RHOP-A Chin Check and a Side of Shade

RHOP-A Chin Check and a Side of Shade

Podcast Summary: RHOP S10 E2 — “Mint to Be Shady”

This week’s Real Housewives of Potomac episode starts with Ashley’s Second Bloom Ball — and things bloom straight into drama. Ashley wants proof of Stacey’s divorce, saying, “We can be a lot of things, but we can’t be liars.” That sets the tone for a night of shade and shifting alliances.

Wendy tries to play peacemaker, but Ashley quickly stirs things up by calling Stacey out for lying. Stacey feels attacked and confused as the women gang up on her, while Karen’s friend Cookie makes a cameo ahead of Karen’s upcoming birthday.

We meet new Housewife Tia, who reveals her Nigerian royal lineage and her upscale lifestyle — a total contrast to the other ladies. Meanwhile, Ashley throws in an “epic surprise”: a stripper. Because, of course.

Later, Wendy and Stacey meet for a low-key catch-up (sparkling water instead of champagne). Stacey drops two bombshells — she’s back with her husband and she’s launching a cannabis line. Wendy’s face says it all: girl, the math isn’t mathing.

We get a glimpse into Angel’s life in the DMV, her NFL hubby Bobby, and their stunning Colorado mansion. She’s adjusting to life as the group’s “rookie,” but as she says, “I’m not a rookie woman.”

At Tia’s house, we see her family dynamic and Giselle’s first impressions. Giselle, as usual, keeps the pot stirring — especially after learning about a supposed “chin check” between Angel and Kiarna.

The “Truth and Tranquility” yoga party turns into “Lies and Foolishness,” according to Giselle. Angel tries to keep things zen, but once Giselle brings up the “chin check,” chaos follows. Kiarna ends up apologizing, and the ladies try to regroup with mints (for more reasons than one). Ashley claims the mints were meant for Stacey’s “hot breath,” which adds insult to injury.

During the fire circle, Stacey calls Ashley over to confront her about questioning her divorce and shows what she says is a legal notification — but Giselle immediately calls it fake. The receipts aren’t receipting.

Finally, the ladies honor Karen’s birthday without her, sharing memories from her time in jail. But the biggest twist comes from Cookie’s phone: a text from Chris Samuels. Apparently, Stacey tried to shoot her shot with Monique’s husband — even asking Ashley’s friend to introduce them. Three weeks later, word gets back to Monique… and it’s clear this mess is just getting started.

Takeaways

Wendy's arrest impacts her role in the show.
The editing choices reflect the seriousness of Wendy's situation.
Ashley faces scrutiny over her divorce and its authenticity.
Group dynamics shift as alliances form and dissolve.
Stacey's character is questioned by the group.
The introduction of a stripper at a party raises eyebrows.
Champagne mishaps highlight the cast's social skills.
Stacey's relationship updates create tension among the women.
Giselle's treatment of Karen is seen as hypocritical.
Tia's background adds depth to her character.
Ashley navigates complex family dynamics.
Speed dating leads to new romantic developments.
Angel's transition into the group is met with mixed reactions.
Giselle's mean girl tactics are criticized.
The sound bath event serves as a backdrop for conflict.
Confessions reveal deeper issues among the women.
The mint controversy symbolizes ongoing tensions.
Karen's birthday celebration is overshadowed by drama.
Chris Samuels' involvement raises questions about Stacey's intentions.
Monique's return could

Transcript

Wendy (00:01.173)
Welcome to We Wine Whenever. I'm Wendy.

Kelli (00:03.926)
I'm Kelly.

Wendy (00:05.539)
We are talking about Real Housewives of Potomac, season 10, episode number two. This is the first episode after the big bombshell of Wendy Osefo and her husband being arrested. I was curious to see how they were going to edit it if they were, because that was the rumor out there, but there was nothing different. didn't take out her confessional. She still had confessionals.

Kelli (00:21.154)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (00:34.478)
So I was just listening to husbands watching Housewives and they were talking about it and they were saying that maybe as the season goes on, they'll eliminate some scenes. I do still think it's going to be difficult to do that though. I really do because she's a main player. Like she's not even just a friend of. I mean, when they took Kenya off, Kenya just stopped filming. It's not like they took anything out prior to what happened.

Wendy (00:34.521)
She was still in scenes.

Wendy (01:00.578)
Right.

Kelli (01:05.099)
be honest with you though, and we talked about this, I just find it a little upsetting that they pulled the wife swap, they're talking about taking her out of scenes, like this is still a pending investigation. They literally stopped filming while Teresa was in jail and picked cameras back up as soon as she got out. I mean, they did that Teresa checks in thing, I never watched that.

What a difference in treatment, right? And very similar charges. Fraud.

Wendy (01:41.528)
fraud. Yeah, fraud is similar in that. Yes, absolutely. Absolutely.

Kelli (01:45.858)
The treatment's very different. The treatment's very different. And I know that that was a long time ago with Teresa, but, you know, I've said it before, I'll say it again, they treat the brown girls differently.

Wendy (01:58.927)
We'll have to wait and see what happens, you know?

Kelli (02:01.238)
Yeah, yeah.

Wendy (02:03.609)
So we start out back at Ashley's second bloom ball and Ashley's going after Stacey about she wants to see the divorce papers to confirm that she's actually divorced. And I wrote down Ashley's quote here was, we can be a lot of things, but we can't be liars. Since when? mean.

Kelli (02:23.31)
When she says she stands on principles, I was like, what? Like people were questioning your divorce. Listen, maybe that's why she's doing this, but people were questioning her divorce. Her and Gizzy, well, we all were questioning her marriage, but her and Gizzy were not home girls back then. Gizzy and Robin were the green-eyed monsters and they were coming for Ashley every chance they got.

Wendy (02:36.975)
They're requesting her marriage!

I mean...

Right. No, no they weren't.

Kelli (02:53.196)
So shame on her for doing this to somebody else.

Wendy (02:53.326)
Yep.

Wendy (02:57.325)
No, I agree. I agree. And then back in the other room, Kiana and Wendy are still trying to hash things out. And Kiana's saying that, yep, yep. She still wants accountability from Wendy. Something interesting was that Ashley was on Watch What Happens Live last night and it was filmed prior to this announcement. But Andy asked her about

Kelli (03:07.35)
Yarn is still trying to have her moment, man.

Wendy (03:27.119)
some of the relationships and she actually said that we're going to see something that happens later on in the season about between Kiana and Wendy that there's more to it than than what we're seeing right now. She also, yeah, it's nothing. It doesn't make any sense. Right. Doesn't make any sense. And she also said that Wendy and Stacey got pretty close this season. So I think that

Kelli (03:41.88)
Well, that's good because right now they're not showing us anything except pettiness. Right. It doesn't make any sense.

Wendy (03:56.579)
that's gonna be interesting because right now, mean, all's I'm saying about Stacey is she's just one lie after another.

Kelli (04:06.22)
Yeah, listen, I don't like the way they're treating her, but she's playing a character on this show. I'm not buying the ex-husband thing. We didn't buy the TJ thing. I do buy into her trying to hit Chris Samuels up though.

Wendy (04:10.263)
No, I don't either.

Wendy (04:25.871)
Yeah, we'll get there. We will get there. That's funny. It's funny. So while they're all sitting there, so then all the ladies come around and Wendy decides that she's gonna try and rally the group. She's like, where do we go as a group? Stacey, you're a part of this group and Angel and Tia, welcome to the group. She's now all of a sudden the leader of the group trying to rally. Yeah, which I thought was a little interesting.

Kelli (04:28.972)
I do believe that.

Kelli (04:51.438)
The Welcome Committee,

Wendy (04:55.631)
You know, she's like, I want all of us to flow. And Ashley's like, you know, Stacey be lying. I'm like, Oh God, I mean, can we, I mean, we're at a party. Can we just get through like something? And Ashley says, Kay, Kay, didn't she tell you that, that this was a charade that she was, you know, that she needed to drop? And Keanu was like, yeah, at Lake Norman. She did say that. And now that's, yeah, that's.

Kelli (05:21.838)
She was FaceTime and TJ, right?

Wendy (05:25.239)
And they were roommates in Lake Norman, so.

I don't know. do find it interesting. actually find it entertaining that any time Stacey's asked a direct question, she doesn't ever answer it. It's always like, okay, yeah, or she'll just make like a statement, like a bold statement. Like, okay, whenever we have an interaction between the two of us, it comes from a place of negativity. Well, that doesn't answer the question.

Kelli (05:42.478)
She answers with a question.

Wendy (05:57.913)
Like, what does that mean? Like, what does that mean? Like, she is the queen of the word salad. I mean, she's very articulate in her words, but she puts them in places that they don't belong. She just throws these statements out there. Yeah. I mean, honestly, I think that's from her being a host on QVC because when you're a host or, and even I find it actually, sometimes when we're doing a podcast, you don't really want dead air. So sometimes the things that come out of your mouth are just like,

Kelli (06:08.662)
Right. It's just deflection, like deflect, deflect, deflect. Yeah.

Kelli (06:17.4)
Probably.

Wendy (06:28.173)
What was I saying? Right.

Kelli (06:29.494)
Right, exactly. And then you lose your train of thought. That happens all the time.

Wendy (06:38.383)
In her confessional, Stacey, she does say, she's like, I don't understand why these group of women are suddenly turned against me. Like I'm unjustly being beaten down. I do believe that it's unjust, but I don't think it's sudden. I don't think it's sudden. I think that this has been coming since she came on because I don't think they believed her from the very beginning.

Kelli (06:49.55)
I do too.

Kelli (06:56.024)
yeah, right, no. Nobody was buying the TJ thing and that, where are you gonna go from there? Like somebody comes on the show, you know, with a fake boyfriend and you're like, all right, well if you're faking that, what else are you faking? So I understand what they're saying and why they feel the way they feel, but like you said, I can't see it in every fucking scene. Like, I'm over it.

Wendy (07:05.977)
Well, that's it.

Wendy (07:22.071)
Right, exactly. Right, exactly.

Kelli (07:23.81)
The show just started, I'm over it already.

Wendy (07:27.351)
No, I agree with that. Karen's friend Cookie happens to be at this party and Giselle's talking to her saying that Karen's birthday's coming up so they're making plans to meet up for Karen's birthday.

Kelli (07:42.83)
Did you think to yourself, why don't you go visit Karen in jail on her birthday? That's what I was thinking.

Wendy (07:49.001)
No, I wouldn't have thought that to be honest with you because Giselle has made it very clear that she's not on Karen's list in prison. She doesn't speak to Karen, she doesn't visit Karen, that she gets her information from Cookie and that's how Karen wants it and Ray.

Kelli (08:01.314)
Oh, Karen didn't put her on the list.

Kelli (08:09.194)
Okay, okay. Well, I mean, listen, she's especially gonna be happy she did that, Karen, after she sees this season, where they're asking if she's in a geriatric wing and she's talking about her hair and she's being very messy, Jizzy. Very, very messy.

Wendy (08:11.598)
Yeah.

Wendy (08:25.923)
Well, mean, she's, listen, she's actually keeping Karen's legacy alive this season, talking about her every, so far it's only two episodes, but every episode.

Kelli (08:37.218)
Yeah, but she's also shading her and being rude about it. But she is talking about her.

Wendy (08:41.933)
do think she cares. I do think she does genuinely, I do think she genuinely does care about Karen. I do, I think that they do have a, I don't want to say like a love hate, but I do think that they have a, like a mutual respect. Yes, that's what it is. Yeah, yeah.

Kelli (08:55.84)
It's just very adversarial. They're very adversarial with each other,

Wendy (09:03.422)
Kelli (09:03.662)
Yeah.

Wendy (09:06.617)
Tia tells Wendy that her grandfather is a prince in Nigeria. And Wendy's like, well, she's from Nigeria also. So they get that connection and they can bond a little bit about that. And then Stacy chimes in that she was excited when she found out from her mother that she had Nigerian heritage. What?

I just.

Kelli (09:29.486)
Stacey's becoming the new Brittany Bateman.

Wendy (09:32.557)
my gosh, yes, yes she is.

Kelli (09:33.966)
She's like, guys, what about me? I'm Nigerian too.

Wendy (09:39.951)
my gosh, and then we see Ashley's epic surprise, which was a stripper. It was a stripper! A fancy stripper. Yeah. I mean, it was a fancy outfit. Yeah, it was a fancy outfit. I mean, it was a lot of sparkle. But yeah, she was a stripper, right?

Kelli (09:48.643)
What was that? A stripper, a stripper, a stripper. Was she? Her outfit, I guess? Yeah, yeah.

Kelli (10:05.378)
Yeah, your epic surprise was an epic letdown, Ashley.

Wendy (10:10.444)
Yeah.

Kelli (10:11.85)
Now had it been Bolo, I would have been locked in.

Wendy (10:15.567)
I know. think that that's not the place for that. Either way. No, it wasn't.

Kelli (10:18.858)
No, it wasn't the place for either one.

Wendy (10:25.999)
Then we see Wendy's at her house and Stacy's coming over. So Stacy comes in and they go out to the back deck and neither one of them, this blew my mind, could figure out how to open the bottle of champagne. So they drank sparkling, they drank sparkling water.

Kelli (10:40.204)
That blew my mind too.

I mean, they didn't even ask a producer to help them. I mean, if you want champagne, there's a way to, like, where there's a will, there's a way, ladies. Get it together.

Wendy (10:46.307)
I mean, there was a perfectly...

Wendy (10:51.821)
That's it. That's what I was thinking. There is a perfectly good bottle of champagne.

Kelli (10:55.48)
I mean, I personally do know how to open a bottle of champagne, but if I didn't, I would have asked somebody.

Wendy (11:03.319)
Yeah, or YouTube it. I I mean, even Stacey, she's like, I know how to open it. but normally when I get to it, this part is off. Well, then take that part off!

Kelli (11:05.646)
Thanks!

Kelli (11:12.952)
That's all they had to, all she had to do was take the wrapper off. And then it's really self-explanatory, people.

Wendy (11:18.743)
I know, I know, I don't know. I just was like, gosh, these women. Ashley starts, Stacey starts telling Wendy about how she went shopping with Ashley and Ashley kept asking her for, you know, proof of her divorce, but she also dropped the bomb that she met with a friend of TJ's and that she has receipts. And Wendy's like, well,

does she have receipts or the receipts to be had and Stacey's replies well I can't defend something if I don't even know what they're talking about so I don't know.

Okay.

Wendy (11:55.083)
Then Stacey announces that she's back with her husband to Wendy and Wendy's reaction is just... I mean...

Kelli (12:03.33)
Yeah, she's like, I have so many questions, but we're trying to like move forward and I just, there's just so much.

Wendy (12:08.941)
Yeah, she's almost, yeah, she's speechless really. I mean, she sits there for a moment and just kind of like, is like looking at her like, what are you doing?

Kelli (12:12.108)
Yeah, yeah.

Kelli (12:22.323)
We're all at the point where we're like just waiting to see what comes out of Stacey's mouth next.

Wendy (12:27.791)
Oh, well there's more. She said, you know, there's a lot of things being said about me that are lies. know, Giselle said that in New York at the reunion that I have a happy Stacey coming out. And I actually have a cannabis line coming out.

Okay, so Wendy's like, so Gisele wasn't lying. Well, no, she was because that was back in January and I didn't start the talks with this until March. No, this is not really how it works.

And it's like, does she think that these people are stupid?

Kelli (13:08.61)
Yes, yes she does.

She's gonna be one of those housewives where she's just gonna say outlandish things or just have these fake ass storylines and she's gonna be like insulted that people don't believe it. Like I said, I get what Giselle and Ashley are trying to do, but it's, she's certainly not the first housewife to lie on Potomac. And I just think that they're being like, they're just being harsh about it. I don't know. I don't know. She is starting to annoy me though.

Wendy (13:33.699)
No.

Wendy (13:43.439)
Yeah. The other thing I thought was weird and I feel like it's going to come back up someplace or something when she announces that she has to go to the bathroom. And Wendy's like, what do you mean? Like, what are you pregnant? why was that scene kept in there? There's got to be a reason.

Kelli (13:52.312)
Yes.

Kelli (14:02.112)
I don't know and I have the same thing. So she says she has to go to the bathroom, but for some reason Wendy finds this odd. Had she gone to the bathroom 15 times prior to that? Is that why she's like, what are you pregnant? Had she gone to the bathroom a couple times? We don't know. There's no context for Wendy thinking it's weird that Stacey has to go to the bathroom, except that they're in the middle of filming a scene and...

Wendy (14:12.558)
Yeah.

Wendy (14:20.544)
Right.

Kelli (14:29.078)
I'm sure they all normally wait until the scene's over to go to the bathroom.

Wendy (14:34.731)
Right, but again, like the fact that they that the producers kept it in like leads me to believe that is something about this is going to come up. Like, I don't know, though, right? I really don't know, because it was just odd. like this. First of all, this is very odd.

Kelli (14:42.04)
or something more, yeah.

Kelli (14:47.822)
It was very, very odd. Very, very odd.

Wendy (14:52.491)
Okay, the next thing we do is we see Tia's house and Giselle is going over there and she meets her children. She's got Amari and Nathaniel, they're her 10 year old twins. She also has a daughter, Sienna, who's 16 and Alexis is 13. And her husband Rob is there also.

Tia and Giselle met socially, they kind of bonded over being twin moms, which I can see that happening. They did not, they did not.

Kelli (15:21.912)
Did they say where they met though?

Kelli (15:26.594)
This is gonna sound really, really terrible, but I swear her accent sounds fake to me.

Wendy (15:34.136)
Really?

Kelli (15:35.66)
Like, I feel like she's a person playing a British person.

Wendy (15:39.875)
That is funny. That's funny. Yeah, that's funny. I don't know. I actually like her accent and sometimes accents bother me. I don't mind her accent. I don't know.

Kelli (15:41.324)
I don't know why.

Kelli (15:51.791)
I mean, she's very easy to understand, obviously. And I like her very much, but when she talks, I'm like, I don't know if I'm buying the whole accent thing. But obviously she really does have an accent and she's British. And it's just my crazy head.

Wendy (15:54.273)
Yeah, she is.

Wendy (16:04.374)
Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, because she said that she was born in Lagos, Nigeria and she was raised in England. and she, yeah, she's definitely legit. She's been married for 17 years. So that's, you know, that's a long time. She grew, her husband grew up on the South side of Chicago and she grew up with a cook, a steward, which I guess is a butler and a driver.

Kelli (16:14.124)
Yeah. yeah, she's legit.

Kelli (16:23.03)
Hell yeah.

Kelli (16:31.744)
No.

Wendy (16:34.359)
I'm like, talk about the Prince and the pauper. Like they grew up on like, right?

Kelli (16:37.006)
Yeah, I liked how she was like, I'm nobody's driver. And she's always like, he's like a nanny. And she's like, yeah, but don't tell him.

Wendy (16:43.544)
Right, yeah.

Don't tell them. So she's a global real estate advisor. I don't know what that is.

Kelli (16:57.944)
Sometimes I think people just make these damn titles up.

Wendy (17:01.431)
Yeah, that's not the only one I think is made up. We'll get to the other one. Her husband though, he does sales and acquisition for an aeronautical company. I don't think that's fake. I think that's real. I think he's legit.

Kelli (17:04.461)
Yeah.

Kelli (17:13.334)
That's definitely legit. I'm sure hers is legit too. I just never heard of it. I mean, I'm sure it's just because she's from another country, like she's probably, I'm sure she has contacts all over and clearly she's probably running in circles with some very wealthy people. So she's probably helping people from all over the world find real estate all over the world. That's probably what she does.

Wendy (17:17.45)
Yeah, no, I'm straight. Yeah.

Wendy (17:36.751)
She probably is. she probably, yeah, she probably says advisor because I guess to sell real estate, have to be licensed, like in the United States, you have to be licensed in each state you're selling in. So if you're doing it globally, yeah, that's probably exactly what she's doing. Yeah, yeah, she's hooking the people up with each other. Ashley is going to the White House Correspondents Dinner.

Kelli (17:48.727)
Right, right.

Right. It's like a consultant.

Kelli (17:59.097)
Right.

Wendy (18:06.081)
I think that's when Britney went to that. Didn't Britney go to that White House Correspondents Dinner as well, the same one that Ashley went to? Britney from the Valley?

Kelli (18:18.384)
yes, I thought you meant Salt Lake City. I'm like, my God. Please don't tell me she was invited to that. But yes, Brittany Cartwright, yes, I believe so. Yeah.

Wendy (18:21.769)
No, no, Brittany Cartwright. She did, right?

So Jessica is there, I guess to watch her kids. She's her half sister and as she said

Kelli (18:35.736)
So she must be, because first of all, she looks exactly like Ashley's mother. So she must be the product of Ashley's mother and the deadbeat boyfriend that Ashley don't like, right?

Wendy (18:39.983)
Thanks

Wendy (18:47.791)
okay, that makes sense. Yes, she does. Well, she is a teenager because she's going to be

Kelli (18:50.968)
She must be. She looks like a teenager. She looks young. And this is the guy that Michael was like, you know, don't mind helping your mother out, but I don't wanna help this guy out who can't go to work. And I don't blame Michael for that at all.

Wendy (19:08.555)
Okay, that makes sense because I was trying, listen, I agree with you. She did look a lot like Ashley and Ashley's mother, but I didn't think that they were married, that deadbeat, like boyfriend.

Kelli (19:10.862)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (19:15.79)
So much,

Kelli (19:21.41)
I don't think they are, I think it's just a boyfriend. But he was still in her life. By the way, did you see today Ashley's father passed away?

Wendy (19:25.455)
Hmm.

Wendy (19:30.659)
That's what I was going to say. I was going to say Ashley's father passed away because I initially thought it was, I thought it was her father that they both shared.

Kelli (19:39.178)
No, it's got to be her mother's kid with the

Wendy (19:40.867)
But it's, mean, based on the way she looked, yes, and she didn't go to her father's funeral. Listen, I don't blame her. mean.

Kelli (19:51.35)
I don't blame her either.

Wendy (19:52.929)
I don't blame her. I don't.

Kelli (19:54.777)
think that's, I know a couple of people who've had similar situations. And listen, that's a personal choice. And nobody can tell you what's right for you. That's a personal choice.

Wendy (20:01.295)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (20:07.895)
No, I agree. I mean, she tried to go see him when he was alive and he wouldn't talk to her. We saw it. We saw it on TV, you know? And he had many, many years to reach out if, you know, the camera was the problem and he didn't, so.

Kelli (20:12.118)
Exactly. Right. Yeah.

Kelli (20:20.834)
That's right, that's right.

Wendy (20:24.158)
So Josh is going to be her date. Now she met Josh.

Kelli (20:35.438)
speed dating.

Wendy (20:35.883)
at the speed dating last season with Giselle and things were going well, I thought, between her and Josh, but then she said when she signed on for Love Hotel, Josh was not happy about that. So I guess they broke up. I don't blame him either. And then she went to do Love Hotel and came back. And then one night when she was a little tipsy, she texted him and they've been kicking it ever since. So good for her.

Kelli (20:47.384)
Blame them.

Kelli (20:58.958)
They do have a lot of chemistry. I feel like they have a lot of chemistry,

Wendy (21:02.243)
They do, they're cute together.

Wendy (21:06.649)
But I also did just read, and I don't know if it's true, that she's dating an older gentleman who is very successful, I think, in real estate.

Kelli (21:16.514)
I think that, you know, she says it, she likes the daddy. Like she's, did she talk about, she didn't talk about that on Watch What Happens Live though.

Wendy (21:20.601)
She does. She does.

No, she didn't. She didn't. Well, Andy didn't ask her either.

Kelli (21:26.188)
Yeah. But I mean, no, right. And I feel like he would have if he had an inkling that that's what was going on. I feel like he would have asked her.

Wendy (21:38.231)
Yeah, yeah, I think he would have. I just do think he is a little, mean, he shows up wearing sneakers.

Kelli (21:48.952)
Yeah, I didn't get that.

Wendy (21:49.305)
They're going to the White House. Yeah, I mean, they're going to the White House Correspondents' Dinner. I get if you're not gonna wear a tuxedo, but sneakers?

Kelli (21:56.675)
Yeah, sneakers was a bold choice.

Wendy (22:00.793)
Yeah.

Wendy (22:04.099)
what's next? Angel and her husband, they go out to eat and we find a little bit more about them. they're talking about how it is moving back to the DMV and they're renting now until they can find something that they, you know, that they want. They're used to having a lot of land in Colorado.

Kelli (22:22.456)
Yeah, that house was quite beautiful that they showed. Their house in Colorado.

Wendy (22:24.619)
was amazing. Yeah.

So I thought this was interesting. They have been married for six years and Bobby has been retired from the NFL for three years. So she was only an actual NFL white for three years and he hit her up on Facebook. I thought that was interesting because, and he says that he had a DM her a couple of times and she didn't respond. Right?

Kelli (22:46.978)
Yeah, you DM'd her in the Facebook.

Kelli (22:57.484)
Yeah. Good for her though. Cause this man, I'm sure had women throwing themselves at him all the time. So she's smart. Yeah.

Wendy (23:00.331)
Yeah, good for her, right.

Wendy (23:06.529)
That's what I'm thinking. That's what I'm thinking. Yeah. Yeah.

So we'll have to see if they can find the land that they're looking for in the house that they're looking for.

Kelli (23:18.082)
Yeah, because one of them said, she said five acres minimum. mean, I don't know the outskirts, but you're very close to Washington DC. It's an extremely expensive area. I don't know. It's just, I don't know if you're gonna get that kind of land. But maybe on the outskirts, I don't know. But not in Potomac. mean, Potomac too is very, very expensive.

Wendy (23:23.332)
Yeah.

Wendy (23:31.3)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (23:39.917)
Yeah, no, I don't know either.

Yeah.

Kelli (23:46.924)
You're not going to get that kind of land there.

Wendy (23:49.975)
don't know actually how many of them actually live in Potomac, to be honest with you. Right?

Kelli (23:53.61)
I don't think many of them do. Because didn't we just see Wendy doesn't?

Wendy (23:58.754)
No, she doesn't.

Kelli (24:00.205)
Right? Giselle does not.

Wendy (24:01.773)
Yeah. Yeah. don't, I, yeah. Yeah. I don't think any of them, I don't think they do either. I don't think they do either.

Kelli (24:04.52)
Ashley doesn't. I don't think any of them live in Potobac.

Kelli (24:12.696)
That's really funny. And remember when they were so hard on Karen to fake in the delivery of the pizza? This is what I mean about Gisele and Ashley for that matter. Like they're just, they're fucking mean girls. And I feel like we've been saying this about a lot of housewives lately, but they really are.

Wendy (24:35.733)
Yeah. So he asks her, Bobby asks her how she, you know, how she feels being the rookie. And she said, her quote is, even though I'm a rookie to this group of women, I'm not a rookie woman. I was like, good for you.

Wendy (24:51.849)
Then we see Gisele goes over to Kiana's place and she's like asking about Greg, like does Greg stay here? She's like, yeah. Now, Greg's staying there. That doesn't mean he lives there, right? It just means he stays. Right. I know, I know. But she's got a chef there for the day. I thought that was just a little pretentious.

Kelli (25:06.622)
He's got a house. He's got that house they were moving into.

Kelli (25:15.746)
Yeah, well, I think that was to impress Jizzy. Kiana wants in with Jizzy. Or us, anything. Which it does, so well done.

Wendy (25:21.591)
Or us. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, all he brought out was a salad, but okay.

Kelli (25:34.286)
That was the starter though. I don't think we got past it, but that was the starter

Wendy (25:39.917)
Yeah, he brought out a salad. And Giselle starts asking about the angels party, the tranquility party, like what do we wear? What's the vibe? And are you good with angel? And she's like, well, I think it's like a yoga vibe. And she came to my event, she had an event at her spa. It was tox and caviar, so Botox and caviar. That sounds very interesting.

Kelli (26:06.808)
It sure does. We would be interested in that if someone around here wants to do that.

Wendy (26:08.589)
Yeah.

Wendy (26:12.001)
Yes, I would be interested. I mean, I've never had caviar, I don't think. No, I haven't. So I would be interested. Me neither. Me neither. Sign me up for both. So she's like, I was there downloading the girls as to what had happened with Wendy. And all of a sudden, starts like sticking up for Kiana saying like,

Kelli (26:17.538)
I've never had Botox or caviar and I would be interested in both.

Wendy (26:42.381)
Well, were her kids, for Wendy, that's what I meant, for Wendy, were her kids okay? And even Tia's like, well, I'm sure if she flew to LA, her kids were okay. Why are you asking that? Because the first thing she said, Wendy said to her when she saw her was, hey, my God, did you do your own makeup?

Kelli (26:42.786)
Wendy.

Kelli (27:06.606)
It is a weird thing to say to somebody, isn't it? I mean, I'm not completely on Kiana's side here though, I might be, if I were them, certainly I wouldn't be offended if somebody asked me if I did my own makeup because the answer is always yes. But I understand for a housewife at an event for another housewife, that is shade. That is 100 % shade.

Wendy (27:09.577)
Yeah, yes, it is a weird thing.

Wendy (27:25.015)
Yes, yes.

Wendy (27:35.907)
Yeah, yeah. And it's so funny because Tia, guess, I don't know, she didn't get it. I mean, there's a lot that Tia doesn't get. She's like, what does that mean? Ashley's like, girl, you know what that means. And I'm like, I don't think she does. don't, because, yeah, I don't think that in London they shade like that. I don't think.

Kelli (27:52.704)
I don't think she did either.

Kelli (27:58.881)
No, that's what mean. Like she doesn't act like that. This woman is polished. did Gisele call her? She called her something, but whatever she called her is right because this woman is not like that. She's not doing that.

Wendy (28:12.815)
Right. I like her. I like her.

Kelli (28:16.076)
I do too. I like both of them, Angel and Tia.

Wendy (28:18.575)
I do too. So she's like, she says to Angel, know, like it's, you know, if you're going to be that way, you know, okay, but, and then in her confessional, she's like, that's not how I expect a friend of 20 years to treat me. So Gisele's like, wait, I'm confused. So she was defending Wendy and I was like, yeah, you know, I had to do a little chin checking. I mean, that

Kelli (28:46.528)
Never heard of that in my life, did you?

Wendy (28:48.231)
Nope, no, of course not. How would I know what chin checking is? I was glad Gisele explained it. So she, yeah, she said, she said, yeah, a little mama bear part, we had to do a little chin checking. And Gisele's like, I didn't think we chin checked our friends. Because she explains to us that it's like, it's, it's, it's like a physical, what did she say?

Kelli (28:55.799)
Never heard it a bit.

Wendy (29:23.439)
You get together in a physical way. So I actually, I looked it up. It's basically like you punch someone in the face. You punch him, you know. Yeah, yeah, basically that's what it means. It's a physical altercation.

Kelli (29:31.151)
Really? That's it?

Kelli (29:36.312)
Well, then that was a stupid thing for her to say because it's obviously not what

Wendy (29:40.361)
Right, right. But it's physical. And Giselle said it's physical to get together in a physical way. So yeah, I know. No, no, that was not what happened. So then we get to the truth and tranquility party. And Nicole is there. Now, Nicole also has one of these funny titles. She is a sound bath practitioner.

Kelli (29:46.83)
Mm.

And it's not what happens.

Kelli (30:08.802)
Why are we, why are we having so many sound bath scenes on Housewives? I mean, I can't believe how they're writing formulas now. It's crazy.

Wendy (30:11.215)
I don't know.

Wendy (30:23.959)
Yeah. But I didn't know there was such a thing as a sound bath practitioner.

Kelli (30:29.74)
I mean, for Housewives franchises, you need one because there's so many scenes.

Wendy (30:36.513)
Yes you do. Yes you do.

Kelli (30:38.988)
Maybe she's the Bravo House sound bath, whatever.

Wendy (30:43.373)
Maybe. Practitioner. So Wendy's the first to arrive and as soon as she walks in, Angel calls her yoga Barbie because she's dressed all in pink.

Kelli (30:45.912)
Practitioner, there you go.

Kelli (30:55.246)
She did look like Yoga Barbie.

Wendy (30:57.303)
She did. Angel offers her spiked tea and then she adds lemon balm to it. And Wendy really was not receptive to it. She really did not want to be a part of the spiked tea. But when I heard what it was, it's a hibiscus tea, lemon, ginger, mint, and vodka. I'm here for that. I would try that. Right?

Kelli (31:16.014)
It sounds delicious. I don't think Wendy's a big drinker though. I think that's what it is. I think that's what it is. But that sounds delicious.

Wendy (31:21.261)
Okay, that could be it.

I thought so too. And well, that would explain it though, if she's not a big drinker, because when Tia comes and she offers the drink to Tia, she's like, do you, know, Angel says to her, do you drink? She's like, of course I drink, I have four children. I was like, yes, exactly.

Kelli (31:29.752)
Yeah.

Kelli (31:40.607)
Exactly Tia, we knew we were gonna like you. Knew it.

Wendy (31:49.519)
Giselle in her confessional after she gets there, she says, know, Angel's really nice. We just met her, but I don't really like truth and tranquility. I really like lies and foolishness. was, yep, that's about right, Giselle. That is what you like. That's what you like. I don't mind when Giselle does her shade in her confessionals. I don't mind when she does it there.

Kelli (32:07.362)
Yeah. Yeah.

Kelli (32:13.074)
no, that stuff's funny. That stuff's funny.

Wendy (32:16.526)
Yeah, yeah.

Wendy (32:21.827)
Then she says to Angel, I heard from Kay there's no loud talking in your house. She's like, yep, I don't want any negativity. you know, I don't like loud talking. Giselle's like, well, sometimes you got to go through the negative to get to the positive. And speaking of that, that was her segue. Where are we at with Kay and Wendy? I was like, she's just going to jump right in. Jump right in. And Wendy said good. And

Kelli (32:44.397)
right in there.

right in there.

Wendy (32:51.609)
Kay just kind of sat there and acknowledged it, but in her confessionals she said, to be honest, I just think Wendy's very passive aggressive and, you know, we'll just coexist for now.

Kelli (33:01.548)
And Wendy says, I am at peace and she is in peace.

Wendy (33:05.388)
Yep. In her confessional, she said that. Yep.

Kelli (33:06.574)
That was interesting. Yep.

Wendy (33:10.489)
Giselle said to Angel, and Kay, you guys are okay? And she's like, yeah, we're fine. And she's like, well.

A little while later, Angel says, I'm very confused. I'm not sure what you're talking about. Why wouldn't we be fine? And Giselle said, well, is it time for food? And what about the mints? I was like, wait a second. Are you gonna address that situation? But then the mints.

Kelli (33:33.624)
Mm-hmm.

Well, I don't know if you notice, but when Giselle said, chinchac, when she said it, Kay looked at her and said, cut the shit. Did you notice that?

Wendy (33:46.17)
I didn't see that. No. No, I did not see that.

Kelli (33:49.634)
Yeah. Or cut your shit. Something like that.

Wendy (33:53.751)
Okay. I just thought it was... No, she didn't. And I don't blame her. I don't blame her. Yeah, she did lie. But you know what? Listen, I give her props because she fessed up to it. And I've very rarely do you see a housewife that says, you know what? I did say it.

Kelli (33:55.458)
Kay did not want that brought up.

Kelli (34:00.559)
because she lied.

Kelli (34:09.176)
She dead. She dead.

Kelli (34:16.642)
Very rarely do we see a housewife ever admit to any wrongdoing.

Wendy (34:18.063)
So.

Wendy (34:21.431)
Yeah, I give her props for that. really do. I really do. But they had to bring up the thing about the mints again, and I feel like this is going to be all season. That's all we're going to talk about are these mints.

Kelli (34:30.988)
I think it's very rude what they're doing with this with Stacey. I really, really do.

Wendy (34:35.447)
I too.

Kelli (34:39.118)
and it just makes them look like assholes. Like do you think as a 57, 50 something year old woman, Giselle, this makes you look funny that you're making fun of somebody's bad breath? That does not make you funny. That makes you like a second grader.

Wendy (35:02.551)
Yeah, I did not like that. I did not like that. And even when, you know, Stacey arrives, Ashley says to her, you know, your breath's a little bit hot, a little hot, maybe you should go get a mint. So she goes and gets the mint. And, know, in her confessional, she's like, all right, if my breath and mints is what we're doing, that's better than what else has been going on. So I'll take it, which is kind of sad. You know, I feel, no, she's not wrong.

Kelli (35:25.57)
Yeah, she's not wrong.

Wendy (35:36.853)
Angel and her confessional said about the chin checking, she said,

Wendy (35:45.227)
Angel in confession, I don't believe that she would ever use that word because it's very aggressive. No one's going to chin check Angel Massey. If anyone's doing the chin checking, it's me. I'm like, boy, wait till she sees that. Wait till she sees that episode.

Kelli (35:56.878)
Yeah.

Kelli (36:00.633)
Yep, well, and then Kiana says, yeah, and then she admits it.

Wendy (36:06.913)
Yeah.

Kelli (36:11.96)
and we finally get to the sound bath.

Wendy (36:14.349)
Yep, we get outside to the sound bath. And now after they're done doing the sound bath, Angel lets us know that she is a certified mindful outdoor guide. Another title. Certified mindful outdoor guide.

Kelli (36:34.446)
My life is so boring. I'm just a billing coordinator at a law firm. I am going to give myself a fancy new title. I'm going to work on that.

Wendy (36:44.239)
Work, we should work on that. So they're gonna do this fire circle and Kay goes first. And what they do in the fire circle, I guess is they, I don't know, speak of something positive. So Kay goes first and she thanks Angel for being here to remind me what friendship looks like. Okay, that's nice.

Kelli (36:50.516)
I am, for sure.

Kelli (37:12.974)
Good save. Good save on the chin check,

Wendy (37:15.863)
Yep, then Tia goes next and thanks Giselle for inviting her to this amazing loving group. Okay. And then the next one we see is Stacey and she's like, I want to, I want to, I'm a place in my life where I want a fresh start. So I want to ask you all to stand up and do a cleansing breath. I'm like, God, asking them all to stand up.

Ashley says, it a lion's breath? Gisele says, did she put the mint in?

Kelli (37:47.256)
I think is that, yeah, I think the lion's breath, is that something like you do during these things? Like, because they all seem to know what she was talking about.

Or is it like a yoga thing?

Wendy (37:58.913)
Well, it might be, it might be. It might be, but she does get them all to stand up and do this big cleansing breath, right? And that was all we saw. Then they go inside and Stacey calls Ashley over and then all the ladies have to gather around, because they all want to know what's the conversation. And she's like, you you were really all over me about showing you proof that I was divorced. So she pulls out her phone and she shows her.

you know, this is what I received that said that, you know, it was final. And Giselle's looking at it and she's like, yeah, so she just got an app and made this. She's like, I have my own divorce. Everyone who's been divorced knows there's no stamp and it's not notarized. That's not a divorce decree. I'm like, I don't.

Kelli (38:47.128)
Well, what it would do, what it would say is on the top of it, it would say filed and a date. It would have a filed date on it somewhere. Anything filed with the court, unless this was the copy of it prior to being filed.

Wendy (39:03.127)
Well, she said it was the copy that she, it was what she received to say that it was final.

Kelli (39:07.618)
more than it would have had a filed stamp on it. But whatever, I mean, whatever.

Wendy (39:13.805)
Yeah. And that's kind of what Gisele says. She's like, I don't even care. Like who cares?

Kelli (39:18.658)
Yeah, like who cares?

Wendy (39:22.403)
That's, yeah. And Ashley's like, well, that was just one of many things, you know, but okay, she's gonna accept that. Which I guess means she's not gonna ask for any more proof that she's divorced.

Kelli (39:30.2)
Great.

Wendy (39:35.727)
Then we see Giselle goes to the Tally Ho restaurant and that's like I said, Karen's favorite restaurant. Kiana's meeting there, Ashley and Cookie is the last to arrive, Cookie and friends.

Kelli (39:51.416)
Yeah. Yeah.

Wendy (39:58.649)
So this is the actual day of Karen's birthday. And Giselle explains to Kierna and Ashley that Cookie was there when she was sentenced and when she went into prison. And she's been in contact with her. And they start asking questions like, how's Karen doing? And she's like, yeah, she's doing good. They call her Miss Karen. Ashley said, well, what does she do? She reads a lot of books. And what else is she doing? Reading?

Kelli (40:26.294)
exercising, she's exercising.

Wendy (40:27.777)
exercising, yep, exercising and reading books. Giselle said she was fearful that someone would try and make a mark on, for themselves and attack Karen, that it was gonna be, which I don't know.

Kelli (40:43.064)
Well, listen, I don't know. mean, that's probably a legitimate concern. Yeah. Because she's not where a place like Teresa went, right? Like a white collar kind of place. She's not in that kind of a place. Which that comes down, yeah. Which that comes down to what your offense was, Yeah.

Wendy (40:48.215)
I think it is. I think it is a legitimate concern.

Wendy (40:59.779)
She was in a county jail.

Wendy (41:04.845)
Right, right. And while they're sitting there, Cookie gets a text message and she's like, guess who that is? And it's Chris Samuels. And then that's when Ashley brings up that Stacey's trying to get with Chris Samuels. I think this is so interesting that Chris Samuels happens to text Cookie while she's sitting there. And why is Chris Samuel even friends with Cookie? And what's the text about?

Kelli (41:27.618)
Very coincidental.

Kelli (41:32.14)
Right. So many questions. So many questions.

Wendy (41:35.135)
Yes, so many questions.

Kelli (41:40.59)
So Cookie says, she's like, what? When Ashley says that Stacey's trying to get with Chris and Cookie says he can't have that funky odor in his house.

Wendy (41:41.205)
Kelli (41:54.198)
Did you hear her say that?

Wendy (41:54.797)
Yeah, yes I did. Yes I did. Yes, yes. So Ashley says, you know, maybe that was before she got back with her husband. She did say that.

Kelli (41:57.25)
That was kind of rude.

Wendy (42:11.937)
I don't know. She said her friend Tatiana was at her full bloom, her second bloom ball, but she arrived really late and she was, you know, helping her take her dress down the stairs. And her friend Tatiana is the one who told her that Stacey reached out to her to introduce her to Chris Samuels. And she was like, well, did you do it? She's like, yeah, I introduced them. But this was several months prior. What I'm wondering is like, Ashley says that three months prior was

That's right, three months prior was the reunion. And now, like they started filming three months after the reunion. So in the three months time, she got back with her husband and reached out to Chris Samuels. Like, what's the timeline?

Kelli (42:45.39)
Kelli (42:59.06)
Yeah, we definitely need a timeline here. And I'm sure it'll come up at the reunion, if not prior to that. mean, Monique's coming back, so we're obviously not done talking about this, but we definitely need a timeline. Like, because when was New York, when, so when was New York in relation to Christmas? Because didn't they go on Christmas vacation with the daughter and the ex-husband, and that's where they kind of rekindled their romance. So.

Wendy (43:06.895)
Three weeks later.

Wendy (43:25.29)
That's what she said.

Kelli (43:27.638)
So that's what we need to match up with.

Wendy (43:31.161)
Yeah, we need a timeline.

Kelli (43:35.778)
We'll have to look at what, when the reunion was, when the reunion was filmed.

Wendy (43:41.857)
Yes. Yes, this is interesting to me. I don't like when they leave us hanging. I don't like to be left hanging. I feel like we're being left hanging.

Kelli (43:52.027)
No, no, but I feel like we could figure this out. We just need to know when they recorded the reunion for season, what are we on, season 10? So season nine reunion.

Wendy (43:55.799)
Yeah, I think we can. I think we can.

Wendy (44:02.287)
10, so season 9.

Wendy (44:07.031)
I will say I'm excited to see Monique back. I would like to see what that's all about.

Kelli (44:11.5)
I'm so excited to see Monique and I'm a little upset that they got divorced, because I really did like them as a couple, you know, but I could imagine his, and by the way, Stacey, good luck with his mother, because I would imagine his mother had something to do with them getting divorced, because she never liked Monique and it didn't seem like she was gonna like anybody. She looks like she just liked the fact that her son had a lot of money and could take very good care of her and didn't want him taking care of anybody else, except his children, of course.

Wendy (44:23.016)
yeah.

Wendy (44:39.777)
Yeah, that definitely was made evident in every scene she was in. And she was mean to Monique. She was outright mean to her.

Kelli (44:44.982)
Yeah. She was outright mean to her.

Wendy (44:50.657)
Yeah, she was. She was.

Kelli (44:53.196)
Monique is from Pleasantville, New Jersey, which is down by A.C.

Wendy (44:56.885)
I didn't know she was from Pleasantville.

Kelli (44:59.478)
Yeah, so Eric showed me when we were dating, there's Rodney Jerkins, Rodney Jenkins? Rodney Jerkins, I think his name is, but he's a music producer. And he had a studio in, almost positive it's Pleasantville. Wherever his studio was is where Monique is from. it was this, it wasn't a big studio, but you would drive past there and there would be Bentleys, Maybach, like crazy cars, and Beyonce.

Like he produced Destiny's Child, Tony Braxton. You'll hear it. You'll hear it in the beginning of some of their songs. It says Dark Child. That was his, yeah. And wherever, I'm almost positive it's Pleasantville, New Jersey. That's where Monique is from, where his studio is.

Wendy (45:44.643)
That's name of his production company.

Wendy (45:54.007)
Okay, that's interesting.

Kelli (45:55.82)
Yep, little New Jersey trivia for you listeners at home.

Wendy (46:03.061)
All right. So anything else on Potomac?

Kelli (46:06.746)
not on Potomac, but I wanted to bring something up and ask our listeners a question. So have you seen that Teresa is saying she has reached out to her brother and that they're supposed to be meeting up?

Wendy (46:08.524)
Okay.

Wendy (46:13.646)
Great.

Wendy (46:23.012)
I did see that that's what was said. Right.

Kelli (46:26.54)
Right, we've seen nothing from Joe about it. So my question is, what do the listeners think about that? Do you think Joe Gorgas should go meet with his sister? Because I have mixed feelings about it and you know I'm rewatching Jersey and I am on season seven and Joe Giudice just left to go away. And how sad. And I have to say like they were so loving with each other.

leading up to him going away. And he and Joe and Melissa are in such a good place. It's very enjoyable to watch. But then we know what happens. Louie comes into the picture. So this is my feeling, because they were good until Louie came along. From this point on, from season six on, they were good until Louie came along. My feeling is this. If she leaves Louie and Louie's out of the picture, I think, I think

things could be okay. But as long as that creepy MF'er is in her life, there's no way she's gonna be okay with her brother.

Wendy (47:36.961)
Okay.

Kelli (47:37.24)
That's my feeling listeners, but I want to hear your feelings.

Wendy (47:40.815)
So wait, so you do think Joe should meet up?

Kelli (47:44.992)
only if Louie is out of the picture 100%. And he's not, he's not. So as of right now, no, I do not.

Wendy (47:50.051)
Well, OK.

Wendy (47:54.273)
Okay, I think Joe should meet up. I think family's family. I think family's family. That's just me.

Kelli (48:02.638)
The problem is that I listen I agree with you a family's family, but the problem is that Louie is a dangerous person he's a dangerous person and You can't have a normal relationship with somebody who's in a relationship with a dangerous person He's proven himself to be dangerous to Joe to Melissa I wouldn't let that motherfucker near my kids not in a million Years would I let him near my kids?

at their ages, 21 and 18. Never mind little ones.

Kelli (48:39.694)
But anyway, that's my thoughts. And that's good question.

Wendy (48:41.421)
All right, we'll have to see what our listeners think. Let us know in the comments or DM us.

Kelli (48:46.03)
You know I'm gonna bring it back to Jersey every chance I can.

Wendy (48:49.261)
That's what we do here. Well, that's what you do here. It is your job. One day you will get paid for it. Until next time, thank you for watching and listening. Please subscribe and give us five star reviews. Bye.

Kelli (48:50.806)
That's right. That's right. Like it's my job. I know. All right. One day. One day.

Kelli (49:10.777)
Bye.