersey?

Kelli (07:56.046)
I gotta tell you, I might have to start taking a different route to work. I cannot stand driving. All right, you know what? I'm not even gonna say it.

Wendy (08:02.36)
Okay, we'll skip this. Yeah. All right. So go back to Steve and Marisol. I thought it was interesting how they met. So she was over at that house that he lives in, hanging out with her friend swimming. She must have left her bathing suit at the pool house there. And she gets a call from her friend that the new owner said that her bathing suit was there. So she texted him and is like, you know, when can you come? Can you come on Friday night? And she shows up and she never left.

Like, do you think that's real? Do think she made that up? You think she knew he was buying it?

Kelli (08:33.548)
think that there's probably, the truth is probably in there somewhere. This might be like the Hollywood version of it, but listen, I love it. I think it's a great story.

Wendy (08:42.638)
Yeah, because she was there swimming when he came to look at the house because the house was for sale. So he saw. Yeah, right. He saw her. She saw him. let me leave my bathing suit in the pool house. I don't know, but I was here for it. I like it. I like it. I like it.

Kelli (08:46.028)
Right. I mean, how quick was that purchase?

Kelli (08:58.432)
Me too. It's a cute story, so let her go with it.

Wendy (09:03.64)
Marisol also said that there's a lot of money on the line between the two of us. So, and he's got children. So I guess she wanted to, you know, make sure that they were covered, which there's nothing wrong with that, right?

Kelli (09:12.546)
Right.

Kelli (09:16.118)
Right. Yeah, and she's got nobody to take care of her or something. You know what I mean? Like she doesn't have children, you know. So I do too. So maybe, you know, obviously she has her brother and his son. Hopefully they would step up. But now, you know, she's hopefully got his sons as well.

Wendy (09:21.322)
Right

I worry about people like that. I worry about people like that.

Wendy (09:33.508)
Right.

Wendy (09:39.586)
Yeah, so she's got her person and it's legal. So she says that she's the happiest that she's ever been. And I love that. It looks like it is. Like she really looks like she's genuinely happy.

Kelli (09:41.547)
Right. Right.

Kelli (09:52.653)
Me too.

Yes, for sure.

Wendy (09:58.096)
Then we see Adriana's meeting up with Julia at the Love Cafe. As soon as Julia gets there, she's like, you didn't call me. And Adriana's like, well, you could have called also. She's like, oh, god. Then Adriana admits that she's disappointed and upset that she found out about the babies the same time everybody else did, because she thought that she was closer with Julia. she thought that she should have. listen, if they were closer, I think that she should have told her before she.

Kelli (10:26.286)
I totally agree. Last season she would have told her first. Right?

Wendy (10:29.72)
Yeah. I mean, yeah, they were besties, I thought.

Kelli (10:33.772)
Yeah, she was at the farm, Adriana was at the farm, they were having that party, you know. Yeah, I think that there was a shift. think that Julia started hanging with Marisol and Alexia and Adriana feels a certain way about it.

Wendy (10:40.004)
Yeah.

Wendy (10:50.328)
Yes, and Adriana even says that she thinks she's closer with Alexia and Marisol. Like she admits that that may be part of the reason. But then she asks her if she can throw her a boy, a boy baby shower, which, Julia says yes. You know, I think that's nice, but I don't know that it's. Yeah, we do. No, I mean, one is I think a year and a half and the other one is three. They're still young, yeah.

Kelli (11:10.104)
Do we know how old the boys are? Are they babies?

Kelli (11:17.318)
okay, but they are kind of still babies. Like there's still things that you can get at a shower other than just clothes for them. Yeah.

Wendy (11:23.692)
Yes, yes. mean, yeah. I just think the word shower's a little weird. That's all.

Kelli (11:32.878)
I'm a one shower person. You get pregnant for your first baby, you have a shower, you're done. There are families.

Wendy (11:38.252)
Me too, me too, I only ever had, right, right, right, right. I know, I know, they call these sprinkles, they do these other things, yeah, no, no, I agree. Yes, and especially if there's a change in sex, then gosh, then you need, yeah.

Kelli (11:51.082)
A shower for every pregnancy.

Of course. Or a big gap in between. Listen, you have a kid, people come, they give you presents. One time. One time.

Wendy (12:00.142)
Yes, yes, I know, too.

Wendy (12:07.268)
That's it, just one time. That's it. I agree. I feel the same way. I feel the same way. I think we are too. I think we are too. I think that, yeah. we sure will. They'll let us know. They'll let us know. Julia's telling Adriana about how she's not that close with Gertie anymore. And we'll let that.

Kelli (12:12.15)
I'm glad we agree on that. I think we're in the minority though.

Well, we're going to find out in the comments section.

Kelli (12:26.318)
Mm.

Wendy (12:34.532)
be right now. And then we see Gertie and Kiki are at the stretch lab.

Kelli (12:35.704)
Yeah.

Did you ever go to one of those?

Wendy (12:40.194)
I didn't, but I wanna go. There's one in Howell. There's one in Seeger. Yep, I know it would be so beneficial, but it is expensive. Yeah, it's expensive. It's even more expensive, I think, than the massage. So I just go and get massages. that's kinda how I feel, you know? So they're at the stretch lab, they're, you know.

Kelli (12:43.064)
There's one in secret. Eileen used to go...

Kelli (12:50.251)
Is it?

Kelli (12:56.808)
I think I'd take a massage over that.

Yeah. Yeah.

Wendy (13:07.8)
Gertie's, you know, she's saying she's trying to feel better before she decides whether or not she's gonna have the surgery. Cause at this point she still hasn't completely decided and they're, you know, they're catching up. And Gertie says, you know, Alexia has been really good. She's checked on me this whole time, you know, to see how I'm doing. And Kiki is telling her the problems that the ladies are having with her. Now,

Kelli (13:30.84)
Because she, Gertie clearly didn't know that they all went out for John, to celebrate Johnny, Alexia's friend,

Wendy (13:34.807)
Right.

Right. Right. And I just, I didn't feel good about that whole scene, to be honest with you. I didn't feel good that it was Kiki. I didn't feel good that it was Kiki bringing it to Gertie. I didn't feel good that that's how Gertie's finding out. And I just thought...

Kelli (13:47.255)
with Gertie?

Kelli (13:56.671)
I don't

Wendy (13:59.865)
we're gonna say

Kelli (14:00.928)
I don't think Kiki communicated it well. Like Kiki said that the girls, you weren't invited and the girls think you're too much. Did they say that? I don't think Kiki communicated the way the girls are feeling about Gertie, to Gertie very well.

Wendy (14:11.598)
Right. I know.

Wendy (14:24.12)
And I just, did they say that when they were there? Like, I...

Kelli (14:27.008)
No, I don't remember them saying that. So if anybody out there heard it, let us know. I don't remember. I just remember Alexia saying there were two people not invited, Gertie and Adriana. I'm not really sure why Gertie wasn't invited. Obviously Adriana is not going to be invited because they're trying to ice her out because Marisol and her don't get along. It's very clear, but.

Wendy (14:32.597)
I don't either.

Wendy (14:47.928)
Right. I mean, the only thing I can gather is that they're drinking the Julia Kool-Aid and not even getting Gertie's side of the story. And I feel like Kiki was doing the same thing. Like, and I don't know, I just didn't, I did not like that way that whole thing went down. And honestly, I feel bad for Gertie. I really do. I mean, this woman is fighting cancer.

Kelli (14:55.81)
Yes.

That's what I think it is.

Kelli (15:03.811)
Yes.

Kelli (15:16.963)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (15:18.01)
She's got two children, she's trying to live her life, and you're saying that she's too much? I mean...

Kelli (15:21.186)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (15:25.132)
And Gertie, like obviously we don't know her personally, but just knowing her from the show, she's always had a very big personality. She's a big personality, Gertie.

Wendy (15:34.298)
Right. Right. Right.

Kelli (15:39.118)
and she's fighting cancer right now, you're coming to her with this bullshit? Julia, after your wife just went through this? But then we we learn how Julia was through Martina's treatment. So it is kind of on brand.

Wendy (15:55.96)
Right, so then the next, yeah, yeah. So then Gertie starts telling Kiki her version. You know, I got a call from Julie the morning. my God, I need your help. you please come? She's like, she was distraught. She needed emotional support. Now when she's telling us this story, we don't know the whole story, but I'm still like, my God. Like she's like, Julie is saying,

Wendy (16:24.46)
Gertie says what Julia is saying ain't what it ain't. So she's not saying what Julia is saying, but what she's saying is you don't know the whole story. And even then she's still not saying it. She's saying, know, when Gertie went there, she felt like, you know, she was a seat filler and he's like, well, maybe tone it down a bit. But at that point, we still don't even know the whole story. Like we don't know the whole story, right?

Kelli (16:50.124)
Right, and then Kiki tells Gertie that the ladies think she's acting extra. Again, we never heard them say that, and Kiki's like, she's not letting me talk. Well, she's defending herself.

Wendy (16:54.809)
Right.

Wendy (17:02.328)
Right. Right.

Wendy (17:07.29)
So then Julia said, never once did she ask me, how are you doing and how is Martina doing? And I'm like, she's saying this in her confession. I'm like, but Julia, did you ask her how she was doing? She's going through cancer herself. Are you asking her? Are you asking how Russell and the kids are doing? No.

Kelli (17:20.65)
Exactly! Right!

Kelli (17:27.638)
It's a grasp. Julia's grasping this season. I don't know why.

Wendy (17:32.649)
Yeah, and then she said, Julia said, see with my two eyes how she acted with others. I don't feel comfortable with her. You don't feel comfortable with her? What?

Kelli (17:43.278)
the way, why are we not seeing these babies? Why are we not seeing these boys?

Wendy (17:47.374)
I know, I think she said that she doesn't want them in the public just yet. She wants that, which I think is fine. I mean, they're adopted, you know. She said that in the first episode.

Kelli (17:53.504)
Okay, I just was wondering. But it's very odd that you're on a reality TV show and you clearly have no plans on leaving the reality TV show and your wife wants to be on the TV show just as much as you do. It's very clear to me that Martina is loving every bit of this. And you choose to adopt two little boys that you don't want in the public eye. But your job right now is to be on a reality TV show.

It's like Kyle. It's like Kyle Richards. Like, you can't pick and choose what you put on your reality TV show. Well, I guess they are.

Wendy (18:30.34)
think when there's I think when there's children involved you can I do I do I think children are

Kelli (18:34.872)
It's just an odd thing to do at this point in your life. They're both older, these women.

Wendy (18:39.376)
Well, as Martina said, know, we're old enough to be grandparents. Like we could be these children's grandparents and they could. I mean, they're not lying. And I will say, I mean, you said that you think Martina clearly wants to be on the show. I think every interaction with her is so awkward. She seems so awkward every time I see her on the show.

Kelli (18:45.016)
For sure. Yeah. No.

Kelli (19:00.716)
I agree, but I think she likes it. I think she's just an awkward person, but I think she likes it. Like when she went at the party, at Lisa's party, where she was like, well, you gotta talk to her, you gotta talk to her.

Wendy (19:07.344)
Mm.

Wendy (19:13.047)
Right.

I don't know. So then we see Lisa's in Toronto and she's with Jodi. Her brother thinks that she should say something at the funeral. She doesn't feel comfortable talking at a funeral. I thought Jodi did a great job trying to encourage her, you know, so she doesn't regret it.

Kelli (19:30.168)
Yeah.

Wendy (19:36.65)
She also says once she got to Toronto and she started going through the things with her, I guess with her brother, she started seeing the things that her father had saved and she never realized like how much her father really loved her. And she feels like she missed out on so many opportunities. But I don't think that that's her fault. I mean, I don't, you know? Right, right.

Kelli (19:54.463)
She said he was an alcoholic.

mean, thankfully they reconciled before he passed. Then, because if they hadn't, then I could see her feeling a certain way about it, but they reconciled.

Wendy (20:03.348)
yeah, I mean, I could still, yeah, I agree. I don't think that she needs to harbor that. You know, she tried, she tried. Then we see Kiki and her daughter Summer, who is adorable.

Kelli (20:10.104)
Yeah.

Kelli (20:17.666)
That girl wanted chocolate ice cream and you were not about to give her anything else.

Wendy (20:21.59)
anything but it I was there, I was right there with her. I'm like, I would only want Chalka too, Summer. I'm right there with you, girl. I want the same thing. She really was so cute. We get to meet her mom, Kiki's mom. We find out that she brought her over from Haiti because, you know, I guess she didn't really have it great over there and her father had left and she doesn't really have a relationship with her father and, you know,

Kelli (20:27.487)
She was so damn cute.

Wendy (20:51.376)
She believes that, and you can see her mother strongly believes that family is family and your father's your father, regardless of what he did. And Keeg is like, treated you. Yep, she's like, Keeg is like, he treated you like crap. And she's like, that is still your father. Yeah, it really is, it really is. So she says how he's coming over from Haiti and she's making plans to pick him up at the airport.

Kelli (20:59.8)
Yep. You still have to respect them, she said.

Kelli (21:08.014)
He's still your father. It's amazing.

Wendy (21:21.484)
And it's been 10 years that she hasn't spoken to him. And then I remember when they brought it up, remember he kicked her out when she was 15 years old. And it wasn't even him so much as, I mean, it was him, but it was the new wife that didn't want her around because she was modeling. And they thought that she was doing porn because she was modeling.

Kelli (21:34.382)
15. Yeah.

Kelli (21:40.877)
Yep.

Kelli (21:48.332)
Right, because she was wearing bikinis or whatever. And the stepmother said, I want her out of here. And he was like, you gotta go.

Wendy (21:51.256)
Right.

Wendy (21:56.43)
I mean, I can't even imagine. can't imagine. I give Kiki a lot of credit. I give her a lot of credit. mean, yes, she's seeing what Lisa's going through. She does want her father to get to at least know her children. Shamar is 18. He's never met him. Summer, you know, is only four, so there's still an opportunity. I give her a lot of credit, because I don't think I could do it. I don't think I could do it.

Kelli (22:18.328)
Yeah.

Me too.

Kelli (22:24.834)
I don't think I could either.

Wendy (22:26.338)
I don't, I really don't. I don't.

Kelli (22:28.642)
Yeah, but that's how, but obviously that's how she was raised because her mother's saying, he's still your father, you have to respect him.

Wendy (22:33.412)
Yep. Yep. Yep.

And you know, the interesting thing, bringing it back to Dr. Nicole, you know, Dr. Nicole had all those problems with her father too, right? And she was trying to make amends and her mother was kind of saying the same thing, like, you know, and you know, he wound up passing. But Dr. Nicole, at least she has that, that at least she was able to, you know, she had tried and they were in a good place when he had passed, you know?

Kelli (22:46.082)
Yeah.

Kelli (22:50.594)
Yeah, she was.

Kelli (22:56.16)
Yeah.

Kelli (23:04.418)
Yep. Yeah.

Wendy (23:06.512)
It's interesting that all of this is happening in Miami with these fathers, right?

Kelli (23:11.584)
Yeah, yeah, with the fathers from other countries. But that's the thing, like, it's just so different than us, you know, how we grew up.

Wendy (23:15.149)
Right.

Wendy (23:20.312)
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Kelli (23:24.332)
You know, we're, let's face it, if you grew, if you're our age and you grew up in America, you were very privileged. Our generation, Gen X. I mean, some may not have had as much as others, but come on, we, you know, for the most part, well, I guess I shouldn't say that, for the most part.

Wendy (23:36.536)
Yes.

Wendy (23:44.386)
Yeah, because I mean, you know, yeah, I mean, there definitely is. mean, there's a lot of fathers that weren't around. There's a lot of fathers that weren't around.

Kelli (23:46.19)
There's, I'm sure, yeah, there's, yeah.

Kelli (23:54.84)
There were a lot of files, but I mean, like we weren't, you know, I don't know. I feel like I'm going to say something wrong, so I don't want to say anything else.

Wendy (24:02.274)
Yeah, I think we'll move on from that. Should be something I gotta edit out anyway. Okay, the day of Marisol's, it's the day of Marisol's surprise celebration and we get to meet Marisol's brother and her nephew are there. Larsa gets there and asks like, what's going on with you and Todd? And Alexia's, she's like, I had a breakdown.

Kelli (24:09.004)
I think that's my thing, yeah. I'll tell you off air what I was thinking, but no.

Wendy (24:31.596)
the other week when she was having that dinner with Johnny. And she once again says the ball is in his court and Larsa's like, why is, like what's going on with her? So Kiki shows up, she's wearing white and then Julia walks in wearing white also and Larsa is upset that they're wearing white. when Alexia saw her, the first, when she saw Kiki she's like, good, you're wearing white. And so Larsa said something. Listen.

Kelli (24:41.762)
Bye.

Wendy (25:01.188)
This is not her wedding day. This is her wedding celebration. This is not her first wedding. Marisol does not care what color you're wearing. Am I missing something here? Like, why was that even a

Kelli (25:09.506)
Right. Right. No, Tess has been to a lot of weddings recently and she won't even, I'll send her dresses, I'll be like, my God, isn't that so nice? She's like, it's too close to white. It's like a light blue dress. I'm like, no it's not. But she's like very, she's like, cannot wear anything that resembles white to a wedding. But she's going to a typical wedding, you know.

Wendy (25:26.002)
Ha ha ha ha!

Wendy (25:34.479)
Right.

Kelli (25:35.418)
so some people take that so seriously, but I agree with you. This wasn't her actual wedding. It was a wedding party in Miami. Like I feel like white is perfectly fine. long as Marisol didn't mind, why do Alexia and Larsa give a shit?

Wendy (25:47.034)
I do too.

Wendy (25:54.52)
Yeah, I thought that was a little bit odd. So then Kiki says, speaking of Gertie, she feels like Julia is brainwashing you.

I'm like, why are you bringing this up now?

Kelli (26:09.836)
Yeah, Kiki's really doing the work this season,

Wendy (26:12.112)
She really is doing the work. Then we see Marisol and Steve and Garrett are on the way in the car to the dinner and Marisol has the patch on her eye.

Kelli (26:23.372)
my God. I mean, if that's true that she, listen, I couldn't wear contacts for a month when I had a sty. It was the worst thing. I couldn't wear makeup, but I mean, if she really had a sty, the eye patch was a great idea. was like, damn, I didn't think of that.

Wendy (26:40.556)
I know, I actually thought of you when she said it was his style. was like, Kelly, go to use the damn eye patch.

Kelli (26:42.766)
I

I could have used the eye patch. I'm not a creative person. She clearly is.

Wendy (26:52.622)
And more poor Marisol, when she gets there, she's like, my God, I look like a schlub. Like, I thought this was just gonna be a dinner. I'm like, first of all, you do not look like a schlub.

Kelli (27:00.424)
I think she was not surprised at all. She knew what was going on. You do?

Wendy (27:02.668)
No, I think she was totally surprised. You don't think she... Yeah, no, she was totally surprised. She would... No, she was totally surprised.

Kelli (27:09.902)
I

Wendy (27:11.524)
You're not.

Kelli (27:12.48)
I'm not, but I never do.

Wendy (27:14.434)
I know and I always do.

Marisol says Alexia nailed the guest list. She's really happy that she forgot someone's phone number and her name starts with an A and of course she wasn't gonna invite her. Steve's kids are all there and Marisol says, okay, we're gonna call me mommy and his son's like, maybe step mommy? And then his other said, maybe ma? And she's like, ma, like that sounds like a hillbilly.

Kelli (27:29.707)
now.

Kelli (27:46.862)
Just call her Marisol.

Wendy (27:48.684)
Yeah, I think Marisol will be fine. I was surprised how young his sons were, right? His kids seem kind of young, right? I mean, I don't know how old they are, but they do seem kind of young.

Kelli (27:50.552)
Yeah.

Kelli (27:55.778)
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Kelli (28:03.468)
Yeah, but he's probably 50. think he's in his 50s or you think he's older?

Wendy (28:06.83)
I think he's older. I think he's in his 60s. I could be wrong, but I think he's in his 60s. I mean, he looks great. I think he looks fabulous, yeah. But know, men can have children older, so I don't know why I'm surprised, right? Yeah. So then the ladies sit down and Gertie says, you know, I want to hear about Milan. And Larson says, well, we get there and we're having a conversation about my ex. And she said,

Kelli (28:09.187)
Okay.

Yeah. Absolutely.

Kelli (28:19.148)
Yeah, maybe he just started late.

Wendy (28:37.648)
did she say?

Kelli (28:39.79)
She said that she and Lisa were making progress. And then the last night Jodie goes crazy. And then she shows a picture.

Wendy (28:43.436)
Yes, yes.

Yeah. Right. So she shows that picture. First of all, I didn't think there was anything wrong with his eyes.

Kelli (28:54.062)
There's nothing wrong with the picture, there's nothing wrong with his eyes.

Wendy (28:57.21)
There was nothing wrong with his eyes. And even before he showed the picture of his eyes, I don't know if you picked up, but Julia's like, what did his eyes look like?

Kelli (29:06.454)
I mean, come on, Julia. You're so stupid. You're like the worst actress ever.

Wendy (29:08.43)
I was like, what?

Wendy (29:15.648)
Really? mean...

Kelli (29:17.784)
So clearly the picture had already been circulated to certain people and then it was known that they were gonna bring this up at this party.

Wendy (29:24.656)
It was, yeah.

So when this picture comes out, right? This is what I have decided has happened. You were right. Last week, Larsa is the one that planted the whole story about the AC. Larsa wants to spin this story that Jodie does AC. I'm not even gonna say the word. I'm not gonna say the word. He's not doing it. Because that's what kind of shit friend that you are.

Kelli (29:41.262)
100%.

Kelli (29:48.418)
Yep. No. Cause he's not doing it.

Kelli (29:56.748)
Right, because your boyfriend literally got caught on camera doing it. So there's no disputing that. Nobody had to plant that. Nobody had to plant that. Whoever put it out, know, page six, whatever, whoever put that out, they dropped that bomb. Not any of your coast, know, co stars, whatever. I hate calling these people stars, but.

Wendy (30:01.7)
Yeah.

Wendy (30:09.582)
Yeah.

Wendy (30:19.325)
I was so disgusted when I saw that. I was just so disgusted.

Kelli (30:23.97)
There's, and I actually wrote, it looks like maybe the flash was in his eyes and then Gertie said it. But it wasn't even like, it wasn't like this, like they weren't enlarged his eyes, they weren't, he didn't even look surprised.

Wendy (30:30.81)
Right.

Wendy (30:39.28)
I mean, it's not like they were Ramona crazy eyes. Like there was nothing about his eyes that I would say, all right, I mean his eyes looked open. There was nothing.

Kelli (30:50.24)
Now, this is a witch hunt. This is a witch hunt.

Wendy (30:56.304)
I mean, Alexia's like, maybe there's some medical condition, like maybe something with this thyroid. Like, no, no.

Kelli (31:04.702)
No, doesn't even, because they're not bulging. And then Lisa brings up that she's worried about him wanting Lisa's money. And then they flash to the car, but it seemed to me like the questions he was asking was more out of concern. Like, did you send that email? Because you know, sometimes I tell you to wait because I wish somebody would tell me to wait to send some emails and text messages.

Wendy (31:07.279)
No.

Wendy (31:30.702)
Yeah, I mean, I'll be honest with you. told you, I mean, I don't know if you heard that episode, the podcast where she was talking about her new company Splitwell. But he's working with her on that. So it was about the business. Right, that's what I'm saying. They're in business together. They're in business together. He's like an IT guy, I think. I think he's into IT. So if they're in business together and they're talking about business, of course.

Kelli (31:39.02)
Right, I haven't, but you told me about it. Yeah, so that's probably what it was about.

Wendy (31:59.728)
She, you know... I think he's controlling her. She'll never take a business call without him on the phone. What?

Kelli (32:02.402)
Yeah, Lars is grasping here.

Kelli (32:12.75)
Yeah, like if they're in business together, then that makes perfect sense.

Wendy (32:17.518)
Yeah, and then Gertie's like, well, what happened? Like, did you come home on the same flight? And she's like, no, I left. And then Julie's like, well, did you invite her tonight? And then we find out that, you know, they find out that she's, you know, she's in Toronto, that her father passed.

Kelli (32:35.224)
Right. At least Alexia and Gertie were, you know, I felt like they were sticking up for Lisa.

Wendy (32:42.576)
I did too and as a matter of fact, think even towards the end or at some point, Alexia is like, I didn't like that Larsa was doing that with Lisa not even being here. Like, why was she saying that? And she's right, she shouldn't have been. Yeah, and did Larsa even know that Lisa was in Toronto? Like, does she even know that her father passed? Probably not. Yeah.

Kelli (32:53.933)
Right.

Larsa's a mess. She's just a mess.

Kelli (33:04.078)
I don't think she'd care. I don't think she'd care. I think she would have had the same conversation had she known.

And then what was up with Julia and Marisol's husband Steve?

Wendy (33:16.718)
Well, don't think, well, I think, you know, this happened just before the whole kind of craziness. I think she was really, really, really intoxicated or possibly even on something to be quite honest with you, because her, everything that she was doing was so overreacting. Everything, everything was.

Kelli (33:17.432)
Like how extra she was with him.

Kelli (33:26.285)
Yeah.

intoxicated.

Kelli (33:34.111)
I agree with you.

Kelli (33:40.642)
So talk about extra. She was way extra.

Wendy (33:44.066)
Yeah, I mean, the thing with Steve, everything was just weird.

Kelli (33:50.03)
I totally agree.

Wendy (33:55.096)
So they all congratulate Marisol and Gertie says, Julia has a problem with me. And Alexi and lady say, think you should talk to her about it. And that's when Julia's over there being extra with Steve. And so Kiki calls Julia over and says, I think you two should really talk. And Gertie says, well, do you want to have like an individual or with the group? And Julia starts yelling, hey, you're producing. You're not producing.

I was like, what is she talking? I honestly had to rewind it three times. I was like, what is she talking about? I'm like, what is she? I'm like, what are you talking? She's not producing, she's just saying. Do you want to have this conversation in private, the two of us? Or do you want this to be a group conversation? That's all.

Kelli (34:28.27)
Absolutely. I couldn't understand a word she was saying.

Kelli (34:36.919)
Right.

Right, was a totally perfectly fine question to ask.

Wendy (34:42.658)
And even, I felt like everyone at the table, their face was reacting like I was reacting, like what is going on?

Wendy (34:54.244)
Then Gertie says to her, how many of those have you had? She's drunk. We're not going to have this conversation. You're screaming like a hyena. And that's when Julia even gets louder. yeah, I am a hyena. I have a farm. And then Gertie's like, well, you've been talking shit behind my back all summer.

Kelli (35:02.187)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (35:12.194)
This is almost a year from the cruise. Yeah. Yeah.

Wendy (35:14.608)
Ten months, right? Ten months, she says. Ten months.

Gertie gets up and says, goodbye to Steve. She's like, Julia's yelling, you were in my suite in my jacuzzi talking badly about Alexia and about the group. I'm a hyena. And Gertie says, go sit down. You're disgusting. Marisol's, can you please just sit down? And Gertie says, she spent all summer talking to everyone but me. what was she talking about? She was talking bad about her.

Kelli (35:50.85)
And this is off camera. This is when they weren't even filming.

Wendy (35:51.054)
Shh. Right. They were not filming. They were not filming. it doesn't honestly, none of it makes sense to me. It is so over the top. None of it makes sense to me.

Kelli (36:03.19)
Well, it does if she was trying to get in with Alexia and Marisol. Not that they have a problem with Gertie, but if Gertie was close with Julia and Adriana, they don't like Adriana. So if Julia's like giving them like dirt, like we went on this cruise, we did this, and you know, Alexia and Marisol, they're like, tell us more. So maybe that was like her in to get in with them.

Wendy (36:30.392)
I don't know. I know. So Julia stands up and she's like, well, why would I talk to you? You're so self-centered. I took you on a boat. Gertie said, you asked me to go on the boat. Marisol said, what boat? Like Marisol has no idea. So apparently no one was telling Marisol about this whole story, right? Gertie said, sit your ass down, girl, bye. And then Gertie says, we were all invited on this cruise and this is where we find out there were three itineraries. She chose itinerary one.

Kelli (36:30.656)
I know it's a reach, but...

Kelli (36:47.415)
Right.

Wendy (36:59.898)
Her and Russell went, they had a great time. They show a picture of her and Russell. She got home, her and Russell got home. She's unpacking her bags. Julia calls her up, hysterical. I need you to come with me. She's like, I didn't even unpack my bags yet. you know.

Kelli (37:17.262)
So Martina couldn't go because of a health situation. So instead of staying home and taking care of your wife, you were panicking that you didn't have a plus one to go on the trip with. You call Gertie, she agrees to go, and now you're twisting it and making her look like a villain over it. Is that right?

Wendy (37:33.294)
Yeah.

Wendy (37:37.872)
Yep. then, yeah. that's, and even Gertie's like, I'm like, what's wrong? Like she's hysterical. She's like, what's wrong with Martina? Like, she's like, I will tell you when we get on the ship. She's not even telling her what's wrong with Martina. And that's when Gertie's like, manipulator. I say, okay, I'm going to go. Like, you know, I'm going to go.

So.

Gertie says to Julia, be quiet. And Julia says, don't tell me to be quiet. And then she throws her drink twice. Like she didn't get it all out. So she throws her drink. Why is it getting kinky?

Kelli (38:13.26)
Right. And Kiki's telling Gertie to like, that she should leave. Why should Gertie leave? She's not being physical. She's not throwing a drink on anybody. Somebody should tell Julia to leave.

Wendy (38:14.958)
Are you ca-

Again, yeah.

Wendy (38:24.057)
No.

Yes. Yes.

Kelli (38:28.639)
Somebody should have gotten Julia out of there. She was highly intoxicated or under the influence of something.

Wendy (38:34.532)
Yeah, Julia stands up and says, you're a liar. Martina had a cancer situation. And meanwhile, Steve's at the bar and he's like, they're going to kick us out of here. Like everyone is looking. I mean, they are acting like lunatics in this place.

Kelli (38:46.952)
And if your wife had a scare with her health, stay the hell home with her.

Wendy (38:52.686)
Right.

Kelli (38:55.566)
Do you know that Jen Fessler was on that cruise?

Wendy (38:58.48)
I heard today that she was on the cruise with, yeah, with Gertie and Julia. Yeah. Did you hear that? Yeah.

Kelli (39:05.036)
Enjoy ya. Yeah, so we need, yeah, we need some deets on that, Jen Fessler.

Wendy (39:12.228)
Yeah.

Kelli (39:13.878)
Yeah, I think Julia was out of control. And I think, mean, to me, she looks like, she looks like the bad guy here.

Wendy (39:26.788)
Yeah, mean Marisol, Larsa and Alexi are all sitting there and they're like, I don't like this. Like what's going, like they have no idea what's going on. And honestly, us as the viewers really have no idea what's going on either. Just that Julia is acting like a lunatic and Gertie is trying to tell her side of the story.

Kelli (39:39.405)
No clue.

Wendy (39:49.932)
So Gertie says, you know, don't pull me. I'm not that person. Because Kiki was like trying to get her to go. And she's like, I'm not that person. Like, no. I'm not going to throw anything. I'm going to get my side out here. Julie was like, she wanted to be there because Captain Sandy was there. And Gertie's like, I already saw her the night before. And then you show a picture of her with Captain Sandy. Like, I don't really think that's

Kelli (40:04.492)
Right.

Wendy (40:15.802)
Gertie gives a shit about Captain Sandy to be quite honest with you. I mean, nothing against Captain Sandy.

Kelli (40:17.684)
Exactly. why are we trying? No, but are we trying to make it like Captain Sandy's a bigger star than Gertie and Gertie needs to be like starstruck over her? No. I mean, quite honestly, if it were Captain Lee, I would think so. I'm only kidding.

Wendy (40:26.062)
Yeah!

Wendy (40:30.071)
Now.

Wendy (40:34.294)
Nah, I don't know. I mean, maybe Captain Jason.

Kelli (40:37.646)
Ugh.

Wendy (40:40.088)
Okay. He is, he is. So then Guerdy like saying, is low class, the lowest of low class. This is all because of Martina. So now I'm starting to think, Julia said, don't you get involved in my family, right? And then Guerdy throws out, just like you had a facelift when Martina was in New York having chemo.

Kelli (40:40.802)
He's so fine.

Kelli (41:05.272)
Right.

Wendy (41:06.628)
Gertie said, you waited almost a year to have this conversation. Gertie said, Julie said, I didn't wait. I didn't want to have anything to do with you. And then Kiki keeps telling her to leave. I think, this is what I think, and I could be totally off, but I think Julie and Martina were fighting and having problems. And she didn't want to show up without Martina. So she's going to say it's a cancer scare. And...

Kelli (41:26.391)
I do too.

Wendy (41:36.142)
Because the babies come, right? The two babies come. They're in two different countries when the babies come. They already told us that. One is in Prague and one is in, I don't know where the hell they were, Germany, I don't know. But they were in two different countries when they found out that they were getting the babies. I think that they were having problems. I think that they had a fight that morning.

Kelli (41:55.606)
I totally agree. think that Julia has let the fame go to her head and she's accusing Gertie of it. I don't think Julia wanted to sit this cruise out. I think she's the one that wanted the publicity, the paparazzi, all the things, but she's saying Gertie did.

Wendy (42:13.808)
Yeah, and Gertie didn't need to. She had already done the one before. She wanted to be home with her husband and her sons.

Kelli (42:16.928)
Exactly.

Kelli (42:21.198)
She's got two kids and a husband.

Wendy (42:25.826)
I don't know. This whole scene, it just kind of blew me away. It really did.

Kelli (42:32.462)
I don't know how somebody can look at this and not think Julie is the bad guy.

Wendy (42:37.88)
No, and I'm surprised she didn't put something up on social media like she did the week before.

Kelli (42:45.4)
Well, probably because everybody laughed it off and were like, too little, too late. Like, you still look like a jerk.

Wendy (42:47.248)
Or maybe her publicist, maybe she has a publicist, maybe her publicist reached out to her and said, do nothing. And she actually listened.

Kelli (42:55.436)
Right. Right. Right.

Wendy (42:59.802)
Kiki is saying to Gertie, you they want us to leave and you know, she's not leaving. So then Kiki says, listen, she goes over and says goodbye to Steve and she says to Marisol, you know what, I came in here dry and I'm leaving here all wet. In her confessional, she does say that if someone throws a drink at me, you know, I say my point and I leave. Okay, that's what you do. I don't think what Gertie did was wrong. I think her staying was absolutely fine. I think that she was not the one acting like the lunatic and

Kelli (43:21.166)
That's what you do.

Kelli (43:28.872)
Why should she leave? If they're gonna ask anyone to leave, and they didn't ask anyone to leave, but they should have asked Julia to leave because that's getting physical throwing a drink on someone. That's getting physical. She didn't put her hands on her, no, but, and if she had, they both would have been, or she would have been suspended from the show, you know, same thing like Danielle and Jennifer Aiden. But throwing a drink on someone isn't that far off.

Wendy (43:30.256)
Yeah.

Wendy (43:39.958)
Right, right. Yes! No.

Wendy (43:50.243)
Right, right.

Wendy (43:54.678)
No, no. So then Larsa's like, listen, we're not gonna fix this problem tonight, but I wanna say something, we're here for Marisol. So Marisol's like, ha. So then they come out with the cake and the champagne and they toast to Marisol and Steve. And that's kind of where it ends. But then did you see on Watch What Happens Live, Larsa and Kiki were on?

Kelli (44:05.437)
thanks.

Kelli (44:18.776)
Honestly, I had to turn it off. I think I dislike Larsa that much. I had to turn it off.

Wendy (44:25.378)
So, Larsa's new boyfriend was there. His name is Jeff Kobe. He's a former... No, I mean, I don't know if he's young or not. I can't really tell. He's a former NBA player. how young? I mean, he does look young, but he's a former. He's not currently playing. No, he doesn't play.

Kelli (44:33.998)
he's a young NBA player, right?

Kelli (44:41.454)
Kelli (44:46.478)
but he still plays. I mean, he's not playing it, but he was in the NBA, now he's not.

Wendy (44:51.97)
He was, he was, yes. She says that they've been dating for seven months. Andy asks if you also have sex five times a day. And Larissa said, I don't wanna answer that, which thank God.

Kelli (45:06.519)
Yeah, because nobody cares.

Wendy (45:08.342)
Andy asked Kiki if it's true about Julia getting a face look during Martina's chemo and she said yes it's true.

Then some of the questions that Andy asked, whose side are you on? 85 % of the people were on Gertie's side.

Kelli (45:25.816)
Who are these 15 % that are on Julia's side?

Wendy (45:29.104)
I don't know. Whose side are you on, Larsa or Lisa? 84 % were on Lisa's side.

Kelli (45:35.885)
and Lorsa was sitting there, huh? Interesting, interesting.

Wendy (45:37.228)
Yep. Should Lisa have unfollowed Marcus when Larsa asked? 91 % said yes. Okay, who cares?

Kelli (45:45.57)
Yeah, did she ask her to though? Or did it just become a thing when she realized it was still going on? I don't know why. There's no reason for Lisa to follow him. If Joanie wants to follow him because they're friends, that's one thing, but Lisa's not friends with him, so just unfollow him. I do agree with that. I don't think you end a friendship over it.

Wendy (45:48.579)
I mean...

Wendy (45:52.472)
I think it just became a thing.

Wendy (46:01.644)
No, right. I mean, she did. She did unfollow him when it became a thing. She's like, yeah.

Kelli (46:09.11)
Yeah, like, okay. Do you remember everybody you follow and who they've dated and broken up with? Right.

Wendy (46:15.056)
No, I don't. don't. The next question was, should Juliana have told Adriana the baby news before the group? 89 % said yes.

Kelli (46:26.029)
Yeah.

Wendy (46:26.704)
The whole time, and watch what happens live, my next notes are, Kiki is the voice of reason here, and the looks that she keeps giving Larsa are everything. Like, the looks that she was giving Larsa, the whole time she was there, I was like, oh, thank goodness. And when she's talking about, oh, God, that's the other thing. When she's talking about Lisa and her dad passing, Larsa's still maintaining that, like, Lisa should have not been there. And she's still...

Kelli (46:35.554)
Really?

Kelli (46:40.728)
That's funny.

Kelli (46:54.722)
What, at the fashion show?

Wendy (46:56.15)
Yeah, and she's still maintaining that, you know, that her family's everything and she would walk to Chicago, you know, for her family. And I'm just like, you can't judge other people's relationships with their family. Like you just can't do that. And then someone in the audience, I didn't write it down, asked her kind of the same question and she kept saying the same thing. She kept saying that what Lisa, like she still has it out for Lisa. And this was just, it's very bizarre. It is very bizarre.

Kelli (47:09.047)
No.

Kelli (47:20.814)
It's very bizarre.

Kelli (47:25.912)
They think it makes good TV, but it's just making you look like an asshole. And I really, she just tries to talk like Kim Kardashian. I really think she purposefully, purposefully, purposely, I'm not even drinking tonight.

Wendy (47:42.704)
I think you had it purposefully. I think that was it.

Kelli (47:44.662)
Yeah, tries to sound like Kim Kardashian when she talks. It's the most bizarre thing I've ever seen.

Wendy (47:52.644)
I don't know, the whole time I was watching it, I just couldn't stop looking at her thinking she is so, everything about her is so fake looking. Her boobs are ridiculous. Her face, her boobs, they're just ridiculous.

Kelli (48:00.952)
He jacked her face up,

Kelli (48:08.537)
ass.

Wendy (48:09.712)
It's just, it's whatever.

Kelli (48:12.652)
Yeah, she jacked herself up.

Wendy (48:15.404)
Andy also asked like if she thought that like they would get married him her in this and she's like, maybe and he didn't say no. And he looks honestly just like Marcus. He really does. Yeah. The beard and yeah, he looks like him. Yeah. And Andy says, you obviously have a type and Lars is like, good looking. goes, well, yeah. And

Kelli (48:29.038)
Does he really? I'm gonna have to look this guy up.

Wendy (48:45.156)
basketball players. And she's like, She's like,

Kelli (48:46.828)
Right, obviously. I mean, she said it. She's like, I'm in the NBA world. Like, she said it.

Wendy (48:54.426)
Yeah.

Kelli (48:56.472)
So she can't deny it. She said it herself.

Wendy (48:59.728)
She can deny it because that's what she does. She just spews lies.

Kelli (49:03.822)
She is kinda like Teresa.

Wendy (49:06.126)
I'm not a fan, I'm not a fan, I'm not a fan. And I'll be honest with you, did you, I'm sure you did listen to Dolores and Tamara talking about this episode.

Kelli (49:07.596)
I'm not a fan either.

Kelli (49:14.796)
I just started it, so I'm not all the way through it.

Wendy (49:18.21)
So Tamar's friends with Larsa. Dolores is like, know, Larsa up, especially when talking about the family and you don't tell other people how to do family. And Tamar's friends with Larsa, Tamar text lost her, Tamar called Larsa and she admits that.

Kelli (49:36.974)
So is she defending her? Because nothing bothers me more than when Teddy and Tamara are friends with somebody and they're defending them. And I will say this about Dolores, because sometimes she really bothers the shit out of me. But when Tamara brought up the video of Teresa, well, when Teresa shut it down on that shut off on the news station, Dolores was defending Teresa, but not as bad as I thought she would have.

Wendy (50:05.552)
But listen, we both said this too. That was a shitty question. I mean, that guy was an asshole.

Kelli (50:10.754)
But did you hear what Tamra said? Tamra said this guy's known to do that.

Wendy (50:15.492)
I did hear Tamar say that, but who says that? mean, is he known to do that?

Kelli (50:17.216)
Yeah. I don't, she, talked to somebody, one of the producers, guess, her old producer, you know, Dave Quinn. She loves to, you know, say how she, I'm going to talk to Andy later today. I'm going to, nobody gives a shit to Amber. But she did say that somebody told her that that, that news cat, that news anchor is known to do stuff like that. So somebody, here's, so somebody should have prepped Teresa and warned Teresa.

But if she really fired all her people, there was nobody to warn her and tell her.

Wendy (50:51.056)
Well, how can she pay her people? She's not getting paid herself.

Kelli (50:53.838)
Exactly, exactly. Yeah, yeah. So it's a, catch 22 with that thing. anyway, was Tamra defending Larsa?

Wendy (50:56.186)
So.

Wendy (51:02.06)
Yeah.

Wendy (51:06.84)
Yeah, she was kind of. Yeah, she wasn't. And she even said, listen to the whole episode, but I like that Dolores didn't back down. And I also, was thinking about it today, because I've been listening to them a lot lately. I think Dolores is getting better at doing the podcast, because before she was over talking Tamra a lot. mean, she still does a little bit. But again, that's a Jersey thing, because we...

Kelli (51:29.314)
Yes, she was.

Wendy (51:34.608)
We do it to each other too sometimes. Yeah, I think she's gotten better and she says like she loves doing it. Like she said on this podcast that she's like, like now she knows all the, like she's like, now she's a fan. Like she wasn't a fan of all these shows before, cause she wasn't watching them. And I think it's kind of funny that like the reality star is now the fan. Like, and it's true. Like, you know, I don't know.

Kelli (51:35.822)
Totally. Totally. She was bad with it for a while though.

Kelli (51:52.908)
Right.

Kelli (51:58.348)
Yeah, and she's good at it. She is good at it. Sometimes, you know, when she's defending, you know, and going on Kim D's podcast, Delores, get your shit together and do not stoop to that level again. Do not go back on Kim D's podcast. And don't you dare let Frank Catania either. Let the bottom feeders, Jacqueline Larrita and go on it. Not you. You're too good for that, Delores. I stand by that.

Wendy (52:02.788)
She is good at it.

I know this and we don't have to agree with-

Wendy (52:23.236)
Okay, I want you to put that clip up there. I want you to put that clip up there and you gotta tag her.

Kelli (52:28.204)
Yeah, we're tagging her. Stop it, stop it with the Kim Day. Bottom feeder, too good for that. Yeah, we love you, we love you. You're too good for that. And so is Frank Catania.

Wendy (52:30.008)
Okay, all right, okay, okay. And we love you, Dolores, we do.

Wendy (52:40.366)
We love Frank too.

Okay, I think that's it for Miami. So until next time, thank you for watching and listening. Please subscribe. Bye.

Kelli (52:51.118)
Bye.