RHOSLC - Fights Before Flight: The Yacht Chronicles

RHOSLC  Season 6 Episode 6 Out Of Gas

Podcast Summary RHOSLC - Fights Before Flight: The Yacht Chronicles

This episode is all about emotional exhaustion, friendship fractures, and a yacht trip that’s shaping up to be anything but relaxing.

Heather and Angie kick off the morning on FaceTime, caffeine in hand, unpacking Angie’s strained friendships—especially her loyalty tug-of-war between Lisa and Mary. Heather urges empathy; Angie’s not so sure Lisa can change.

Meanwhile, Bronwyn vents to Todd over ice cream about the group’s chaos and her own emotional needs, but the sundae ends up sweeter than their heart-to-heart.

Lisa tries to prep for the upcoming trip, but a conversation with John turns introspective as she admits feeling unappreciated and emotionally drained in their marriage.

Mary visits Angie for an awkward but surprisingly heartfelt confrontation. After tears, farts, and forgiveness (yes, in that order), they make up—at least for now.

Heather and Lisa meet next, clashing over past digs, glam squads, and who’s really the “mean girl” of the group. Heather calls Lisa a “risky friend,” and Lisa storms off, once again feeling misunderstood.

Britani and her daughter Olivia share one of the episode’s most emotional scenes—a painful but honest talk about how Britani prioritized men over her kids. It’s raw, revealing, and possibly redemptive.

Heather later meets Meredith to debrief, with both questioning whether Lisa can ever truly evolve or own her missteps.

By the time Mary, Angie, and Whitney start prepping for the yacht trip (and gossiping about Bronwyn’s old rumors), tensions are simmering. The coming attractions promise seasickness, shouting, and British crew commentary that might just steal the show.

Takeaways

Kelli and Lori discuss their personal lives before diving into the episode.
The episode features a lot of personal updates from the hosts.
Angie's relationship with Lisa is explored, highlighting its superficiality.
The hosts express excitement about the upcoming yacht trip.
Lisa's struggles with her relationship are a central theme.
Mary and Angie's friendship dynamics are discussed, showcasing their conflicts.
Brittany's relationship with her daughter is a focal point, revealing family issues.
Meredith and Heather's conversation sheds light on their views of Lisa.
Bronwyn's past issues are brought up, raising questions about her current choices.
The hosts conclude with thoughts on the future of the show and its cast.

Transcript

Kelli (00:01.42)
Hi, welcome to We Wind Whenever, I'm Kelly.

Lori (00:03.959)
And I'm Lori.

Kelli (00:05.624)
Tonight we're talking about Real Housewives of Salt Lake City, Season 6, Episode 6, Out of Gas.

Lori (00:12.602)
out of gas. And I just want to let everybody know, I'm going to give you a snippet from life of a real housewife. Okay? The joys of. So I have hives on my face, which I've covered. And yesterday at work, I worked for a podiatrist, I stabbed myself in the hand with a nice dirty scalpel and then proceeded to pass out. So that's the joys of real housewives. Okay? A real, housewife.

Kelli (00:19.575)
Mmm.

Kelli (00:33.144)
Okay.

Kelli (00:40.172)
a real real housewife.

Lori (00:42.49)
All right, so those were my problems. Hope everybody's having a good week.

Kelli (00:44.726)
Yeah. And, yeah, I know we're not going to talk about it tonight because we're to do a separate episode about it, but did you watch Wife Swap with Angie Kay? Okay. All I'm going to say is this. If you didn't already love Angie Kay, I feel like you're going to love her after this episode. Yeah. And she's totally Angie Kay. She is herself, but, it's very interesting. I really liked the Real Housewife.

Lori (00:54.498)
Not yet. No.

Lori (01:00.248)
You would love her now.

Lori (01:04.203)
I already love her,

Lori (01:08.334)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (01:14.528)
edition of this. know there's only been one, but I would imagine that the ones they've chosen will all wind up, you know, like Angie, because I like the ones they chose. Yeah, it's good. It's good.

Lori (01:26.904)
Yeah, I can't wait to watch it. I'm very excited for that.

All right. So first we have Heather and Angie fueling up for the morning with their coffee. And so now we know that Heather puts whipped cream in her coffee and Angie drinks hers out of a metal straw. Good to know.

Kelli (01:47.342)
People do that for wrinkles. Is that what it is? no, straws give you wrinkles. People do it so it doesn't make your teeth yellow. That's what it is. That's what it is. I knew there was a reason. I'm so far gone between the red wine, the coffee and the smoking. There's no hope.

Lori (01:52.27)
What? Straws give you wrinkles,

Lori (01:58.999)
Aha!

Okay, okay, okay.

Forget it and Then they're on a facetime call so I have a question. This is my question for our listeners Do you people facetime when you make phone calls like unless I have something I want to show somebody something like I never I don't know if it's an age thing

Kelli (02:27.399)
I do not FaceTime because I typically look like this. Nobody, sorry people. I worked from home today, there's no makeup, no hair done.

Lori (02:29.164)
I do not feel, yeah, and who wants to see that? Nobody, yeah.

No, so I'm very curious as to whether you people are listeners, whether you guys do a lot of FaceTime calls. I'm just really curious about that.

Kelli (02:48.588)
Yeah. The only time I'll FaceTime is if my kids are away, I make them FaceTime with me at night. And Kai, my nephew's son, who's only eight, you know, like first day of school or, you know, I'll FaceTime him when there's something going on. Yeah. But other than that, nope.

Lori (02:54.381)
Okay, yeah.

Lori (03:04.014)
Something like that, yeah. Yeah, yeah. No, I was just wondering about that. I was curious.

Kelli (03:12.662)
I bet you they do it because they're on camera, on Real Housewives. Like I'm sure, because this way production can see both sides of the conversation without one camera being at Angie's. Although one camera was at Angie's and one camera was at Heather's. Yeah, I don't know.

Lori (03:25.09)
It's already handed. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm sure I'm sure it's just for a cinematic thing, but I'm just curious as to whether people do that. So they're talking about Angie's situation with Mary and it's interesting. Angie says how she was much closer with Lisa at one point, but cares way more about her relationship with Mary than she ever did with Lisa.

Kelli (03:31.266)
Yes.

Kelli (03:53.452)
I think that her relationship with Lisa was surface level. And I think that maybe at one point she thought it was more and then realized it was not.

Lori (03:57.741)
Mm-hmm.

Lori (04:03.442)
It was not. Yeah. And it almost sounds like, Angie regrets her friendship with Lisa.

Kelli (04:11.682)
I mean, wouldn't you?

Lori (04:13.134)
She did kind of say she felt like it was a waste of time.

Kelli (04:17.207)
Yeah.

Lori (04:18.166)
And she said that it showed sides of herself that she doesn't like.

Kelli (04:22.508)
Right, right. Which is, know, when your friends, your partner, those people should bring out the better side of you, not the worst.

Lori (04:33.346)
Not the worst. Absolutely, absolutely. And she says Lisa hurts others and never cries about it. She's too busy crying about how she looks or how others see her. And then she explains that she was feeling very protective over everybody at that table, not just herself. She was kind of saying that's why she was so jacked up.

Kelli (04:46.008)
I mean.

Kelli (04:56.6)
Yeah. Yeah, I get that. mean, she has said, I'm not gonna let you bully me because she feels like Lisa bullies everybody.

Lori (05:06.394)
And she does.

Kelli (05:08.162)
Well, I mean, we see it later on. I know we'll get there, but with the scene with Heather in that boutique, mean...

Lori (05:12.361)
yes.

Please, Yeah. So Angie says Lisa just doesn't get it. And Heather says she doesn't need Lisa to be perfect or good, but just to acknowledge and listen and feel like conversations are, you know, a two way thing.

Kelli (05:16.93)
You know.

Lori (05:33.112)
So Angie doesn't know if Lise is capable of change and Heather thinks that their friend group has the best chance of helping her change. What do you think?

Kelli (05:41.426)
I feel like Heather is getting a little bit over her head. I don't know why she thinks this friend group can change Lisa because even Meredith and Lisa, did you watch the season where Lisa, with Lisa's hot mic moment when she was talking about Meredith or was that prior?

Lori (06:02.902)
was that was she was in the bathroom or something on a trip? I didn't, I didn't watch it, but I've, I've seen.

Kelli (06:06.615)
And she went.

She's fucked half of New York City. I mean, the things she said about Meredith, that's not a friend. She's just proven to, I think that all of her relationships, these are show relationships. These are show friends. These aren't real friends. She's not hanging out with any one of them off camera. So why Heather thinks she can have some kind of impact on Lisa, I don't know.

Lori (06:12.654)
Mm-hmm.

Lori (06:19.61)
No.

Lori (06:28.184)
Right. Right.

Lori (06:33.306)
No.

Lori (06:42.678)
And Heather says in her heart of hearts, in her confessionals, she believes Lisa is capable of admitting fault. She just hasn't seen her do it.

Lori (06:52.698)
I feel like, and let's just clarify this for the listening, watching audience. When we're discussing these characters on this show, we're not discussing who Lisa Barlow really is, although she might be just who she appears to be on that show. But when we look at it and discuss it, we're discussing a character that's being played on a scripted television show.

Kelli (06:52.878)
We shall see.

Lori (07:20.472)
So for all you people who like to get up all in our grills about how we're bullies or we're saying mean things about people, keep in mind please that just because it says reality television doesn't mean that it is actual reality.

Kelli (07:38.326)
And in either way, this is who they're choosing to show us. They're making the choice.

Lori (07:43.542)
Absolutely. you're willing, right? You're willing to broadcast it out there that this is who you are. So then when you get a comment about it.

Kelli (07:50.637)
Right. Like, Britney, I think, is completely, 100 % playing a character. I don't think we're getting the real Britney. I think that Britney is playing someone on TV because I think she wants to be an actress. I'll be honest with you, I think that that's what the deal with Britney is.

Lori (07:57.562)
Mm-hmm.

Lori (08:07.586)
I think that they're all on this show. They're all on this show because they want to be actresses.

Kelli (08:13.046)
Yeah, but her, like, think she really wants a career in Hollywood, being an actress. And I think that Jared does too. And I think that this whole relationship thing is a bunch of bullshit between them.

Lori (08:16.976)
definitely. definitely.

Lori (08:23.894)
absolutely. Absolutely.

Kelli (08:26.914)
So I have no problem talking trash on Britney.

Lori (08:30.136)
Yeah, there you go. And Heather says if they all can't enjoy themselves on a super yacht and they are all some sad bitches, which I'll go with her on that.

Kelli (08:41.014)
Yeah, yeah, I am excited for this trip because I love Captain Jason.

Lori (08:47.386)
okay, okay. Below deck. so it's a little crossover.

Kelli (08:49.226)
He, cause he's from, below deck, down under. It's a crossover cause we're going to see it on housewives and apparently you're going to see it on below deck. I've actually stopped watching below deck cause it's, it's a little too much for me now. Like the current season, it, I had no interest, but I'll probably watch, down under with captain Jason.

Lori (09:13.654)
Okay, okay.

Kelli (09:15.426)
I'm kind of over Captain Sandy and I do not like Captain Carrie, so. But I'll watch Jason. All right, the next scene made me very uncomfortable.

Lori (09:19.915)
Okay. Alright, good to know.

Lori (09:26.43)
really? You were uncomfortable? Todd? Yeah? I loved her outfit and her shoes. Gorgeous. Gorgeous.

Kelli (09:28.354)
Brahman and Todd.

Kelli (09:33.684)
Yeah, I just feel like Todd does not want anything to do with being on camera. And at this point, I wish housewives who have partners and kids who don't want to be on camera would stop forcing these people to be on camera because it's uncomfortable.

Lori (09:47.704)
to be on camera. Yeah, is, he is very, he can be uncomfortable to watch. I mean, but the whole thing with the cherry though, you know, he plucked her cherry off her Sunday. I think he was just, he just fucks with her. So I thought it was funny, you know.

Kelli (09:54.979)
Yeah.

Kelli (10:01.716)
100 % and that was actually like a funny moment between them. But you can tell he doesn't want any, he doesn't like the way this is looking for his wife. Like he doesn't like the way she's being portrayed and I don't blame him at all. I don't blame him at all.

Lori (10:06.552)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. No, he doesn't want anything to do with

Lori (10:13.786)
And who can blame him? Yeah, who can blame him? Yeah. Because I want to, I want to put it out there this way. I think that he must really and truly adore her because this is not something that's good for them. This is not something he wants. He doesn't think it's an intelligent choice, but he's letting her do it because obviously it's something that she wants to do. So kind of.

Kelli (10:27.875)
Yeah.

Kelli (10:40.098)
Right, right.

Lori (10:42.638)
look at it from that perspective.

Kelli (10:44.886)
Yeah, but she's like looking for like, well, she said like she didn't raise her voice. She wasn't in the middle of the chaos.

Lori (10:54.5)
yeah, she wanted a prize. She wanted a pat on the back. Like she, she wants approval. Yeah. She wants approval from him. Yeah. And that's kind of.

Kelli (10:58.391)
She wanted validation. She, yeah, she wants his approval. Which we just talked about this with somebody else, like Angie last week. Was that her?

Lori (11:06.266)
It's kind of sad. I don't remember. There's so many shows. Who can keep track? So, you know, she even says in her confessional, Todd's over this circle of women. And he told her that she can't be shocked to keep showing up at this circus and then be shocked by the clownery, which is so, so, so true. So true.

Kelli (11:12.332)
Yeah, I know.

Yeah.

Kelli (11:30.262)
Yeah, exactly.

I like when she asked him to suspend his bullshit meter for a minute. I did like that. I mean, do think, listen, I think they're a great couple. I like them, but I think that he just wants absolutely no part of this. So when he's on camera, although at the end, that wasn't uncomfortable at the end.

Lori (11:37.54)
Yeah

Lori (11:53.69)
Yeah. So, um, Lisa says she's kind of sucking and guessing herself with her relationship with Lisa and that the apology is an avenue to move forward. And then she starts talking to us, Todd, about the psychic and Todd is like not having it. He thinks it's like total bullshit and see, but this is just a typical, this is just a typical guy thing. you know, you can't have such a

Kelli (12:11.702)
Right. Yeah.

Kelli (12:20.097)
Eric would say the same thing if I came home and told him that.

Lori (12:23.578)
give guys such a heart, like don't expect more from them than what they're capable of. Todd was looking at this conversation like, she's talking about a psychic. I think a psychic is bullshit. Bronwyn's looking at the conversation as this is how the psychic made me feel. And you're saying that's bullshit. But that's not what he said. But you see like the weird dynamic that goes on with people with, you know, boys and girls. Yeah.

Kelli (12:45.236)
Yeah, for sure. sure. Yep. Yeah.

Lori (12:53.954)
So, gosh, let me go to the scene with Lisa and John. So my first question is, here's another question for the audience. If you're going on a trip, do you pack in the living room?

Why is she packing in the living room? I pack in my bedroom. Where my closet is?

Kelli (13:12.418)
Well, but think about who we're talking about here. We're talking about a group of women who have probably in their closet the same amount of clothes you, and Wendy all together have in our closet. These women, especially Lisa, have a tremendous amount of clothes and they have stylists. So her stylist could have brought all these things over, left them in her living room and that's why she's packing.

I don't even believe she packs for herself. I believe this was just a made up scene and she's got somebody who packs for her quite honestly. But yeah, it's not like you and me opening up our dresser drawers in our closet and packing from there. These women don't roll like that.

Lori (13:40.346)
Hmm?

Lori (13:45.408)
It's just a little fluff.

my...

Lori (13:58.756)
So funny, because I'm thinking to myself, who packs in their living room? What are you doing?

Kelli (14:02.934)
She probably had a stylist either go through her closet and pick stuff out for her or bring other stuff, plop to in her living room, and that's where we're at.

Lori (14:12.836)
But the whole scene itself was just so obnoxious. Bring me one suitcase, no make it two. you know, I usually go for seven to 10 days, but this is only three, I guess I'll survive. And

Kelli (14:27.906)
Yeah.

Yeah, she's like, I get it'll be fun for a three day trip, but I'm used to a seven to 10 day trip.

Lori (14:35.512)
Yeah. And when you and I went on our yacht, remember I brought nine suitcases? The staff on that yacht probably wanted to throw her overboard. Boating is not a nine suitcase place. I don't give a shit how big the yacht is. It's not what you do. It's not what you do.

Kelli (14:45.08)
The thing that-

Kelli (14:51.756)
Right, and here's the thing, yeah, and first of all, you're going on a yacht, like you probably weren't even supposed to bring that much, unless it was just literally you and John on the yacht, because it goes by weight and shit, yeah.

Lori (14:59.148)
No, it doesn't matter. doesn't matter. It is not a place for overabundance on a yacht. Even if it's a big mega yacht. No, it's just not that. It's not the deal.

Kelli (15:14.976)
Now, and the stat, I'm starting to feel bad for Lisa because she's so concerned with what people think of her. Like, here's a scene between she and her husband and she's still putting on this front, like.

Lori (15:30.0)
most definitely. Almost definitely. yeah. Husband, right. Stop. No husband. Right. And then, so she brings up the psychic and a communication problem. And it's amazing because she brings this up saying that the psychic said they have a communication problem. John tries to speak and she

Kelli (15:31.042)
you know, about her lifestyle. It's like, you're just talking to your husband. Like, you don't, you don't need to flex to your own husband.

Lori (15:57.208)
cuts them off a mid-sentence. like, my God, like what, what, what are you even doing? Do you, do you not, she has no self-awareness. And I, you know, he asked her how she felt when the psychic told them that they're not on the same page. And her answer is so telling. a long pause, you know,

Kelli (16:10.913)
No, no.

Lori (16:24.58)
There's a part of me that, like, yeah, it's true. She can't even be honest with him and herself.

Kelli (16:36.556)
Right. That's what I'm saying. Yeah.

Lori (16:37.26)
It's just, it's just one big circle jerk. It's like, it's amazing.

Kelli (16:42.572)
Right. And you know, she said that like there wasn't one catalyst for her to feel this way. It's been a slow burn since they got married. She's exhausted because she does everything. Like, listen, we can relate to that. Yeah, like we can definitely relate to that. But then John says Lisa doesn't want to hear what I have to say.

Lori (16:56.066)
Welcome to it, girlfriend.

Kelli (17:05.614)
And then she tells him to treat her like glass. I thought that was very interesting because she can be a bulldog, but if he hurts her feelings, he can shatter her.

Lori (17:15.268)
Okay, so meanwhile, Lisa's running around like a bull in a china shop where everyone else is concerned. You're not concerned with anybody else's breakage or glass, but when it comes to you, girl, let's all put on the kid gloves. Now, when they were having a conversation, you know, it's very telling people's body language. You know.

Kelli (17:24.152)
Right.

That's true. That's so true.

Kelli (17:34.723)
Right.

Lori (17:44.02)
his body language, his arms are crossed, his shoulders are flexed back, he's like in a very, he's in a very defensive mode. So that tells a lot about what their relationship is really like.

Kelli (17:48.163)
Yeah.

Kelli (17:54.178)
Yeah.

Kelli (17:59.565)
Yeah, well, and then, yeah, because then she says, we've been married a long time and nothing is perfect. And John said, well, you're perfect, but just not me.

Lori (18:08.408)
Yeah, everything you do is perfect.

Kelli (18:12.802)
That was very passive aggressive. It seems to me like maybe he's had it.

Lori (18:14.816)
absolutely.

Lori (18:20.122)
I think it would be a lot being married to her. I think that'd be a lot.

Kelli (18:23.498)
Yeah. Especially just not even just her, like just her trying to be what she's trying to be. Like just relax. Like we could see you got a nice life. Yeah, just be yourself. It must be fucking exhausting trying to keep up this like image. Like just fucking be yourself.

Lori (18:31.77)
Just be yourself. Just be yourself.

Lori (18:42.682)
Mm-hmm.

And John says, we're not on the same page because I don't think that you want to hear what I have to say because you're already in your head thinking that you're right.

Kelli (18:54.336)
Yeah. Yeah.

Lori (18:55.938)
And yeah, and she says, you're right when he says, you know, could you just listen to me just to show me that what I say matters? I mean, I wouldn't really think about that.

Imagine if your partner had said that to you. Is he saying, if you could just listen to me, just to show me that what I say matters. He doesn't even want you to listen and provide feedback to what he's saying. He just wants you to listen so that he knows you're listening.

That's like majorly messed up when you really stop and think about it. She just can't.

Kelli (19:34.348)
Right. Yeah. Mm-hmm.

Kelli (19:43.695)
think she's like hitting a wall. I think she's, know, everything's just too much, which listen, leave the show. Leave the show. If it's going to save your marriage, leave the show.

Lori (19:43.843)
I know.

Lori (19:59.202)
yeah.

Kelli (20:04.334)
understand these people. is fame that much? Even Bronwyn.

Lori (20:05.901)
I don't know.

Yeah, obviously it's not this is not something that your husband wants. So why? Yeah, I mean you got a great life. No, you got a great life.

Kelli (20:13.088)
No, you don't need the money. Brahman doesn't need the money. He seems to be very, although I hate saying that about anybody anymore because...

I mean, Wendy Osefo, know, that whole thing with the insurance fraud. And now there's another allegation out there that Shemeah, a real housewife of Atlanta, she and her husband are under, or her husband's under investigation for something. So I hate to even say that about any of these people because who the fuck knows?

Lori (20:27.683)
Mm-hmm.

Lori (20:43.674)
Right, but what you're saying is why would you go on TV if you got something like that going on? Why? Why are you going on?

Kelli (20:46.894)
Oh, exactly. If you have any skeletons in your closet or you're doing anything that's not 100 % on the up and up, what are you doing? You're gonna get caught.

Lori (20:56.962)
Yeah, why would you do it? Yeah, I don't know. Yeah. And like even Lisa, it's passive aggressive. She says, well, I think there's some truth to that, but I don't think it's just me. Like she just can't. She just can't.

Kelli (21:13.11)
No, she's, no.

Lori (21:16.834)
So honestly, I think that she needs a shit ton of therapy. actually feel bad for her. I really think that she just doesn't know how to communicate correctly.

Kelli (21:25.398)
I'm starting to feel bad for her.

Kelli (21:31.202)
I think she needs to step away from the show, I really do. I don't know if she was always a narcissist, but I think she's developed into a narcissist because of the show. Never being able to say she's wrong, always blaming everybody else. I just feel like her stepping away, yeah. At least for her marriage.

Lori (21:45.034)
Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. Deflection, deflection, deflection, deflection, yeah. Yeah, something. So then Mary comes over to Angie's, and boy, she came in hot. She came in hot. I was laughing. was like, ooh, look at Mary.

Kelli (21:58.135)
She came in so hot. And Angie says she feels like she's going to the principal's office and she should know because she was a regular. I thought that was great. Mm-hmm. Yeah.

Lori (22:05.786)
Yeah, but now she's afraid. Yeah, it was so funny. Yeah, she like, bitches are out about the drink. She bitches are about because she answered the door. I was like, oh, Mary's pissed. And then Angie says she wants to start with an apology. She says she knows Mary was trying to help her and calm her down. But she said it's hard for her to allow somebody to bully her and to not respond.

Kelli (22:19.489)
Yep.

Lori (22:34.926)
But Mary says, you know, Angie, you're kind of becoming a bully yourself. And Angie felt like she wasn't being a bully that she was just responding. Yeah. But Mary tells you, get so angry that you can't even focus and you don't even hear people. She says, we're in the sisterhood and I can't get you to calm down. So then what am I here for?

Kelli (22:43.98)
defending yourself.

Lori (22:57.848)
you know, and that, you know, she's upset because she feels that, you know, that Angie would allow someone to get her that mad that it's actually affecting Angie and Mary's friendship.

Kelli (23:10.402)
Right, yeah, she said Angie's acting, yeah, she said Angie's acting different and it's a trigger for her. And she doesn't even think that Angie's seeing herself right now. Which is very good advice from a friend. That's really good advice, like something really good for your friend to tell you. Like, I don't even think you're seeing what's going on right now.

Lori (23:11.874)
And she said, that's where the problem is. Yeah.

Lori (23:17.762)
Mm-hmm.

Lori (23:25.304)
Mm-hmm.

Lori (23:31.07)
yeah. Right, right. But Mary was still, she was still not having it. She was like, you're supposed to be my sister. Angie says, I am. She says, no, you're not. Find another one, okay? Sassy. I like a sassy Mary. And Angie says, I don't want to be on egg shells. I just want to be able to be myself. But Angie's, Mary says, but you're different lately.

Kelli (23:48.652)
You

Me too.

Lori (24:00.6)
You know, you're going backwards, you're not evolving. You don't evolve by attacking somebody else. And it tells you she's a little mean. Because she made fun of her fart.

Kelli (24:05.772)
Right, right.

Kelli (24:12.588)
that for I don't even want to get into it it was so real why I went to say weird and wild at the same time

Lori (24:20.214)
We're involved at the same time. How about you should know the difference between my fart and the dog's fart?

Kelli (24:27.552)
I mean, at the end, they're arguing over whether or not.

Lori (24:30.744)
I don't know how Angie didn't bust out laughing.

Kelli (24:36.054)
like Mary's like, you didn't smell my fart and Angie's like, I did smell your fart. I'm like, I can't believe this is what we're talking about on How's Wives.

Lori (24:44.908)
I don't know how Angie didn't bust out laughing and be like, are you fucking for real? Are you for real? We're having a fight about farts now? Really, Mary?

Kelli (24:48.498)
I-

Kelli (24:55.155)
I mean, I cannot even believe it.

Lori (24:58.938)
Yeah, so Mary said she felt Angie was disrespectful to her on several times now and it's making her pull back on the friendship. But I like this. Angie grabs her hand because she knew she had to break through this whole. And then Mary and her confessional says, I don't let people in, when I.

Kelli (25:13.506)
Yeah, and Mary's like, not there yet, we're not there yet, but she grabs it.

Lori (25:23.768)
do, you know how I feel about you. have you on a pedestal. want you to thrive. I always want you to win. And she's starting to get upset. And she says, when I love someone, I really, really love them. And she tells Angie, that, know, she lives her life with a guard up because she's been dogged. It's just funny. This only happens for me every 20 years. But I loved it. Angie said, you are my person.

Kelli (25:46.062)
Yeah.

Lori (25:53.464)
And then Mary says, I didn't come here to cry. came here to tell you off. That's great. And then Mary says she can't be without Angie and Angie says she's going to work on herself and they hug and make up. So that was nice.

Kelli (26:04.908)
Yeah, Mary said, I don't think I can live without you. I love that. That was very sweet.

Lori (26:07.756)
Yeah. Yes. Very sweet. Very nice. I think they have a great friendship.

Kelli (26:15.116)
Me too. I like to say it. I really do.

Lori (26:20.73)
The Mary and not Mary and Lisa, good God. Heather and Lisa meet up at the store. This is a good one.

Kelli (26:28.526)
Katie Waltman. I didn't look her stuff up, but it looked very cute.

Lori (26:31.362)
No, look good. Yeah, I cute.

Kelli (26:35.103)
God, when Lisa asked Heather if she could bring glam on the yacht.

Lori (26:38.97)
And I love how production went back to her glam meltdown in, yeah, was it? Palm Springs, yeah, yeah.

Kelli (26:44.812)
Trixie's Trixie's motel. Yep. Yep. Yep. And Heather said, absolutely not. You're not bringing glam. I mean, you're going on a yacht. Like we've seen these yachts. they're not, some of them are not like, you you got two single beds in a room. You have a primary and then two. So it like literally sleeps like six.

Lori (26:50.436)
just too much.

Lori (26:55.084)
Now, now she says

Kelli (27:11.598)
They're gonna have to upgrade it to the one that sleeps eight, but where do you think your glam is sleeping, asshole?

Lori (27:12.116)
She just needs this.

Lori (27:17.95)
in three days, for God's sake. Heather tells her that Whitney can do her glitter eyeshadow in the liner and Angie can blow out her hair and she's like, don't trust Angie to do anything. And now what a comment to say, that'll be nice for Angie, she's never been on a luxury trip like that or a yacht.

Kelli (27:23.852)
Thank you.

Kelli (27:36.974)
Like how does she know? How does she know?

Lori (27:38.756)
But you gotta give, know, not necessarily huge Heather fan, but you gotta give her props on this one.

Kelli (27:46.466)
Listen, I was extremely happy to see Heather.

Lori (27:50.026)
Mm-hmm. She says, yep, she says, I'm not going to haze Angie.

So, know, Lisa calls Angie a mean bitch and Heather tells her if that's what you're calling Angie, then that's what you are too, because you're acting the same way. And you're like this, Lisa asked Heather what she thinks Lisa did wrong. And there's no pause, no opportunity for her to answer. She was, she did not ask her so that she could receive an answer. She asked her.

Kelli (28:20.63)
No, no. And she said, she's right. She says she's tired of Angie's digs and Heather's like, I think she's tired of you digging too.

Lori (28:25.412)
so that she can give her opinion.

Lori (28:32.89)
Mm-hmm. And they said, what digs do I make? Heather's like, are you kidding me? Are you for real? And she said, what you're saying you hate about Angie, exactly what you did.

Kelli (28:38.798)
Mm-hmm.

Lori (28:47.492)
Please just, like how? How did I go low? And Heather says, the soup man.

Kelli (28:54.166)
And by the way, you just went low two seconds ago when you said that she's never been on a luxury yacht before. Every time you talk about her, you're going low.

Lori (28:54.232)
and then Lisa corrects her.

Lori (28:59.48)
Of course, of course.

Yes, she's delusional. That's the problem. So then she corrects her and says that it is Suit Man, not Superman. So, Suit Man allegedly originated from the Call Her Daddy podcast. So, this Alex Cooper did a show with her friend Sophia Franklin.

Kelli (29:07.158)
Mm-hmm. Yeah.

Lori (29:32.89)
And Sophia's boyfriend at the time was referred to as Suit Man and he was supposedly an HBO executive. So eventually those two split their and had their own podcasts and Alex kept call her daddy and Sophia launched her own podcast. And then in 2023, Sophia had Meredith Marks as a guest on her podcast and told her that her ex-boyfriend, aka Suit Man, used to date Angie Kay.

So I don't know about that.

Kelli (30:03.617)
Yeah.

Yeah, so I saw something quick about that. I'm glad you had the details, because I saw something quick. I saw that it was soup, not soup, and it had something to do with the call your daddy. But it's not very clear if she dated him prior to her and John being together, but I do think her and John were very, very young when they got together. So I think it's ins...

I think that this whole thing is insinuating.

Lori (30:36.686)
that Angie

Kelli (30:41.884)
that's right. I'm sorry, Sean, not John, Sean, cause it's Angie. Right. Right. Right. We're both screwing up the name. Right. Right. Well, I don't know. I think I'm sure it was prior. Whatever. But this is the thing. Like, why are you bringing that up, Lisa? If you don't dig on people, why are you bringing that up?

Lori (30:52.794)
soon.

Who knows.

Yeah.

Lori (31:09.422)
Then why are you right?

Kelli (31:13.346)
I mean, I think I could be wrong, but I think Angie, Lisa and Heather all went to high school together.

Lori (31:20.068)
I think so. feel like they did. I feel like they did. I think you're right. Well, listen.

Kelli (31:21.962)
Yeah. So Lisa might've known this just from, you know, being an old class. I don't know, but why are you bringing it up?

Lori (31:29.166)
Who knows? Hey, listen, in Heather's confessional, she says Lisa's just throwing shit on the wall to see what sticks. And that could certainly be the case. And how do you like that when she tells Lisa there's a reason no one ever rides hard for you because everybody's been burnt by you and everyone at the table has a history with you where you have gone low?

Kelli (31:55.564)
Yeah, she says you're a risky friend.

Lori (31:57.038)
You know, if I have a friend or even somebody that I work with and they said something like that to me, I think I would leave hysterical crying, but I would be leaving on the fact that like, shit, what did I do? Like, how did I fuck something up that bad that someone felt like they had to say that to me? Like I would go into like self-reflection, not-

Kelli (32:12.694)
Yeah. no, that's never.

Kelli (32:24.319)
out

Lori (32:25.434)
That's not going on here. Maybe I shouldn't go on the boat.

Kelli (32:27.278)
She's never going. Right. That's her takeaway.

Lori (32:31.64)
you know, defensive instead of listening and then goes to walk away and says, and tries to bring Angie into that conversation. I don't know where she was going with that. And Heather says, you don't listen and you don't need to get upset.

So Heather's making sense.

Kelli (32:47.158)
No, she didn't like that Heather was trying to make her accountable for her actions. When Heather said you're a risky friend, I'm like, I am so proud of her. Heather is nobody's employee. She is nobody's employee.

Lori (32:51.322)
Mm-hmm.

Lori (32:57.112)
Yeah, a big clap out to Heather on that.

And then Lisa and her confessional. is Heather blind and deaf? How come nobody sees all the times everyone comes for me? Starting with Heather and then production flashes back to Heather calling Lisa out. For saying Heather's a good time girl flashing her boobs. Well, I don't know what you were trying to...

I don't know what you were trying to say, Lisa, because you were the one who was coming for Heather.

Kelli (33:26.26)
Exactly. You said it first season. Lisa wanted nothing to do with Heather. But this is where I struggle with Heather. A lot of times I think she just wants to be friends with Lisa so bad. Although this is kind of proving me wrong and I'm happy to say it.

Lori (33:28.718)
Yeah.

Lori (33:41.7)
Well, I think that you're right. think that she always has wanted that. And I think now that she's, but now that she's got it, now she's like, I don't know. Right. What was I, what was I striving for? Absolutely. Yeah. So Lisa says, I'm glad I gave you a book title. it's just stupid.

Kelli (33:44.846)
because Lisa must have been like the cool girl.

Kelli (33:50.796)
Yeah, what the hell was I striving for all these years? Yeah, yeah.

Kelli (34:01.403)
my god, she took credit for her book title.

What do you think about Heather doing that?

Kelli (34:13.442)
docu-series about breaking away from the Mormon church. Yeah, she's doing some docu-series. I don't know how I feel about it. Like, listen, it's the same, yeah, I just feel like, you know, if it's not your gig anymore, it's not your gig anymore. You know, it's still a faith and a lot of people still believe in it. And for you to come out,

Lori (34:17.987)
I didn't know anything about it.

Lori (34:25.55)
Do feel like the book was enough?

Lori (34:34.618)
Mmm.

Kelli (34:42.91)
And I don't know, like ridicule it.

Lori (34:47.3)
But isn't that what she did in her book? So what's the difference?

Kelli (34:48.886)
Yeah, basically I guess. I mean it's like Leah Remini coming out against Scientology I guess.

Lori (34:53.572)
There you go. You know what I mean?

Kelli (34:56.78)
and that other woman who wrote that book on orthodox. Yeah, I guess people do it. Yeah, freedom of speech, right? That's why we live in America.

Lori (35:00.354)
You know, so yeah.

Yeah. Mm-hmm. So Lisa says she can move forward, but she doesn't think Angie can. And then Heather tells her that they all feel bullied by her. And that, like you said, she's a risky friend. And then she's just unbelievable. Well, I don't feel like I am, and I'm sick of being labeled that way. Girl, if people, like I said, if somebody said that to me, I'd be like, shit.

Kelli (35:21.481)
She leaves.

Kelli (35:31.47)
There's a common denominator here and it's you. You're the common denominator.

Lori (35:33.538)
Yes, and it's you. Right. you know, if people keep saying the same thing to you, there must be a kernel of truth in it, especially people that are close to you.

Lori (35:50.051)
I mean, you know.

Kelli (35:50.743)
As Heather DeBrow said at a reunion to Alexis Bellino a few seasons back, quite a few seasons back, when everybody's telling you you're dead, it's time to lie down. And I don't like the reference to death, if everybody's telling you the same thing over and over and over again, you have to at some point stop and think, maybe they're onto something.

Lori (36:05.943)
Mm-hmm.

Lori (36:09.539)
The same thing.

Lori (36:16.812)
Right, maybe there's something I need to examine within myself.

Kelli (36:20.864)
If you can't find one person in this group of friends for you to go to and be like, and they're like, they're, I don't know what they're talking about. That's not really how you are. You can't find one person in this group of friends to say that, not even Meredith. Especially Meredith after what you did to her. And I'm not a huge Meredith fan, but I mean that Hot Mic moment, lordy lordy, like that was crazy, crazy.

Lori (36:35.896)
Right, then.

Lori (36:46.272)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. So Heather tells her, want to move forward with you, but until you clear it up or change, which I think was the operative word, it's never going to go away. And then we move to Brittany and her daughter, Olivia.

Kelli (37:04.076)
I'm so interested to see what you think about this.

Lori (37:09.24)
So first of all.

She had to ask to hug her, which tells you a lot. Tells you a

Kelli (37:18.306)
Yes. Yes. And it was an awkward hug. Which, some hugs can be awkward, but you hope it's not with your daughter. Although my daughter's not a big hugger and sometimes I make her hug me. And it can be awkward, so...

Lori (37:22.362)
It was very awkward. Right, right, right.

Lori (37:31.486)
yeah, definitely. Don't be thinking I'm over here because I'm like getting all kinds of loving.

Kelli (37:37.196)
I make both my kids hug me from time to time. They don't love it. They'll hug everybody else, but you whatever.

Lori (37:42.168)
Yeah, yeah. So Brittany says that the psychic gave her courage to focus less on her romantic relationship, but more on her relationship with the daughter. And this to me was so odd. Brittany tells the story that when she got divorced from their dad, the kid's dad, she wanted to create a perfect family. And I stopped and wrote this down because I just like, did I just, did she just say that?

She wanted to create a perfect family, so she got remarried. She said when she could finally be a wife, then she could be a perfect mom. I was like, what? What?

Kelli (38:21.528)
wife.

Kelli (38:30.092)
I think this goes back to the Mormon belief that what makes you a good Mormon is being a good wife, being married. Yeah, I think that's what this goes back to.

Lori (38:44.46)
I guess.

Lori (38:49.304)
I just don't think the bulb's real bright.

Kelli (38:54.35)
That is like a huge understatement. I mean, it's out. It's out.

Lori (38:56.602)
You

It's barely twinkling.

It's out to light up. So how about when she asked her mom, do you remember when we tried this last time?

Kelli (39:11.182)
Yeah. Yeah.

Lori (39:12.9)
So she had a 30 minute break between jobs and they planned to meet up at Brittany's house and she came over and Jared came over at the same time. She said they made out in front of her and her mom didn't even like look at her.

Kelli (39:27.288)
So weird.

Lori (39:28.692)
So weird. Just bizarro, bizarro, bizarro.

Kelli (39:33.866)
Now, I thought her daughter got extremely fired up during this conversation, which, okay. But didn't you think that this whole thing was very performative on both of them?

Lori (39:50.41)
Hmm.

Kelli (39:53.95)
I thought her daughter was just as performative as she is.

Lori (39:57.806)
Well, maybe like mother like daughter. Interesting, that was your take.

Kelli (40:02.7)
Yeah. And I feel bad saying that. Like, and I feel like insensitive to what this girl's gone through. Like, cause she said, like, my mom was a great mom. She was always there. She was at everything. And then all of a sudden she wasn't.

Lori (40:14.146)
Right. When she was 12, right, when she was 12, she married somebody else and switched one off. Yeah.

Kelli (40:19.766)
Yeah, so, but I just thought this was, I just thought for some girl who's never been on camera before, she really, she performed very well.

Lori (40:29.22)
She does pretty good. That's all right. That's usually my role. Yeah, I like it. I'm rubbing off. So Brittany says, I've been in habit of choosing men over kids that I don't even get to see. And the daughter was like, whoa, whoa, whoa. You can't put that on us. You can't talk about how sad you are because...

Kelli (40:35.47)
but I could just be insensitive.

Kelli (40:40.79)
I know! That's why I was interested to see what you thought.

Lori (40:58.158)
You have kids that don't talk to you. So, interesting.

Kelli (41:04.918)
Well, it looks like they're going to try, right, to move forward.

Lori (41:08.184)
We'll see. Hey, I think that's up to, Brittany.

Kelli (41:11.79)
And yeah, for sure.

Lori (41:16.386)
And then, you know, her daughter says, you know, I put myself in my shoes, but I would never do what you did. Why did you do it? And I don't think she knows.

Kelli (41:25.582)
don't think she knows, and I hate to keep giving her an excuse, because I'm not a Britney fan, but I really think that in the Mormon culture, your worth is in your marriage. If you're divorced and not remarried, you have no worth to them.

Lori (41:37.316)
judged on

Lori (41:44.696)
Right. Yeah, I guess. But you know, the kid said, you know, you need to figure out why you did it. So that doesn't happen again because she said it was her biggest fear. And then Brittany says, yeah, Brittany says, yeah, you're my precious baby. And the daughter says that you know nothing about.

Kelli (41:53.292)
Right. Right.

Yeah, I mean that's the most important thing. Don't do it again.

Lori (42:06.872)
So I don't know. I don't know what's gonna go wrong with those two.

Kelli (42:08.332)
Yeah. Yeah, I don't either.

Lori (42:12.378)
And then Heather meets up with Meredith and Meredith comes for a walk in a shorts. Yep. And a short skirt and boots, even though she stubbed her toe, she's still, I'm like, what are you doing? Yeah. What, why are you wearing those shoes? How about a sneaker? How a sneaker? How about a nice sneaker?

Kelli (42:18.07)
in high-heeled boots.

Kelli (42:27.31)
chipped her tooth.

Kelli (42:31.842)
Right. Right.

for a walk.

Lori (42:37.082)
for a walk. And then Heather tells Meredith that she shopping with Lisa and she felt like she wasn't getting through to her at all. Says she loves Lisa and the friendships and she wants to defend her, but she doesn't want to be a fool. Pretty good guess there, Heather.

Lori (42:58.776)
And then she said she was at least his friend for four years and the friendship is new. And it's the first time she is seeing how Lisa really operates. Which I never thought I'd hear Heather say that.

Kelli (43:09.806)
Me neither, me neither.

Lori (43:12.718)
She said Lisa has a very specific move to dig up dark skeletons and that she should have evolved by now. And then Heather asked Meredith, why did you let Lisa off the hook at Whitney's party?

Kelli (43:21.643)
Yeah.

Lori (43:28.374)
And Meredith said when they had their falling out, profusely apologized for years. And Heather said, that's because she got caught and she couldn't deflect. She couldn't weave and bob. She was caught and she owned it because she had to.

Kelli (43:42.222)
because she was on camera. There was no way for her to deny that she did that.

Lori (43:43.884)
she had to. Right? She had to. Yeah. And Meredith says she doesn't have a great track record with Angie so she's gonna give Lisa the benefit of the doubt until she has proof otherwise.

Kelli (43:56.653)
Yeah, that's, I mean, I guess, but I don't know. If I'm an outsider, man, Angie just seems like a much more stand-up person.

Lori (44:08.496)
most definitely.

Kelli (44:11.072)
I mean, she obviously likes to find her things, but she also obviously works very hard for them and seems like she appreciates them.

Lori (44:20.28)
Yes.

Kelli (44:22.902)
and doesn't try to pretend she has more than what she has. That's the thing.

Lori (44:27.512)
That's the thing, absolutely. Or is not so braggy, just stop with the bragging. Yeah, stop with the flexing. And Heather says she doesn't want to be in a friendship where she has to watch her back. And Meredith says nobody should be digging up secrets on friends. And I was like...

Kelli (44:32.908)
Right, she doesn't flex.

Yeah.

Kelli (44:48.418)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Right.

Lori (44:48.538)
Okay Meredith, okay Meredith. Okay Meredith.

And Heather said, you know, lot of us have done things, but we're able to say sorry for them. And she would like Lisa to do the same.

Kelli (45:02.403)
Yeah.

Lori (45:04.378)
So then Mary and Angie go to Whitney's and talk to them about their preference sheets for the yachts, vacation. I really would like a preference sheet for my home address.

Kelli (45:16.216)
Yeah

Lori (45:18.586)
That's what I would like.

Kelli (45:19.566)
Me too. Me too.

Lori (45:21.882)
But now you see, this is a thing.

Like I love Angie, but it's just the way she says things sometimes. Like you could have said, my gosh, I saw this stuff online about Brahman. I wonder how she's feeling. I wonder if any of it's true, but you know, she has to bring it up as tea and got, you know what I mean? Like just, there's a way to bring things up, to still bring up the subject that you want to talk about.

Kelli (45:31.537)
I know.

Kelli (45:49.026)
Gossipy, gossipy. Yep.

Lori (45:57.69)
without sounding like how she sounded. You know what I mean?

Kelli (46:01.295)
Quite honestly, we could have done without that whole scene. So this is what I think. I think production told Maryam and Angie to go to Whitney's to talk about the preference sheet. Then production told Angie, you have to bring up the Bronwyn headlines.

Lori (46:17.636)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Kelli (46:19.34)
Because we didn't need that scene at all. That whole preference sheet.

Lori (46:21.836)
At all, No, it's foolishness. Yeah.

Kelli (46:25.506)
Because quite honestly, the, what's the word I've been using lately?

I forget, but formula, the formula that How's Wives has been going on. Had we not needed somebody to bring up the Bronwyn headlines, what Bravo would have done was we would be on the yacht, we would be watching them on the yacht, and then they would flash back to that scene. Something would come up with a preference sheet where Mary's not gonna eat something, and they would flash back to the scene of them in Whitney's kitchen talking about the preference sheet.

Lori (47:00.746)
Right, right, right, right.

Kelli (47:02.508)
The only reason they showed us this now is because they wanted somebody to bring up the Brahmin headlines.

Lori (47:07.054)
to bring it up. Yep. And how, yeah. And how about Mary saying she's been on a yacht before and she likes how it rocks her to sleep since she was never rocked to sleep. It's horrible.

Kelli (47:10.38)
We see you, Bravo.

Kelli (47:19.552)
I know, I know. The references she makes to her mom, like, it's very sad. Yeah, it's very sad.

Lori (47:25.178)
That's sad. Sad.

This is of the greatest joys in life is to rock your kid to sleep. And this is sad for Mary and even sadder for her mom. Like, come on.

Kelli (47:35.252)
Amen to that.

Kelli (47:39.636)
Mm-hmm. I still remember with Tess, like I had, we had a rocking chair that my grandfather gave my mother, and then Terry had it, and Patty had it, and then I had it. And I still remember doing that.

Lori (47:54.074)
It's just sad. Just very, very sad. And then we wrap it up with Bronwyn and Todd meeting up and then talking about this legal matter that was 10 years ago dismissed and sealed.

Kelli (47:57.997)
Yeah.

Kelli (48:12.174)
So it was basically identity, alleged identity theft, I think she said. I think that's what it was. But yeah, she said it was sealed.

Lori (48:17.178)
don't know. Yeah, I don't know if she... Yeah.

and dismissed, so I don't know.

Kelli (48:24.142)
She mentioned that she made some mistakes in college.

Lori (48:27.93)
Yeah, she said something about she didn't pay her rent or something, which is nothing. Come on. So who knows what all this stuff is? But again, why do you come on a reality show when there's something that you know that can be brought up like that? Like, what are you doing? Yeah, but still, it's there. It's there.

Kelli (48:43.854)
Well, if it's sealed, nobody's gonna ever know about it. It's there. Yeah.

Lori (48:54.13)
And whether Bronwyn was being a good actress, playing the part of Bronwyn Newport or not, it did seem like she felt very bad that it could affect Todd and his business and how he's seen. Yeah.

Kelli (49:07.374)
Fuck yeah man, Todd's the bankroll. Todd's bankrolling this whole shenanigans with the mother living in the house and the daughter's boyfriend. You could have fucked this all up. Yeah, if this affects his work.

Lori (49:13.859)
Yeah.

Yeah, the whole thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, but she does seem like she feels bad about it.

Kelli (49:25.856)
Yeah, she says she probably shouldn't go on the trip and he says he doesn't understand why she would want to spend time with these ladies. And basically there's a good chance that Lisa's guilty of starting or at least perpetuating these rumors.

Lori (49:37.042)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Yeah. And I like how he says he wouldn't piss on Lisa if her brain was on fire. It's great. That's pretty good. And Todd tells her, you're going to go, don't come home complaining that you and Lisa got into a fight. All right?

Kelli (49:45.902)
That was pretty good.

Kelli (49:53.068)
Yep. I understand if you go, but don't come home and complain.

Lori (49:57.228)
I don't complain about it because this is what you want. So next episode, Heather says, Lisa's the problem, Angie throws up, and the yacht staff says they're literally killing each other in a British accent. So that's all I have.

Kelli (50:00.879)
Yeah.

Kelli (50:08.728)
yeah.

Kelli (50:15.982)
That's all I got to.

Lori (50:20.504)
So we shall see what madness goes on next episode.

Kelli (50:25.206)
Yeah I'm looking forward to the yacht so that should be next week right we should see them on the yacht yeah yeah I'm looking forward that

Lori (50:29.924)
That should be next week. No. Not looking forward to watching Angie Puke, but other than that, other than that, I'm up for it.

Kelli (50:35.98)
No. No.

Kelli (50:40.91)
Yeah, so definitely check out Wiveswap with Angie Kay. It was a good one. I forgot how that show, like they followed how Wiveswap always did. you know, they go by, me too. Me too. Yeah.

Lori (50:46.074)
All right,

Lori (50:54.244)
I used to love that show. I watched that all the time. It so good. It was so good. Yeah. I think it was a brilliant move on Bravo's part.

Kelli (51:04.008)
I agree. think, I think them branching out from Housewives, like keeping Housewives involved, but doing other things other than Housewives. Cause I said it the other night when we were doing Potomac, I'm just over it. Like actually Salt Lake City, I know, but Salt Lake City, like I'm still into, like I, I'm enjoying it, but quite honestly, the other ones OC over it.

Lori (51:11.072)
other things. Yeah.

Lori (51:16.314)
Mm-hmm. You don't need to tell me. You don't need to...

Lori (51:26.83)
Yeah, I don't mind watching that one.

Kelli (51:31.97)
Miami over it, Potomac over it. Like they need to get new people, they need new blood.

Lori (51:35.244)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (51:40.759)
say.

Lori (51:42.264)
And they need to make it be so like, I've said this before, this whole, like, I don't know who in the world has these relationships because I certainly don't.

Kelli (51:52.182)
No, that's the problem. No, that's the problem. They don't. These aren't real friendships. These are show friends.

Lori (51:56.09)
I right. Right. And I think that they make them so...

just so backstabbing and they make you not like the characters. And like someone like Tamara, if that's really not who you are, or even Lisa Barlow, if that's not how you... Why in the world for I don't care what amount of money, why would you go on a show where everyone sees you and that's how you're portraying yourself? You're not even saying you're playing a role.

Kelli (52:28.696)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (52:34.125)
Right.

Lori (52:34.2)
So even if you're acting, why would you, I just don't understand. I totally don't understand why you would want to think, why you would want anybody to think that that is your reality, that that's how you really are, whether you really are like that or not. It's just bizarre. All right, I'm done. I'm done with my housewives rant. All right, so thank you for listening and watching, and we would appreciate some lovely reviews.

Kelli (52:39.79)
Totally agree.

Kelli (52:53.87)
Totally agree.

Kelli (53:03.882)
Mm-hmm. And downloads and subscriptions and tell your friends. Yes, interaction. We love it.

Lori (53:05.612)
And we'll, yeah. And answer our questions that we ask. Yes. Yeah. Except for just don't call us old hacks. We already know who are. We know. We don't need any reminders. We have mirrors in our house. Yep. All right. So good night.

Kelli (53:16.854)
That's right, we don't need any reminders. We have mirrors in our house.

Kelli (53:25.347)
Bye.