RHOM-Secrets, Scissoring, and a Coffee Maker

RHOM-Secrets, Scissoring, and a Coffee Maker

RHOM S7 E19- Reunion Part 2

🎙️ Podcast Summary

The Miami reunion Part 2 was pure chaos from start to finish — emotional, scandalous, and jaw-dropping.

The episode opens with Julia dropping a massive bombshell: she and Adriana once slept together. What starts as shock and laughter quickly turns into a tense, emotional showdown. Julia claims Adriana blackmailed her for years, using their secret to control her and threaten to expose her to Martina. Adriana denies blackmail but hurls accusations that Julia cheated with a “Haitian mortician” and a cop — complete with motel champagne and a coffee maker.

Lisa, Larsa, and Guerdy look on in disbelief while Andy tries to untangle the mess. Julia insists Martina knows everything and that she only confessed to release herself from years of psychological pressure. Adriana accuses Julia of being a liar, a cheater, and an imposter. Things spiral until Adriana storms off calling Julia a “dirty little whore.”

Backstage, the ladies gossip nonstop — Alexia and Kiki probe for explicit details, while Lisa can’t stop laughing at the absurdity. Eventually, Julia admits they were “intimate,” but not scissoring — and Adriana claims it was just “heavy petting.”

Later, Adriana gives Julia a literal red heart in a box, saying she “gave her heart” and Julia ripped it out — a dramatic yet oddly tender moment amid the chaos.

The tone shifts when Kiki opens up about reconciling with her father and choosing celibacy, and Lisa reflects on losing her dad. But it’s short-lived — soon the focus moves to Alexia and Stephanie’s “alpha energy” feud. Stephanie defends herself, saying women with wealth shouldn’t be judged for enjoying success, while Guerdy points out the group’s classism issues.

The reunion wraps with lighter questions about Larsa’s breakup with Marcus, unfollow drama, and a hilarious mention that “even ChatGPT knows who Larsa is.”

A wild ride of confessions, betrayals, therapy-level tears, and total insanity — Miami delivered every single minute.

Transcript

Wendy (00:01.176)
Hi, welcome to Wee Wine Whenever, I'm Wendy.

Kelli (00:04.331)
I'm Kelly.

Wendy (00:06.488)
We are talking about Real Housewives of Miami, season seven, episode number 19, reunion part two. Whoa, that's all I can say is whoa.

Kelli (00:14.814)
Mm-hmm. could not agree with your well more. This is a lot to digest.

Wendy (00:22.68)
So it was, and when they dropped the bombshell at the end of last episode, I said, there's gotta be a bigger one coming. And boy was I right.

Kelli (00:33.77)
Yeah, I did notice that Marisol definitely knew that Julia was gonna say this because her face when Julia said it was all telling. She definitely knew she was gonna say that and so therefore Alexia knew.

Wendy (00:48.66)
Yeah, mean, and listen, those two Marisol is is in with the producers. It is very, it is very, very obvious. And before we break this down, I will say this, if they get rid of Gertie, if Gertie does not come back next season, I may stop watching this.

Kelli (00:55.864)
She's the puppet master.

Kelli (01:11.23)
I'm right there with you.

Wendy (01:13.966)
But the only way I would continue to watch it is if our listeners and viewers want me to watch it and break it down, then I will watch it for them. But for me, I will not watch it for me. I will not do it. I will do it for our listeners. But if they get rid of Gertie, I am so aggravated with Bravo and Andy about how Gertie is being treated. I am.

Kelli (01:27.981)
Me neither.

Kelli (01:41.526)
because he's not calling them out on it at all.

Wendy (01:44.042)
No, no, no, he's not. we'll get, and yeah, and we'll get to where it happens because he he brushes it off and it aggravates me. It really aggravates me. We start out kind of where we left off with Julia dropping the bombshell about her sleeping with Adriana and, or Adriana, whatever her name is, Adriana, Adriana, and she's laughing.

Kelli (01:46.924)
He's letting them get away with it.

Kelli (01:56.13)
Yes.

Kelli (02:11.692)
I know everybody calls her something different, but I guess maybe it's just like a dialect thing, like, you know, yeah.

Wendy (02:13.774)
I think so. She's literally laughing at it, you know? She admits it happened before the friend engagement and Lisa's sitting there saying, makes no sense. Julia said she was ashamed and embarrassed and that Martina knows. So Lisa says, well then why are you bringing it up then?

Which is kind of what I said before, not, you know, last episode, not why are you bringing it up? But like, what does this have to do with anything? This has nothing to do with anything that we were talking about.

Kelli (02:42.669)
Yes.

Kelli (02:51.318)
Right, except that Julia says that she brought it up because she was being psychologically abused by Adriana.

Wendy (02:59.394)
Yeah, yeah. And Gertie and Lisa and Adriana, all the ones that are on the same couch over there, and even Stephanie, because Stephanie's on that couch too, they're all shocked at this, right? Larsa jumps in and says, you guys are being insensitive, let her talk. What? And Andy's like, well, I would like to hear this. okay. So Julia says, know, when Adriana came,

Kelli (03:24.333)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (03:28.896)
into my life four years ago, I was in a horrible state. I was not in the best place in my marriage with Martina. It wasn't great.

Kelli (03:38.072)
And she said Adriana knew she was in a bad place.

Wendy (03:41.614)
She was also grieving the departure of her daughters.

So Adriana said, yeah, you know, I did, like I did know this. And Julia said, you know, I trusted you. And Julia said, I felt like I was muzzled by Adriana. I was afraid of everything. She controlled my friendships. No, no.

Kelli (04:02.848)
No. Yeah, she blackmailed her. She was blackmailing.

Wendy (04:06.198)
Right, yeah. Andy says, because you were worried that she was gonna tell Martina or the women and Julie said, yeah, she was blackmailing me. Lisa gasps, literally gasps with her mouth open. I'm like, she kept telling me you're here because of me, you owe me your paycheck. And then they cut to that scene where Adriana at the Art Basel is saying it was unseen, but she.

Kelli (04:30.808)
She did say, she did say, I'm the reason you're in this group.

Wendy (04:34.25)
She did. And she probably was the reason she was in the group. I mean, I think that that's probably true.

Kelli (04:39.661)
But I mean, don't you think as Martina's wife, you would have gotten a spot on the show anyway? Like Adriana was just a friend of at this point. if, I feel like if Bravo wanted you, Bravo wanted you. Why wouldn't they want you? You're Martina's wife.

I don't know. mean, I don't, we saw Adriana say it, so there's no way she can say she didn't say it. But personally, I feel like Julia's giving her too much credit. Like, I think Julia would have been on the show no matter whether she was Adriana's friend or not.

Wendy (05:01.738)
No, right. And she didn't say she didn't say it. She didn't.

Wendy (05:13.102)
I mean, it could be, but I think maybe she's the one who introduced her to the group. I don't know, like who knows?

Kelli (05:13.132)
I don't know.

Kelli (05:17.206)
Yeah. Yeah.

Wendy (05:23.198)
Andy says to Adriana, you slept with Julia? Like he's questioning it. And Adriana said, well, many times, many times, I sleep with her in the same bed. And then Kiki gasps, like again, with her mouth open. Andy said, so you had sex with her in the Hamptons? And she said like, no, I don't. I don't have a dick. you know, I don't have a dick. And Lisa's laughing hysterical.

Kelli (05:45.304)
Which is a little insulting to lesbians everywhere, isn't it? I mean, I know what she's saying, but it's like...

Wendy (05:48.589)
Well.

Wendy (05:51.966)
I don't know that it's insulting to lesbians. Honestly, that response to me, what I got from her is her idea of sex is intercourse. That is Adriana's in her mind, intercourse is sex, right? That's what I got from her. And Andy said, you can have sex without a dick. And Adriana said, not really. And then Stephanie's like, well, it's called scissoring.

Kelli (06:03.564)
Right, right.

Right. Right.

Wendy (06:20.394)
Adriana said, well, we slept and we slept together and we kissed. You know, never scissored anybody. So as soon as she said that, like I never scissored anybody, that's, you know, even when she said the dick thing, in her mind, like she didn't have sex with her. She didn't.

Kelli (06:35.607)
Yeah.

Right. She said there was heavy petting, which, you know, we all know what that means.

Wendy (06:43.512)
Well, they didn't because they wanted wanted a explanation.

Kelli (06:46.53)
I think, yeah, well, they were just pushing for more details, which thankfully we didn't get because we don't need them.

Wendy (06:50.018)
They re yeah.

Wendy (06:54.292)
No, we don't. We don't need them. And then, but then Adriana brings up the whole thing about Julia's changing her name to Julia, from Julia to Julia, that she's a spy. I'm like, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. I was here with you this whole time until you threw the spy thing out and her changing her name. I was like, what?

Kelli (06:56.817)
Mm-mm.

Kelli (07:12.417)
Thanks.

Kelli (07:17.544)
my God. totally agree. was a moot point. Julia to Julia.

Wendy (07:23.502)
Absolutely. But then I think it's very interesting that the first person, Andy, and the only person Andy really asks is Marisol, like what her reaction was.

Kelli (07:32.876)
Yes, unless he asked the other ones and they just didn't show it, but yeah, it looks like he only asks her.

Wendy (07:39.596)
Yeah, and she said, know, she believes like, yeah, like a one night thing. And she also, said, well, do you believe Adriana would hold it over her? And she's like, yeah, I believe, I believe. Right, exactly. And then Andy asks the question, who here thinks Adriana and Julia had an affair? And then the ladies start asking like for clarification on affair, like clarify, like what does that mean? Like, do they slept together? Julia's like,

Kelli (07:53.688)
Of course she's gonna say yes.

Wendy (08:08.748)
Julia's whole couch raises their hand. They all believe it, right? And then Lisa and Gertie are like, you know, they don't really because, and then Larsa starts saying to Lisa, you know as well, you know, trying to get Lisa to change her answer. And Lisa's like, listen, Julia's married, Adriana's single. I mean, you know, to say that is really, you know, and then Kiki jumps in.

Kelli (08:11.128)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (08:28.492)
Yeah, exactly.

Wendy (08:36.364)
Well, listen, hold on people. Some people maybe have an open relationship and Lisa's like, well, do you and Martina have? And she's like, no, no, we don't. But Martina does know now. I told her six or eight months ago. This happened, right, not four years ago.

Kelli (08:52.914)
Mm-hmm. So she didn't tell her when it happened. But now we know why, because what else Adriana dropped?

Wendy (09:02.562)
Yeah.

Wendy (09:07.67)
And Adriana is like, listen, this was, and I agree with her, this was totally, you know, she knew she was gonna tell, Martina knew she was gonna bring it up at the reunion. And Adriana was like, yeah, cause this was all planned. And it was all planned. It was, and like you said, Marisol and Alexia knew about it. They knew about it. Kiki didn't know about it, you could see by her reaction. Stephanie did not know about it, you could see by her reaction. I'm not sure about Larsa. no, they,

Kelli (09:18.84)
For sure. For sure this was all planned.

Kelli (09:26.04)
100%.

Kelli (09:33.728)
Yeah, and I don't think Lisa and Gertie knew either. I'm sure Larsa knew. I'm sure Marisol and Alexia told Larsa.

Wendy (09:40.247)
No, Lisa and Gerty definitely did not know. They were totally shocked. Stephanie, I know Stephanie's reactions were awesome.

Kelli (09:43.864)
Stephanie didn't know her reactions were so good

Wendy (09:52.938)
Andy asked, you know, why is it important for you to say this, you know, tonight? And Julie said, well, because I feel like there's so many misconceptions that I couldn't speak my truth. I needed Adriana to hear from me that I did not ditch my best friend. Wait, you're trying to make up with her by telling this? Seriously? I mean, how convoluted is that? Like that makes no sense.

Kelli (10:09.024)
Right. Right. Right.

Wendy (10:22.208)
And this is why she could not be the godmother because of what happened. Okay. I mean...

Kelli (10:32.546)
So Adriana says Julia was in a bad place and was cheating on Martina with a Haitian mortician. And then she had another lover that was a cop. I mean, when she said the Haitian mortician thing and then she said that you had to buy him a coffee machine, I'm like, where did that come from? Why did she have to buy him a coffee machine?

Wendy (10:44.076)
Yes.

Wendy (10:51.504)
That was...

that was the bombshell of all bombshells. And you knew that that was a bombshell because first of all, Julia didn't look surprised, but did you see Alexia and Marisol's face and Kiki's face? Everyone's face, everyone's face except for Julia's face. And Julia, she didn't give a surprised face and she didn't deny it. She didn't deny it.

Kelli (11:04.929)
Yes.

Kelli (11:08.705)
Yes.

Kelli (11:14.818)
She never denied it. And I love that Andy's only question or first question was, why did you have to buy him a coffee machine?

Wendy (11:23.182)
Exactly, exactly. And she's like, well, that I don't know. is not true. you know, that was honestly, that is the best reunion moment of all time. Of all time. Of all time.

Kelli (11:38.591)
I agree. thought that was, mean, because it's just interesting to me that did Julia not think Adriana, like Adriana had this information, did she not think she was gonna say it? Because I'm sorry, I don't think there's anything wrong with Adriana spouting that out because Julia just shared intimate details about Adriana's sex life on that stage. So.

Wendy (12:02.081)
Right, 100%.

Kelli (12:04.81)
You cannot now turn around. It's like, if it's good for you, it's good for me. Sorry.

Wendy (12:10.86)
And that's exactly what Adriana said. Listen, I had no intentions of ever sharing this, but now you've opened that door. So I'm gonna put everything out there. Yeah, I did know your marriage was in a bad place and you were sleeping with a Haitian mortician.

Kelli (12:26.68)
buying them coffee machines.

Wendy (12:27.662)
I still want to know about the coffee maker. You had to pay for the hotel, had to pay for the champagne, and then you had to get... I am a coffee maker. I don't get it. I sort of...

Kelli (12:32.44)
For sure.

Kelli (12:38.562)
Sounds like you were getting the bad end of the stick here, Julia. Sounds like you were the sugar mama in this situation. But I'm, you know, and I text you and cousin Gina about this, I'm starting to believe that this is why Julia's daughters have an issue with the adoption. Clearly, and nobody's marriage is perfect, but if you, if there has been a history of infidelities in this marriage, those girls must have seen a lot.

Wendy (13:07.725)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (13:08.564)
and maybe don't want these young boys to go through the same thing they went through.

Wendy (13:15.242)
Yeah, absolutely, absolutely.

Kelli (13:19.052)
That would make more sense than whatever bullshit story Julie is trying to give us about the girls having a problem with the adoption. That they weren't involved. I'm sure it's this.

Wendy (13:31.66)
I mean, the other thing is, and I don't know if it's true or not, but I did see that supposedly Martina is contacting an attorney.

Kelli (13:40.522)
I think that's an AI thing. I don't know if that's true, right? Yeah, I think that's an AI post. Me too.

Wendy (13:42.794)
I do too. I hope so. I mean, I hope so because of the boys. I mean, seriously, because of the boys. Like you've now brought these two innocent boys into this mess. It's a mess.

Kelli (13:53.164)
Right.

Right.

Kelli (14:01.932)
Yep. Yep. So did Martina not know about the Haitian mortician and the cop?

Wendy (14:09.654)
Well, know, Julius says that she did, but I doubt that she did.

Kelli (14:16.568)
I doubt she did too.

Wendy (14:18.976)
I doubt that she did. And she said her girls know everything. And she said, right. Yep.

Kelli (14:24.504)
Yeah, right. So that's my point right there. Why? Why do your daughters know about your infidelities? Remember, was it last season or the season that Larissa said to her, I heard a rumor that you were kissing a guy in a club. Well, clearly that rumor was true, I'm sure.

Wendy (14:40.948)
probably the hate could have been the Haitian mortician or the cop could have been a cop

Kelli (14:42.392)
Could have been the Haitian Mortish. Or the Gah-

I mean, it's crazy.

Wendy (14:52.846)
And Adriana says, listen, you have a pattern of cheating, you're a liar, and you're a cheater. I 100 % agree with her.

Kelli (14:59.692)
Yeah, and she's like, you cheat on your wife and I'm the bad guy? No. Adriana is single. I mean, yes, it was disrespectful to Martina, but she's not in a relationship with Martina.

Wendy (15:03.17)
Yeah, right.

Wendy (15:12.398)
Yeah, right, exactly. And she's like, I told Adriana in confidence and now maliciously she's trying to shame me. And Gertie said, she's always a victim, which is 100 % true. She's always a victim. Adriana said, you have on a mask, you're not who you say you are. You are promiscuous and you cheat on your wife. And listen, it's obvious. We see how flirty she is, how she kisses.

Kelli (15:19.82)
just like you just did to her five minutes ago.

Kelli (15:26.636)
Yeah. Yeah.

Kelli (15:40.236)
Very flirty.

Wendy (15:41.351)
I mean, we see it every episode. We see it.

Kelli (15:44.022)
Yes. Yes.

Wendy (15:47.446)
And then Andy says, you know, it's like, let's go to a break. But before we go to the break, you know, I want you and I want Julia and Adriana to think about, like when we came into this, you said you were gonna try and find a way back to each other. He had that conversation with Adriana. He did not have that conversation with Julia. And Adriana said, well, that was before this came out. There's no way that they're gonna find their way back to each other. There's no way. No, I mean, I believe that Adriana went there.

Kelli (16:11.32)
And why would she want to? Why would Adriana want to?

Wendy (16:17.282)
hoping that they could make up. But after Julia did that, there was no way that they're gonna make up. There's no way.

Kelli (16:17.442)
Yeah.

Kelli (16:25.09)
They weren't gonna make up anyway because Julia wants to be in with Marisol and Alexia. This is very clear. And now she is. We saw her at the virtual reality awards. She was up their ass. She looks at them with this gaze in her eyes. Like she's looking at Elvis. It's fucking weird.

Wendy (16:41.537)
Yeah.

Wendy (16:46.562)
Yeah, it is, it really is weird. It is. Adriana says, yeah, until this promiscuous one trying to make me the bad guy, Adriana gets up and says, I would never go for you. You're a dirty little whore. And then she moved into the pink light. she's like, all right, she's in the pink light. We gotta go on break. I'm like, okay. So then as they're walking out, Julia and Alexia, Andy's there and Andy's asking her all these questions.

Julie's saying she felt horrible for four years. She couldn't speak her truth. Andy's like, well, did you sleep together more than once? And Julie says, no, we slept together once. And then we fooled around at the Versace mansion. And he's like, was that Alexia's bachelorette party? And yes, it was. And Julie said, I didn't say it to spread gossip. I never betrayed Adriana. Absolutely you did. Right. She said, I still love her.

Kelli (17:41.292)
You just did five minutes ago.

Kelli (17:46.27)
you have a very strange way of showing your love.

Wendy (17:47.242)
I'm like, well that, yeah, I guess you still love Martina too, all the cheating that you did on her. And he's like, is Martina gonna be upset when she sees this? Julie said, well, she knows, I told her, he goes, she knows, and what did she say when you told her you were gonna say this? Well, she said, Julia, like, why do you have to say this? Like, you don't have to put this out there. And Julie's like, no, no, I need to tell the truth. No.

Kelli (18:10.776)
Yeah, poor Martina's like, I'm gonna be humiliated on national television now.

Wendy (18:15.146)
Right, you did not need to say this. I feel like there's something else when Adriana said that, I could tell everybody, I feel like there's something else that we still don't even know. I mean, there's a third part for a reason, feel like. I feel like there could be still yet another bombshell.

Kelli (18:17.822)
She... No, she didn't. She didn't.

Kelli (18:32.194)
Probably.

Kelli (18:36.277)
Yeah, no, you're absolutely right.

Kelli (18:41.474)
You're right. Definitely could be.

Wendy (18:44.098)
I mean, Andy asked her if she had an affair with a Haitian mortician and Julia said TBD, but then she said affair, no. So that doesn't mean, means she didn't have an affair, she, right, exactly. Or it could have, but she's not calling it an affair, right?

Kelli (18:55.392)
It didn't carry on.

Wendy (19:03.818)
So then they go back to the dressing rooms and Julia's in her dressing room talking to Alexia and Kiki. She's like, I've been holding on to this. Lisa's in her dressing room talking to Adriana and Adriana when she walks back to her dressing room says to Vasya, listen, we need to find you a new godmother. was like, my God, my God. So funny.

Kelli (19:26.712)
So funny. Kiki kept asking over and over like intimate details and all Julia would say was we had sex, we had sex. Which again, thank you, because I don't need the gritty details. But it does, it does leave, she was really pushing and I think maybe, yeah, but I think maybe Kiki, although I do feel like Kiki takes,

Wendy (19:45.12)
Yes, Kiki was really pushing. Even Alexia!

Kelli (19:54.742)
does not take Adriana's side at all, or Gurney's for that matter. But I do think that maybe Kiki was asking for more details to kind of feel her out to see if she thinks she's telling the truth or not. You know?

Wendy (20:07.566)
I don't know. I just think that you're right. I don't think that she takes Adriana's side. And I think that she just wanted the details. Just like Alexia. mean, Alexia was asking intimate details too.

Kelli (20:17.686)
Yeah. Yeah.

Kelli (20:23.468)
Yes she was.

Wendy (20:24.864)
And Lisa, thought it was so funny how Lisa was asking Adriana in her dressing room while she's like getting her hair done and she's like doing motions. Like, did you, the scissor motion. And Adriana was like, no, like I don't like that. No, never. Like that never happened. And I believe her.

Kelli (20:43.476)
I totally believe Adriana. I think there was heavy petting. I think that's what it was. I think there was probably like foreplay.

Wendy (20:47.692)
Yep, I do too. And it wasn't her. was...

Wendy (20:54.23)
It was on Julia's side. think that, you know, although Adriana was a participant, I think that she was a passive participant.

Kelli (20:56.278)
Yes.

Kelli (21:02.4)
Right. Right.

Wendy (21:05.23)
but yes, I mean the, questions that Alexia, Kiki. my God. I mean, I wrote this down. Kiki's I don't, I'm not going to read it. I'm not. Julia said after Kiki asked that she said, guys, we were intimate. That's it. Intimate. I was like, my God, I cannot believe she's asking these questions.

Kelli (21:14.904)
You don't even mind to read it, do you?

Kelli (21:28.982)
And Gerty was telling Russell about it and she said, Adriana is single, a single can be.

So.

Wendy (21:37.794)
Then we see Larsa talking to Stephanie and Stephanie's like, you I don't know how we top the Haitian, right? And she's like, no, there's no topping the Haitian, right? There is none. Like there's no topping the Haitian. Larsa said, I think she just made all that up. Stephanie said, Adriana, no, Julia is a nymph. She's like, she's in a great place right now and you know, she's still making out with everybody. It's true.

Kelli (22:03.724)
Right. And she said, I'm like Stephanie said to Larsa, I'm sorry, but I'm not agreeing with you this time. I love that she said that.

Wendy (22:09.036)
Yeah, I did too. I'm not gonna side with you on this one. I love that she said that too. I like that she put Larsa in her place. And I actually liked that she was on the opposite couch of Larsa. And we were talking about the placement of the seating. It actually is making a little bit more sense to me now that we're watching the reunion because Stephanie was in the first seat because, well, one, couldn't be Adriana because she's a friend of, right? But Adriana was right next to her.

right? Or was Gertie next to her?

Kelli (22:38.282)
No, Adriana was the last one on the couch.

Wendy (22:42.847)
So yeah, I mean

Kelli (22:43.796)
It went Stephanie Lisa Gertie Adriana. And then the other side was Alexia Julia Marisol Kiki.

Wendy (22:46.818)
Lisa

Wendy (22:53.952)
Marisol Kiki. Yeah.

Kelli (22:57.41)
Listen, none of them had a big, you know, I mean, what did they give an Alexia the first seat for? Because she's still talking about her divorce from Todd? I don't know. But none of them had anything major going on. So I guess whatever, it was just whatever. know, Stephanie was the new girl. She and Alexia went head to head. I guess maybe that's what they were thinking.

Wendy (23:11.743)
No.

Wendy (23:22.494)
Yeah. And speaking of the divorce from Todd, the actual court papers came out this week too. Yes, of him suing Bravo. So, you know, it's so funny what a big week this was. Like we thought after we watched Miami that Miami and the Haitian mortician was going to be the story, right? Like that's all we're going to talk about. And

Kelli (23:29.162)
of him sewing bravo.

Mm-hmm.

Wendy (23:48.458)
And then, I'm saying last week, I'm saying this week, but it was last week. And then all of a sudden the Potomac, Wendy, Osefo, Eddie information drops. In addition to the Todd actual court filings lawsuit dropped. Like this was a big Bravo week. Really was, really was.

Kelli (23:59.545)
Yeah.

Kelli (24:03.768)
Big Bravo week, big Bravo week. Yeah, I'm gonna have to get into that whole Todd complaint. I'm sure somebody's gonna break it down. The Bravo docket or Anna, Anna, yeah.

Wendy (24:16.718)
Anna posted the actual complaint on Instagram. I didn't read it, but she, yeah, she's gonna go through. Yeah, I will too. I will too. So while they're still in the back,

Kelli (24:22.028)
she's gonna be going through it then I'll definitely listen to her break it down. Yeah.

Wendy (24:36.234)
Adriana hears that they're still talking and she's like, you know what, I'm gonna go in there. So she goes in there and she said, you know, I would have taken that secret to the grave. Like you were married. Like I wasn't gonna tell any, and I will, I 100 % believe her.

Kelli (24:49.824)
I do too. I think Adriana can be kooky at times. I don't know what she was threatening Julia with, but I don't think it was that.

Wendy (24:58.336)
I don't think it was that either. I really don't.

Kelli (25:00.626)
I really thought it had something to do with the boat. I really thought it was like, I'll tell people why you didn't want Gertie around on that ship. And I thought it had something to do with her having an infidelity on that boat with someone.

Wendy (25:19.084)
I don't know. I'm hoping that maybe we find out in part three. But the next thing I wrote is I am so distracted by Adriana's corset. I can see from her back. Did you see when she went into the other room, like we just see her back and she's got this corset on, which I get, because you're sitting on a couch and you want to look snatched. I totally get it. But I'm sorry, it was very distracting to me. It shouldn't have been, but it was.

Kelli (25:31.831)
Yeah.

Kelli (25:37.76)
Right. Right.

It was very distracting. Yes.

Wendy (25:50.996)
Lexia and Marisol are talking in their dressing rooms and Lexia said, like, I don't think I've ever been this excited to go back out from a break. I can't wait to hear the rest of it. just want to know who did what to who. my gosh. You're not getting it. So then after the break, Andy said, I just want to ask you one more time, Adriana, did you mess around with Julia and the Hamptons?

Kelli (25:58.841)
You

Kelli (26:05.59)
Right, right. You're not gonna get the details ladies. Let it go.

Wendy (26:18.218)
Adriana said, if we're gonna go back, if we're gonna go back to back, the first time I met Julia, like back to back to back, was in a luncheon on Fisher Island. And she told me, you look like Snow White. You're so pretty. I was like, wait a second. And Andy didn't wanna go back that far, but she pushed to go back. She started talking about how good my boobs were.

Kelli (26:38.968)
Right. Yeah, good.

Wendy (26:44.138)
And then she proceeds to invite me to the bathroom so that she can see them. I totally believe this entire story. Entire story, I totally believe it. She wanted to see them. And then she showed me her butt. Julie admits it. Admits she showed her her butt. Like she doesn't deny it. She's like, I see a pattern. now in my mind, I know that you you've been crushing on me this whole time. Like you were just, you were seducing me.

Kelli (26:51.544)
100%.

Kelli (27:02.294)
Yeah.

Kelli (27:14.135)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (27:15.456)
So Andy's like, so did you or did you not mess around in the Hamptons? Adrienne's like, well, I mean, she petted me. then the ladies are like, petted? Like, did she say petted? Like, they'd never heard the word petted before?

Kelli (27:28.564)
Yeah, I mean, come on, ladies, you get it.

Wendy (27:31.562)
She's emphatically denied there was no scissoring. She said, I don't even know what her private parts look like. I believe her.

Kelli (27:40.184)
Right. I totally believe her too, personally. How about, Andy asks Julia what her motivation was for sharing the story, and she said that Adriana asked her if she would leave Martina for her. I don't believe that. I just don't believe that.

Wendy (27:52.47)
Yeah, I don't either. I don't. No, I don't either.

Kelli (27:59.565)
I mean, cause Adriana's made it very clear that she likes men. I mean, she's a sexual person, obviously, she's a flirty person. But I can't see her asking a woman to leave their partner, their wife, for her.

Wendy (28:14.966)
I can't either. And she also said that was because Adriana said it would be a good storyline. I don't see her doing that either.

Kelli (28:20.832)
Yeah, she did say that.

That I could almost believe. But I don't think she asked her to leave Martina for her. And if she did, I think it would be a joke.

Wendy (28:36.802)
call bullshit. I totally call bullshit.

Kelli (28:38.218)
I- I- Yeah, I agree.

Wendy (28:41.24)
Then she talks about when they, Adriana talks about when they were in Spain and they were in Marisol and Alexia's room and they were all drunk. And I remember that night when they were all drunk in there. And then she left and she went downstairs to her room and Julia said, follow me to my room. And then she pinned her. Like she didn't make that up. She did not make that up.

Kelli (28:56.31)
Yeah.

Kelli (29:00.694)
Now, I believe that. I really believe that.

Wendy (29:03.181)
Yeah.

and

Wendy (29:09.576)
Julia said that's such a lie. I was trying to avoid you. No.

Kelli (29:15.959)
now

Wendy (29:16.01)
Andy said, so listen, here's the deal. What's interesting tonight is when I spoke to Adriana before we came out, she was very hopeful that the two of you would reconcile. And it was Adriana that said it. That's how we know it was Adriana. Julia said, me saying that doesn't mean I hate her. I do miss the friendship. Well, you saying that is what torpedoed the friendship. It will never come back. You totally lied. You totally lied.

Kelli (29:38.026)
Ever. Right. Yep.

Wendy (29:43.754)
Adriana said, do you miss the friendship or do you miss the pussy? I was like, ooh, that's another good line. But then Julie asked, I just want to know, were you genuine with me? Like, she's still like, did you like me as a friend or was it part of-

Kelli (29:52.333)
Hmm

Kelli (30:00.749)
Yeah, shut up.

Kelli (30:06.476)
Because she's got Alexia Marisol on her ear and they're like, she didn't really want you as a friend, she just wanted a reason to be on the show. Alexia Marisol had Alexia, they're in her ear, they're definitely in Julia's ear.

Wendy (30:20.48)
Yeah. I mean, it was actually the perfect setup for Adriana. Adriana's like, I loved you. Like, I gave you my heart. And then she gets up with the box and she walks over and she gives it the box and she opens up the box and there's a heart in the box. like, I mean.

Kelli (30:28.952)
Yeah.

Kelli (30:42.38)
Don't you kind of wish it was the friend engagement ring? I kind of wish she gave her back the ring. I feel like it would have been more impactful.

Wendy (30:44.846)
That would be good. Yeah.

Wendy (30:51.957)
Yeah.

Wendy (30:55.791)
Like.

Kelli (30:55.872)
And then it's over and he's like, okay, moving on. Which I guess really how much more can we possibly talk about this?

Wendy (31:05.994)
It, I mean, I don't know. It, yeah.

Kelli (31:10.54)
This is a tangled web though. Yeah.

Wendy (31:12.256)
It really is a tangled web. like I said, I believe we're going to come back to it again. I believe that it's going to come back. Yeah.

Kelli (31:17.071)
for sure. There's a whole other episode, for sure. Nothing else happened this season.

Wendy (31:21.9)
Yeah, that's right. So then we.

Kelli (31:23.402)
I mean, other than them trying to take Gertie down, but Andy's clearly not even acknowledging that, which is outrageous.

Wendy (31:26.028)
down.

No, he's... It really is outrageous. So they come back after another break and Andy starts with Kiki. After opening up about her painful childhood, Kiki forgave her dad and leaned on him for support. And he asks things with her dad, how they're going. And she's like, they're going good. We're taking baby steps. She's thinking now that maybe because of what happened to her in her childhood, that's why she's had such...

bad relationships with men and because of her childhood trauma. And she says, since March of 2024, she's decided to be celibate. I was like, oh, well, that's a surprise. And Andy asked like,

Kelli (32:10.434)
Yeah.

Wendy (32:15.832)
Like how, like how was it? Like how did you find out, how was it finding out on camera that you had a little brother? And she's like, well, she was kind of surprised, but not really because she knows who her dad is. And that her dad wants to have more children and Kiki's like, yeah, and he wants me to take care of them. That's crazy. I think more than financially, I think, you know, I don't know.

Kelli (32:37.932)
financially, obviously.

Kelli (32:46.572)
Definitely financially maybe maybe more What a loser like him and sleet for crying out loud get a job

Wendy (32:47.914)
yeah, definitely. And then he's... I know.

Wendy (32:55.874)
Yep. Then he says, know, Lisa, Kiki partially credits you for getting back with her dad. And, you know, Lisa says that she wishes she could have get back time because she hadn't had a relationship with her dad and she just started getting back together with him. He had plans to come to Miami and to, you know, to meet the group. And he just met Elle for the first time and then he got sick and died, you know, very quickly. And it's sad. It's very sad. And that's why she encouraged Kiki to

Kelli (33:15.308)
Yeah.

Kelli (33:20.076)
Yeah, that sad.

Wendy (33:25.986)
You know, while your dad is still here, like, you still have time.

Andy asked what's happening with the threats and she said that her dad actually got on a plane and had to go back to Haiti even though it's a dangerous place to be. Because he knew who it was and he had to go, I guess he had to go there and threaten them. She said put his foot down, but I I think that means threaten them. That it would stop. Then Kiki says that Marisol introduced her to somebody.

Kelli (33:51.82)
Yeah.

Wendy (34:00.896)
So she'll see how that goes. He's a nice guy, somebody from the Hamptons. Andy probably knows him, I guess, because Andy spends a lot of time in the Hamptons.

Kelli (34:06.616)
Yeah.

Kelli (34:10.668)
Yeah, I think that's where his main house is now. Didn't he sell his place in the city?

Wendy (34:14.678)
He did sell his big penthouse in the city, I have to imagine he's got another place in the city. Right?

Kelli (34:19.512)
I'm sure he does, but I think his main residence is now in the Hamptons, which is good for him.

Wendy (34:25.078)
Yeah. Then he moves on to Stephanie. know, he asked Stephanie, if not a chihuahua, what is your spirit, Annel? Well, she came up with that right away. An afghan. Yeah, I'd never even heard of an afghan hound. But they win all the Westminster dog shows, so they've got a very good pedigree.

Kelli (34:35.362)
She sure did. She was well prepared for that question.

Wendy (34:52.586)
Andy brings up Alexia and Stephanie, you know, the battle of the alphas. And he asks Larsa, like, you brought Stephanie into this group, like, did you think that her and Alexia would butt heads? And she's like, no, I thought that we were like all gonna be friends. And she's like, well, are, you know, they all are now, meaning the four of them are now friends.

Kelli (35:11.384)
Yeah.

Wendy (35:15.05)
Andy brings up that Adriana thought that Alexia was threatened by younger, wealthier women. Yeah, and she's like, well, that's Adriana's storyline. That's what Alexia said. Andy asked if anybody else feels like Alexia was threatened by Stephanie, and Gertie's like, absolutely. Alexia said, you know, that we welcome Stephanie with open arms, but her biggest hesitation was Adriana. And Stephanie said, no.

Kelli (35:20.482)
She is.

Wendy (35:44.172)
My biggest hesitation with Adriana was because you guys, meaning Alexi and Marisol, you guys pointed out what her problem was. And meanwhile, I don't know if you watched, Gertie and Lisa were nodding their heads, and Stephanie said, she's been the nicest one meeting Adriana. You guys painted this picture of her, but I chose to get to know her on my own.

Kelli (36:02.188)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (36:14.486)
I'm glad she did that and I'm glad she said it.

Kelli (36:17.208)
Absolutely. And what did Gertie say? I have here, so Gertie had a good point. She said that she stepped out of line and was pummeled over it. Yeah, so Gertie said, basically when I stepped out of line, I was pummeled for it, but Stephanie could do something similar, but she has a private jet, so it was okay. I mean, she's not wrong.

Wendy (36:40.76)
Right.

Wendy (36:44.888)
She's not wrong. She's not wrong. She's not. Stephanie said Alexia's Chihuahua comment was an example of the way she talks down to women. And then Andy says, do you agree that Alexia talks down to women? Adriana and Gertie said all the time. Alexia accused Stephanie of dangling her plane like a carrot. And Stephanie said, well, let me explain. When I was a little girl, we'd go to school on Fridays and we'd do show and tell. And every Friday I'd bring in all my stuff.

And I thought this was awesome. I'd excited to show my stuff. And then if it was Andy's turn for show and tell, Andy would show all of his stuff. And I was excited to see Andy's stuff. He goes, so she's like, so I thought that this is like awesome. I think of my life like as an adult, like show and tell. So it's not really a problem. Like when I say to someone who has a plane, like, I was taking pictures of my plane. They're like, that's great. You you've got a great plan. It's only a problem when you say to someone who doesn't have a plane.

I was like, whoa, talk about an analogy. We have to. No, they should not. They should not make them. No, they should not. Right. They should not. Like it just doesn't mean, it doesn't make sense, right?

Kelli (37:49.187)
Her analogies are horrible, by the way. And again, can we just agree that analogy, housewives don't get analogies. Or bravo, housewives.

Kelli (38:07.958)
Yeah, not at all. Not at all.

Wendy (38:09.774)
So, but then Andy, Andy goes, well, in your defense, this is a show that leads off with what people have and the accumulation of wealth. Andy asks Alexia, like what she thinks Stephanie was trying to accomplish when talking about her plane. And that's when Alexia says she thinks it's validation. I mean, it's her accomplishments, but I feel like for us as a group, I had a conversation with Gertie. This is when she's trying to throw Gertie under the bus. And even Gertie agreed and we spoke on the phone that Stephanie came in.

Kelli (38:15.512)
Yeah.

Wendy (38:37.004)
with all this wealth, the girls automatically wanted to be friends with you.

And that's when Kiki jumps in with this other statement, which not even what they were talking about. Kiki said, I guess then the case can be clear with the group. I always say this, people are running with the narrative that these women are racist. I don't think we're racist. It's a classism issue. Okay, I definitely believe it's a classism issue. Yes, because-

Kelli (39:06.55)
It's definitely a classism issue, yeah.

Wendy (39:08.64)
We say this one has more money, that one has more money. I just want to make sure we all, with all this backlash, I'm getting on, we are getting online, not her. We are getting, I don't want anyone, I don't want them to think anyone here is a racist. We are not racist. That's when Gertie chimes in and says, about the time I did speak to you, Alexia, she's pointing to Alexia, with the contest saying, I'm damned if I do and I'm damned if I don't anything being treated like a piece of crap. She said,

The plane, can curse at you from Timbuktu, Stephanie can curse at you from Timbuktu, and okay, girl, you give her grace because she has a plane. But when I try and say what's going on, meanwhile, as she's trying to explain this, Alexia starts talking over her, Marisol jumps in, Julia jumps in. This is when I was pissed off at Andy. And Andy's not even listening.

Kelli (39:59.47)
Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm. Yeah. Nope.

Wendy (40:06.654)
And to her he says, okay, very good. And then he moves on. He did not even let her finish talking. And what she was trying...

Kelli (40:12.258)
at all. And I know Gertie can be like Dorit, like you do have to like rein her in sometimes when she's talking, but that was a very valid point she was making right there. And it was relevant to what they were talking about. And he shut her down. Yeah.

Wendy (40:27.608)
He shut her down and it was so frustrating. First, Alexia starts talking over her. Marisol talks. Let her speak. Let her speak. What she was saying was valid.

Kelli (40:36.15)
Yep. Yep.

Mm-hmm. No, and then he moves on to Larsa and the unfollow follow thing. who, nobody cares about this.

Wendy (40:53.742)
Actually, he moved on to Todd.

Kelli (40:57.439)
I don't even have that down.

Wendy (40:59.116)
yeah, no, the next thing was, a viewer asked, saw, I know, a viewer asked, I saw Todd's IG post about an unnamed reality TV woman flexing with her jet and flaunting her Birkins. I don't know who he could be talking about. Andy asked Stephanie, what was her reaction to this post? She's like, my reaction is still the same. I think Alexia is way too good for him. I think he really, really wants to be famous. And I think Todd's cheesy.

Kelli (41:02.668)
I'm so tired of hearing about Todd, too.

Kelli (41:11.529)
yeah yeah yeah yeah.

Wendy (41:29.846)
And Andy said, know, to Alexi, do you agree that you and Stephanie are a lot alike? And, you know, like, why do you think it took you so long to realize that? And Alexi said, well, I just don't think we really gave each other a chance. Andy then asked Stephanie what she learned about Alexia after getting to know her. And she said, it's very clear to me that, you know, she's a kind person.

I just have to speak to her in a certain way so it doesn't come across too harshly. I mean, I don't know. Then he says to Alexia, same question to you.

Kelli (42:04.28)
Yeah, I mean, come on.

So basically they're all gonna become afraid of Alexia like everybody on OC is afraid of Tamra and they're just gonna let her get away with everything. I don't wanna watch that.

Wendy (42:17.174)
No. No, I don't either. I don't.

Kelli (42:19.734)
You know, just like they did with Teresa on New Jersey. Like, I don't want to watch it.

Wendy (42:25.76)
No, I don't either. So then Alexia, same question to you. She said, I think she has a good heart and she could be a good friend once she's your friend and you have a friend for life. Whatever. Then they come back from another break and he asks how old Jeff is. He asked Larsa how old Jeff is and he's 31. And does he want, Andy said more kids and she said kids, cause you know, it's just her kids.

Kelli (42:37.442)
Whatever.

Wendy (42:54.495)
And she's like, I think so.

Then he goes about the following, the Lisa and the Marcus following. Again, I don't want to talk about that anymore. I don't really give a shit.

Kelli (43:03.896)
That was so stupid. She said her really good friends who knew what happened with her and Marcus should have unfollowed him. All right, we get it. I actually agree with her. I agree with her, but I just can't hear it anymore.

Wendy (43:06.925)
Wendy (43:12.075)
Right.

Wendy (43:18.988)
I think that at the end of this when Lisa says, everyone knows who, cause Andy says, what did you mean when you said that to Larsa at the party? Like everyone knows who you are. And she said, well, just ask, chat GBT, like people know who's, and then of course Stephanie has to read what chat GBT says, but Larsa says that she was in such a bad place that her family had to come stay with her.

So when she's talking about that, and Lisa says, I didn't know, like I didn't know, it kind of led me to believe that there may have been some sort of DV between her and Marcus.

Kelli (44:02.68)
That wouldn't surprise me.

Wendy (44:06.56)
I mean, I don't know, but that's the impression that I got when she was talking about it that way.

Kelli (44:13.09)
She said her kids were really affected by the breakup with Marcus. So if there were, I mean, her kids must not have known.

Wendy (44:16.618)
Yeah.

Wendy (44:20.352)
Well, she said they were affected by Bill because they had moved in together and it was the first person that she had ever lived with since their father. So I think that there was a lot riding on it. think that there's more to it than we know. And I think that Lisa's reaction to that, I had no idea. And she's like, well, yeah, because you didn't even pick up the phone and call me. I think that...

Kelli (44:29.229)
Yeah.

Kelli (44:44.396)
Right.

Wendy (44:50.722)
The next episode, we're gonna find out a little bit more about that.

Kelli (44:55.224)
Here's the problem though. know, most of these women are only showing us what they want us to see. They're not showing us everything. And even the other women on the show with them are probably like, it real? Is it fake? Like when Lisa said to her, your fake breakup, like she probably thought Larsa was just doing that for the show. It's gotta be difficult. It's hard for us to decipher what's real and what's not. It's gotta be hard for the women on the show, you know,

to decipher it with the other women on the show.

Wendy (45:28.202)
Right. No, I agree. I agree. I do. I mean...

Wendy (45:36.108)
I don't know, because I think we're going to see Jodie come out and actually talk to Larsa, right?

Kelli (45:41.12)
Yeah, I mean he's there. Russell's there. Was anybody else there? I don't think Marisol's husband was there. I she's just a friend of, don't need her. Martina is not there.

Wendy (45:43.969)
Right.

Wendy (45:51.214)
Do you blame her? I wouldn't go.

Kelli (45:52.312)
But that guy Jeff is, but I don't think he'd come out.

Wendy (45:56.514)
I mean, if Larsa can get him out, he'll be out. She likes to give him, she likes to give her men camera time.

Kelli (45:58.584)
Yeah, it's true.

Kelli (46:02.892)
That was the thing with Marcus. So you could tell Marcus liked to be on camera.

Wendy (46:07.48)
Yeah. Yeah.

Kelli (46:09.581)
Yeah.

Wendy (46:12.376)
So we'll have to see what happens. I do think there's more to the Larsa breakup with Marcus. I mean, she says it was really, at one point it was really toxic.

I don't know.

Kelli (46:26.562)
Well, if he, you know, if he does cocaine, like we saw in those pictures, if this is a common habit of his, it certainly does not bring out a better side of you. Cocaine makes you very angry and possibly physical, you know? I mean, not everybody, but it definitely brings out an angry side in people.

Wendy (46:32.097)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (46:54.572)
Yeah, and honestly, I mean...

Abuse is abuse, whether it's emotional or physical. you know, I don't know. I don't know what happened. I'm just, you know, reading in between the lines of what she put out there. I don't know. Maybe we'll see more. Maybe I'm, you know, seeing something that's not there. I don't know. We'll have to wait and see.

But I will say that if they get rid of Gertie, me personally, I will not watch it for my enjoyment. I mean, I will watch it if our viewers and listeners want me to watch it and recap it, I will do it, but.

Kelli (47:28.426)
I totally agree with you.

Kelli (47:34.764)
reluctantly.

Wendy (47:36.15)
Yes. So until next time, thank you for watching and listening. Please give us five star reviews and subscribe. Bye.

Kelli (47:45.369)
Bye.