RHOP-Binders, Baggage, and Bad Vibes

RHOP-Binders, Baggage, and Bad Vibes

RHOP S10 E13- Altitude with Attitude 

Podcast Summary

This episode balances deep emotional moments with escalating tension as the ladies prepare for their Colorado trip.

Tia visits her late father’s former home with her sister Ameera and her twins, hoping to recreate a meaningful photo. During the visit, signs from her father feel almost too perfect—his birthday, June 11th, and a quote about praising performance over people—reminding Tia how deeply he wanted his children to remain close.

Back in Potomac, Giselle and Ashley meet with Wendy, reliving the success of their Fourth of July party and questioning Angel’s intentions ahead of the Colorado trip. Doubts linger about whether Angel genuinely wants friendship or is playing a longer game.

Ashley hosts a “6 to 60” family celebration honoring Dean’s sixth birthday and Uncle Lump’s 60th, but the real emotional moment comes when Ashley opens up about her mother Sheila entering rehab for the first time. Ashley shares that this is something she’s waited over two decades for, calling it a moment of healing and hope.

Monique hosts her Sip & Read event, introducing her book Love Letters from a Past Version of Myself. She explains the book as part of her healing journey and creates an interactive exercise using binders where each woman writes how she sees herself—and how she sees others. What begins as reflective quickly turns messy.

Wendy labels Kei as “fake,” Ashley shades Wendy in return, and Angel’s binder entry for Ashley—calling her “disappointing” and accusing her of not walking in her truth—sets off a major conflict. Angel rips the page out, questions why Ashley would come to her home if she feels that way, and ultimately uninvites her from the Colorado trip. Giselle, standing firm in loyalty, says if Ashley isn’t welcome, neither is she.

The group attempts damage control, revisiting an earlier comment where Ashley implied Angel may have been evicted. Angel clarifies her lease simply ended early, and Ashley apologizes, which Angel accepts—though the tension lingers.

Twelve hours later, the ladies arrive in Colorado, where Angel’s hosting style raises eyebrows immediately. The group is split between two properties, cell service is nonexistent, altitude warnings are emphasized, and room assignments cause instant friction. Giselle refuses to share a twin-bed room with Ashley, Wendy is given an entire lower level, and whispers about Angel’s housing situation resurface—prompting Angel to shut it down fast, making it clear she will not tolerate “toxic energy” on her property.

The trip may have just begun, but the altitude isn’t the only thing making it hard to breathe.

Transcript

Wendy (00:01.582)
Hi, welcome to We Won Whenever, I'm Wendy.

KELLI (00:04.798)
I'm Kelly.

Wendy (00:06.562)
We are talking about Real Housewives of Potomac, Season 10, Episode Number 13, Altitude with Attitude. I can see that.

KELLI (00:16.637)
Yeah, I thought it was a good one, actually.

Wendy (00:19.138)
This actually I thought was an interesting episode and I honestly thought it went pretty quick.

KELLI (00:23.655)
It did go quick. This episode went much quicker than the normal Potomac episodes this season.

Wendy (00:31.648)
Yeah, I thought so too. mean, there was a lot of strange things going on because we kind of start out with Tia and her sister, Amir, go visit the house that her father used to own and she brings her two kids with her. Like, that came out of the blue. I mean, I know she just met up with her sister and then all of a sudden they're visiting the house.

KELLI (00:46.409)
Yeah. Yeah.

KELLI (00:53.897)
But I didn't realize that she had lived in DC at one point. Like, cause she talks about living in England and her father, you know, having a place in Nigeria.

Wendy (00:58.296)
Yeah.

Yeah.

KELLI (01:08.255)
But I guess it makes sense, that's why she's in that area. Yeah.

Wendy (01:11.138)
That's why she's there, right. And that's where he loved to be. Like that was his favorite place to be. So when she gets inside, you the woman that owns the house is there with her two sons and they're very, you know, gracious and allowing them in. And I'm sure she's probably a Housewives fan, I would imagine.

KELLI (01:15.315)
Right. Right.

KELLI (01:30.675)
Yeah, yeah, because she said when she told her sons they were like, that's so cool. So if it were just one of us, it wouldn't have been as cool. Let's face it. With no camera crew behind us.

Wendy (01:35.266)
Yeah.

Wendy (01:40.903)
No, wouldn't.

Yeah, exactly, exactly. So she wants to recreate this picture of her and the twins sitting on the stairs. And that was kind of cool, I thought, the picture that she took. And then they're there and her brother winds up calling. And while her brother's calling, her sister sees this, like it's like a date and a positive saying.

KELLI (01:54.409)
Yeah. Yeah.

Wendy (02:09.154)
and the date happens to be June 11th with the saying on it, which is her father's birthday. And the saying was, praise should be directed at performance and not at the person. Which I don't know if that was meaningful or it was just the fact that it was his birthday and they were in the house and that was the date that was on there. I don't know.

KELLI (02:29.053)
Yeah, I mean, maybe they took away from it that, you know, now they have each other, even though how that came to be, their father basically stepped out on Tia's mother. Like, he basically had two families going at once. But, now they have each other.

Wendy (02:41.058)
bright.

He always wanted them, right, he always wanted all of his kids to be close, but it's kind of hard to do when you do that, right?

KELLI (02:50.279)
Yeah, yeah. Take a pretty strong woman to be like, sure. Come on in.

Wendy (02:55.53)
Yeah, come on in. Then we see Giselle and Ashley meet up with Wendy and they're talking about what a great job they did on their Fourth of July party. All right.

KELLI (03:06.927)
my god, that was such a jacked up party. I'm the least creative person in the world and I think I could throw a better party than that. That was horrible.

Wendy (03:12.17)
It really was. It really was.

Wendy (03:20.342)
Yeah, I don't know why they were patting themselves on the back for that one.

KELLI (03:23.645)
No, I mean, and look at Giselle's track record, like the party in her driveway, her dirt driveway, where people were slipping and falling.

Wendy (03:32.31)
Yes. Yes.

KELLI (03:33.981)
I mean, didn't Robin own a house at that time? With a running bathroom with running water?

Wendy (03:41.706)
I know. Crazy, right? And while they're there, they get the invitation from Monique to go to the sip and read party. Because I didn't realize Monique wrote a book, but Monique wrote a book. They're also talking about going to Angel's house and how they feel about that, like what their thoughts are. They're kind of worried because, well, Giselle and Ashley are worried because

KELLI (03:43.775)
Yeah.

Wendy (04:11.02)
Listen, they're not in a good place with Angel because they're shady tour.

KELLI (04:15.251)
Yeah, yeah, they're mean to her, basically. I find it a little unfortunate that Wendy spends so much time with Ashley and Giselle, quite honestly.

Wendy (04:17.942)
Right. Right.

Wendy (04:25.774)
I don't understand it.

KELLI (04:27.167)
With what's going on with Wendy aside, I always thought she was a very intelligent, you know, no-nonsense woman. I don't know, I don't like it. I don't like what's going on here.

Wendy (04:44.173)
Yeah.

So then we see Angel's talking to her sister Ingrid on the phone and she's telling her how the ladies are coming back to Colorado with her. And she's gonna get ready, you know, she's gonna get it all set up for them. Ashley has her family over. Okay, the theme of this party is from six to 60, because her son Dean is turning six and Uncle Lump is turning 60 and somebody else in between is turning something. I was like, okay.

That's a big theme, but OK, we got it all covered.

KELLI (05:14.621)
Yeah. Listen, at least she's showing us something at her home with her family. Like Giselle's doing none of that.

Wendy (05:22.752)
Yes, I agree. I agree. Right, no, I totally agree. I agree. So Ashley's mom is there, Sheila, and she tells us that she had told Ashley, I guess a little while earlier, that her partner, which his name is John, has gone into a treatment center. And that's a big deal. I mean, I think it's huge.

KELLI (05:51.156)
Yeah, because this is the first time they said, I mean, this man has obviously had some substance use issues for a while. So the first time he went into treatment, that's big.

Wendy (05:54.231)
Yes.

Wendy (06:04.184)
Yeah, Ashley said, 14-year-old Ashley has wanted this day for 23 years. So that is a long time. Yep, that's a long time. So I give him credit, and I hope Sheila is strong enough to do whatever she needs to do once he gets home. Because good thing he went. I think it's great. But I will tell you this, that I mean, it's

KELLI (06:10.589)
Yeah, that's a long time.

KELLI (06:18.793)
For sure, I hope he does well with it.

Wendy (06:32.982)
It's not always a great success rate your first time. Many, many people have to go back over and over again and they need the right support system at home to make sure that that happens. You know, I wish them well, but I just hope she's ready. I hope she's ready for this journey.

Wendy (06:54.412)
And then it's Monique's event and she's going to read some excerpts from her book. Her book is called Love Letters from a Past Version of Myself. Okay.

Okay.

KELLI (07:08.029)
I normally hop all over the Housewives books, but I gotta be honest with you, I'm not really interested in this one. And I like Monique, and that's no shade to her. It doesn't sound like it's my bag.

Wendy (07:14.766)
You're going to pass.

Wendy (07:20.778)
No, I get that. said that she didn't, she wrote this book because she was on her healing journey and she didn't realize that so many women had experienced similar things. So she did it with the intent to help others, I believe, you know, because of what she learned. And I think that that's true because even towards the end of the episode, when she's talking about, you know, what she sees in Angel with her relationship with her husband and she doesn't, and she admits she's like, I don't know Angel very well.

But what I see, you know, it reminds her of what she saw in her relationship with her ex-NFL husband. So I do think that her, like...

KELLI (08:02.431)
doesn't sound like it was a great thing that she said.

Wendy (08:05.544)
No, it wasn't a great thing that she said, but I'm just saying. No, it wasn't. It wasn't. I'm just saying I really think Monique's heart is in the right place in writing the book and in what she's saying about Angel. I think that she likes Angel. I think she's saying that she likes Angel. I personally don't think that Angel's a good fit for this show, regardless of what is going on with her husband, because of who these ladies are and what their intentions are. I think you could have the strongest relationship.

KELLI (08:07.294)
Right?

Wendy (08:35.542)
with your husband and he could be the best man ever, but to put up with the bullshit of Gisele and Ashley, like nobody needs that. Nobody needs that.

KELLI (08:46.287)
Absolutely. I totally agree with you. And I really like Angel and I would like to see her stay on the show. But I don't think she's I think that Ashley and Giselle are just bitter, jealous women. And when they sense someone is in a happy marriage, they can handle it. mean, literally, Giselle is doing the same thing to Angel that she did to Monique when Monique first stepped on the scene.

So I totally agree with you. I don't think Angel needs to put up with this BS. I think it's unfortunate. Kay, listen, I don't think she brings much to the show. I don't know what she's doing with Greg. I would like to see more of Angel. Yeah. But I don't think we're gonna get anything more out of Angel, because these girls aren't, they're not gonna stop calling her a catfish. I mean, it's ridiculous now. Like the catfish thing is played out. Please let it go. Stop.

Wendy (09:23.073)
Right.

Wendy (09:31.326)
We've said that a long time.

Wendy (09:46.338)
Yeah, no, I agree. I mean, after Monique does her excerpts from the book, she said that she hasn't healed her shady side, and she discovered that she is the binder bitch. she hands, I was very shocked by this, to be quite honest with you. She hands out binders to all these ladies, and they each have tabs in them.

KELLI (09:47.625)
So you're absolutely right.

Wendy (10:12.118)
And on the first page, they're supposed to write down what they think of themselves, like what kind of person they think that they are. And then she wants them, for each person who has their own tab, like what their view of that person is. Because what she was saying is, know, others' view of you is not always what you think it is. And I get the point and the premise of it. I just don't know that this was really the place to be doing this, especially considering there was other people there.

KELLI (10:40.177)
It wasn't the place to be doing it and most importantly because Monique, you just wrote a book, like a self-empowering book about yourself, hopefully to promote other women to self-reflect and self-empower themselves. So instead, you turned this little celebratory party into an opportunity for people like Giselle and Ashley.

Wendy (10:50.488)
Right.

KELLI (11:08.073)
to say mean things, because I'm pretty sure they were the only two who did, about other people sitting at the table. And of course those two heifers took the opportunity to do it.

Wendy (11:17.804)
Right. Right.

KELLI (11:18.975)
I mean, so no, it wasn't the time or place Monique, because it should have been a very empowering lunch for ladies and you turned it into what it turned into. And did you see Monique at the end? She looked at Ashley and she goes, I didn't know there was anything between you two. I'm calling bullshit on that. She 100 % knew that there was something between Ashley and Angel. And that was probably why she did this.

It was bad. It was a bad look for Monique and I was happy she came back, but this was a terrible move on her part.

Wendy (11:57.112)
So that's interesting. So you think that she did it on purpose. See, I, I mean, listen, I don't think it was a good thing.

KELLI (12:02.207)
know she did it on purpose, but I don't believe for a second that she didn't know there was something between Ashley and Angel, or Giselle and Angel, whoever's coming at her at the moment.

Wendy (12:11.926)
Yeah. So I did think it was interesting that, and it's probably because of everything that she's heard, that she first wanted to know who has Stacey's binder, because that's what started it. She said she collects all the binders and then she passes them out. She's like, well, who has Stacey's binder? And Giselle did, and they wanted to know what she said about Stacey, and her tab was empty. She said nothing about it.

about Stacy. What? Like that in itself. Right, that in itself is shady. Right. Didn't... Right, she went monogram her.

KELLI (12:41.033)
Giselle, no because she doesn't acknowledge her. Just like on the trip, she had nothing for Stacey. So I'm sorry, you're getting all jacked up because you gotta share a room with Ashley, yet you invited this woman on a trip where you're giving all these women gifts and you ignore her. She's disgusting, Giselle. She's a disgusting person.

Wendy (13:08.046)
The next thing, Stacey, let's see, Giselle said nothing about it and actually complicated, confused, nurturing and fun. Is that what Stacey said about Giselle? Why'd I write that down?

KELLI (13:23.293)
I thought she said it about Ashley. Did she say that about Ashley maybe?

Maybe it was Gisele. I can't see her calling Gisele fun. Gisele is not fun. I could see her saying that about Ashley though.

Wendy (13:33.748)
No, complicated, confused, nurturing, and fun. All right, I'm not sure who that was. Ashley said something about Dr. Wendy's book under Kay's tip. She wrote fake. So Dr. Wendy under Kay wrote fake and Kay's response is my bags are real. I mean, why is that your response, Kay?

KELLI (13:57.193)
So is your picture frame.

Wendy (14:03.989)
And then Stacy's like, can I have the mic? She's like, I want to go back to what Wendy said, you know, like, why do you feel that Kay is fake? And when he said, well, before we resumed as a group, and this is what she has been saying the whole time, that Kay and I had thought we were in a good space. And then before they started filming, right? After they ended and then before they started, like in between, she thought that they were in a good space, right?

KELLI (14:19.583)
before they started filming.

KELLI (14:27.505)
Yeah. Right.

Wendy (14:29.868)
And then once they resumed again with the group, know, Kay was a different person. So she felt like she's a different person on camera than she is when they're off camera. And that comes off as fake. And honestly, Wendy has been saying this from the beginning of the season about Kay. So this is nothing that has changed. I think that she's been consistent with this. She's been consistent and it makes sense. Ashley about herself says that she believes she's bubbly, bright, a bad bitch.

KELLI (14:47.015)
Right. Yes. Yes.

Wendy (14:59.886)
Growing and glowing to be the best mother, sister, friend, daughter, human I can be. Okay, I guess she's trying to write herself another song.

KELLI (15:08.809)
You have some work to do, Ashley. You have some work to do.

Wendy (15:11.592)
Yeah. And after... She definitely does. After she says that Giselle starts with, I don't think Angel agrees with that about Ashley. Okay, so Angel... This is what Angel says about Ashley. Disappointing, period. Strong mother, resilient and petty. I mean, I think that's pretty accurate. Yeah, I think it's pretty accurate.

KELLI (15:37.919)
Yeah, spot on.

Wendy (15:44.45)
The next we get to hear what Ashley said about Angel and there's nothing in the book. Angel said, well, I ripped it out because I don't receive this. She said catfish not fully walking in her truth. Listen, good for her. Good for Angel. And then she said to

KELLI (16:06.365)
And what does she mean not walking in her truth? Because of the whole evicting thing that they keep trying to say? I mean, I think so.

Wendy (16:09.805)
Right.

Wendy (16:14.552)
I mean, that's the only thing it could be, right? What else could it be?

KELLI (16:20.934)
I don't know.

Wendy (16:23.126)
And this is when Angel, once again, did stand up for herself. Listen, she said, if you don't think I'm walking in my truth, then why are you coming to my house? Maybe you want to rethink that decision. And then Wendy's like, well, is Ashley still invited to Colorado? And Angel said, listen, I put so much work and thought and care and love into this trip for every single person. Like, I don't know. Like, why would I want to have someone that feels this way about me, you know, come to my house?

And then Giselle has to jump in. Well, you know, this is my ride or die. This is my bestie. If she's not invited, then I'm not coming either. I would have been like, perfect. That's what I would have said.

KELLI (17:01.657)
Me too. Me too. And was it in her confessional that Giselle was like, I don't understand. We haven't even done anything to you. It's like, what?

Wendy (17:08.844)
Yes! Yes, that's what she said in her confessional. I was like... I know.

I know, I was shocked.

KELLI (17:19.933)
It's crazy.

Wendy (17:22.272)
Monique said, well, this definitely took a turn. I didn't anticipate this. So let's just take a break. I did actually like the way she did try to go over and kind of smooth it out because it was her activity that got it to where it was. She says to Angel, didn't know it was an issue, but when your husband was invited to the whole family event, this is where she finds out exactly what happened. And I don't know if Monique was there when that was going on.

KELLI (17:22.823)
It's crazy.

KELLI (17:51.037)
Monique didn't go to that. Monique wasn't at the Fourth of July party.

Wendy (17:53.101)
Well-

So I don't think that she, this is what I'm saying, I don't think she knew where, cause this is what Angel said was the problem with her husband is because when she came, you she was on the way to the party, they were running late, you know, her husband was on the phone. Right. He didn't want to go.

KELLI (18:10.771)
He didn't want to go.

Wendy (18:16.066)
And who did want to go? mean, Timo didn't want to go. I mean, Eddie does whatever Wendy says, right? Anymore, exactly.

KELLI (18:23.199)
They're not coming after Eddie any anymore, but they did remember see so they did the same thing to Wendy that they did to Monique They tried saying that Eddie was stepping out on her They they're horrible They're so horrible just mostly Giselle quite honestly because I don't think Ashley was involved in that that was Giselle and Robin Meanwhile, Walmart's, you know slinging his big day all around That was Robin and Giselle with with Wendy and Eddie

Wendy (18:34.264)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (18:47.234)
Yep. Yep.

But yes, absolutely. So then Angel says, and then when we finally show up there, Ashley asked me in so many words if I was evicted, and that's offensive. And Monique says, Ashley, Angel's offended. Ashley said, well, that's the way it sounded. It sounded to me like you were evicted. Like she's still standing on this moral high ground.

This is what I don't like about Ashley, is that she just digs her heels in for nothing. Like, how does it affect you? She really is like a child. Yeah, like this is not really your concern.

KELLI (19:21.489)
She's like a child. She's like a child. Yeah

But what I didn't like is that Wendy said, if you know these women, you would understand it's just shade. This is not shade. This is not shade. Alleging that someone got evicted from a property is not shade. It's a bold-faced lie. And I'm sure Wendy didn't feel that way, that it was just shade when they were saying that Eddie was cheating on her. You know what I'm saying? Like, why is it okay for, you know?

Wendy (19:38.253)
Yeah.

Wendy (19:54.102)
Well, that's the thing. Yeah. Yeah. No, I totally agree. And the fact that Wendy said, you know, if you knew these women, but she doesn't know these women. She doesn't.

KELLI (20:06.013)
Right, she doesn't and they're not giving her an opportunity to get to know them because all they're doing is coming at her negatively.

Wendy (20:15.074)
Right. Right.

Wendy (20:19.64)
So Monique says to Ashley, can you acknowledge that the use of that word offended Angel? And she said, yeah, I can acknowledge that. And Angel said, well, I apologize. Ashley said, Angel, I apologize that that word came out in this vernacular, and I'm sorry. I was like, god. Like, just really?

KELLI (20:40.585)
Just say you're sorry. That's like a, I'm sorry if that offended you or I'm sorry if that made you feel sad. Just say you're sorry and just leave it at that.

Wendy (20:42.304)
Yeah, just it.

Wendy (20:56.098)
Then we see 12 hours later, Stacey calls Angel and I for sure thought she was backing out of the trip.

KELLI (21:02.323)
Me too! Me too! Yeah!

Wendy (21:04.442)
That was what I thought for sure. But no. She was thanking her for the invite and she wanted to get another bit of clarification about the altitude warning. I was like, wait, what?

So I guess apparently, I didn't know this to be quite honest with you, I didn't know that you need to drink a lot of extra water before you go to places with high altitude because you're more likely to be dehydrated. I had no idea. I did know that like breathing was an issue. I knew that like the air, the oxygen wasn't as much in the air, you know, because of the altitude, but I had no idea about dehydration.

KELLI (21:34.247)
I didn't know that either. Yeah.

KELLI (21:44.669)
Yeah, me neither. Me neither.

Wendy (21:48.846)
So then we see all the ladies arrive in the airport and again Giselle has to make a comment like why isn't Angel here? Why are we not traveling together? I mean what does it matter?

KELLI (22:00.714)
Yeah, like she had to know she was going to the house early, well, to get it ready, even though they weren't even. But she had to, you know, get their accommodations ready. Like, she's just miserable, Giselle. She's just a miserable person. She's not enjoyable to watch.

Wendy (22:08.758)
Right. Right.

Wendy (22:18.808)
She really is.

I love that Angel met them at the airport once they landed.

KELLI (22:25.727)
Hmm?

Wendy (22:27.148)
And she had the two SUVs there waiting and I'm not sure about why she did this, why she had Stacey and Wendy go in her truck with her. Like that didn't make any sense.

KELLI (22:37.863)
I know. Especially because it wasn't K, like...

Wendy (22:42.114)
I know.

KELLI (22:45.577)
Well, she made me to make the point that you guys are gonna be happy about your accommodations, but not everybody is.

Wendy (22:46.166)
I thought-

Wendy (22:53.186)
Yeah.

KELLI (22:53.725)
And by the way, most of these women were wearing jeans on a plane. Get out of here. Get out of here with your denim on a plane.

Wendy (23:05.591)
She says to Miss Wendy, like you as a person. So you're gonna, I mean, we find out she gives her the whole lower level with, yeah.

KELLI (23:15.741)
Yeah, that was amazing. I would love that.

Wendy (23:18.454)
Me too, me too. So they ask about food.

KELLI (23:22.003)
I really don't need a big space. I would just super appreciate my own bathroom. I don't need a big space. I just would like my own bathroom. Like if I have to, if I'm away, I don't wanna have to share a bathroom with anybody. That would be amazing.

Wendy (23:38.552)
think it's hard though when you go to these places to have your own bathroom because you know yeah I think it's hard at least yeah

KELLI (23:40.945)
sure.

KELLI (23:46.867)
I mean every bedroom would have to have its own bathroom, which I obviously there are houses like that, but.

Wendy (23:53.42)
Right. I mean, I would say if I have to share a bathroom, it would only be with somebody who I really get along with. You know what I'm saying? But she says that there's going to be a private chef at the house. And she also lets them know that Ashley and Gisele are going to be sharing a room together.

KELLI (24:00.477)
yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely.

Wendy (24:20.62)
And they're also freaking out, all of them, that there's no cell phone reception where they're at. Which that doesn't surprise me. This doesn't surprise me. A lot of these mountain valley areas, it's hard to get reception when you're down in the valley part. Like it's just, it doesn't happen.

KELLI (24:28.295)
Yeah, I wouldn't be happy about that either, but...

KELLI (24:36.957)
Yeah.

Yeah.

Wendy (24:42.306)
So they all show up at the house. The house looks very nice. It's got a beautiful view. Angel introduces them to Bianca. She's the head movement and mindfulness guide. I don't know what that is, but sounds important for, yes, for her company, for the Wonderlands outdoor company that she has. And.

KELLI (24:57.407)
She's got her work cut out for her though.

Wendy (25:06.75)
Angel reminds them that drinking here, one drink is equal to two drinks. I guess again, because of the altitude. Again, I had no idea about this either.

KELLI (25:16.063)
but maybe that's why they tell you to hydrate so much. Like if you're gonna drink, like have a drink, have a water. Have a drink, have a water, which we should all be doing anyway at any altitude. It's just a, yeah, it's just a smart move, but I guess that altitude, you really, really should be doing it. hydrate, pre-hydrate.

Wendy (25:19.938)
Yeah.

Wendy (25:26.85)
I was going to say, that's what I do. Right.

Wendy (25:39.382)
Yes, yes. So she says, you we're gonna do some breath work and then I'm gonna let you ladies relax because you know, I know you've had a long day and Wendy's like, well, where are you going? She's like, well, I'm going back to my house. And Monique's like, wait, why aren't you staying at this house? And Angel's like, well, because there's not enough space. Honestly, she really didn't handle this well. I think that this should have been something that was a little bit planned out better.

KELLI (26:10.185)
She, listen, when they said her house was an hour away, because at first I was like, okay, she's going home. I thought that it was like down the hill. When they said her house was an hour away, I thought, okay. I'm wondering if maybe she was planning on having them at her house, but all this stuff going on with Giselle and Ashley, she was like, no, no. And then at the last minute had to find a house, and this is the only one that was available.

Wendy (26:16.429)
Yeah.

Right. Yeah.

KELLI (26:37.765)
I don't know, but an hour is a very long distance. Like, so basically you just got them settled. You're calling it for a night. You're calling it because you're gonna go drive an hour. You're not gonna come back in a couple of hours to then go back another hour. Like, you're calling it a night at this point.

Wendy (26:51.543)
Another hour.

Wendy (26:57.228)
Yeah, and not only that, but you're taking Kay and Jassy with you, right? Kay and Jassy? No, Kay and Tia. Wait, who's she taking? Kay and Tia. So she's taking, right, Jassy got an issue. So she's taking Kay and Tia with her. So that means, right, I get that she's taking Kay, because Kay is close with her, but again, you're separating them from the group. if you're not there, you know who they're talking about.

KELLI (27:04.895)
I think so, yeah. K and T, K and T. Yeah, cause Jassy got a nice room.

KELLI (27:16.095)
Which is

KELLI (27:20.467)
Yeah.

Wendy (27:26.498)
The people who weren't there!

KELLI (27:29.373)
Although, think about this, Kay and Tia were the two at her house helping her pack up, right, in Potomac to go back to Colorado. Maybe she's not all unpacked. Maybe her house is all in disarray. And they're the only two that she really trusts to see it like that, where they're not gonna run back and be like, you should have seen the house. Because even Wendy would do that to her at this point. Kay and Tia are probably the only two that would not go back and be like,

Wendy (27:53.892)
yeah, I think.

KELLI (28:00.788)
I don't know, we'll see when they get back to the house, we'll see what kind of condition it's in. If I just moved back from Potomac to Colorado, my house would be in disarray. So, I can assure you all of that. I wouldn't be hosting any.

Wendy (28:04.481)
Yeah.

Wendy (28:10.476)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (28:17.304)
So after she announces that to them, then she goes around and starts showing everyone their rooms.

Giselle and Ashley are sharing a room. Not only they're sharing a room, but there's twin beds in the room. That's tough. That's tough. And Giselle said, like, I'm not staying in that room. I bet you she's not staying in that room. My guess is she will be staying in Wendy's room downstairs. I don't know. I don't know.

KELLI (28:34.612)
Ha!

KELLI (28:48.809)
Yeah.

KELLI (28:53.971)
Listen, I thought it was hysterical that she did that to them with the rooms. I I thought it was justified.

Wendy (28:54.08)
I don't know.

KELLI (29:04.671)
I think she had every right to do that to them. What they do now is up to them. If they leave, somebody's done that on a Housewife show. Somebody has left because they didn't like their accommodations and went and stayed somewhere else.

Wendy (29:07.728)
I did too.

KELLI (29:20.531)
Who was it? Was it Uber?

Wendy (29:24.14)
No, she didn't leave. No, she wound up staying. I'm just trying to think. think I'm trying to think. Yep.

KELLI (29:24.255)
Remember uba?

KELLI (29:28.211)
Cause Sai gave her her room. Sai gave her the nicer room. Somebody did it though.

Wendy (29:33.164)
And it was too small. I was thinking Lisa did it in the Hamptons with Miami, but nope, she wound up staying also.

Who did it?

KELLI (29:43.775)
We're gonna figure it out. And if any listeners know, then please. Somebody laugh.

Wendy (29:46.806)
Yes, somebody, I think you're right, somebody did leave.

KELLI (29:51.776)
it's like on the, it's like right there.

Wendy (29:52.918)
Was it New York? Was it New York? I know Luanne threatened to leave because of the fish room. Did she ever actually leave? Like, don't know. We'll have to think about this. We're gonna have to rack our brains. We've got a lot of years of housewives in here.

KELLI (30:01.629)
I don't think she'll laugh. I don't think she'll laugh.

KELLI (30:09.703)
Erica Jane, Erica Jane left Teddy's Malibu home and went to, okay, that was gonna annoy the bejeepers out of me if I didn't think of it. But then Giselle and Ashley are acting like they had more information on Angel being evicted, right?

Wendy (30:15.426)
Yes, she did.

That's it. Great.

Wendy (30:23.35)
Yes, you're right. That was it. That's it.

Wendy (30:32.715)
Yeah, yeah, so that's what happens. And Giselle says that, well, we have more information about that. And Angel's like, well, we're going to get this out now because we're not doing this. Like, you're not coming back to my property and spreading your toxic energy. And Giselle, well, it's not for me to say.

KELLI (30:47.557)
Like why would she ever invite you to her home? This is what you've been doing to this woman as soon as she got on the scene Why would she invite you back to her home?

Wendy (30:54.904)
Right.

KELLI (30:59.165)
her safe space.

Wendy (30:59.532)
No, no. So this is where it ends. Like this is a to be continued. And I really want her to get to the bottom of this. listen, I'd be here for her throwing Gisele and Ashley out to be quite honest with you. Like, is ridiculous. Like someone needs to stop it. It needs to stop. Like we have more information about that. What more information is there?

KELLI (31:12.794)
Absolutely.

KELLI (31:23.155)
Right. And why do you care so bad that you're looking for more information? Why? It's like the whole Stacey and TJ, like Ashley get in that agreement, that payment agreement that anybody could doctor up, you know, anybody could, you know, that I really, I really think that that guy was lying at this point.

Wendy (31:32.48)
Yeah, exactly.

Wendy (31:43.534)
Right.

KELLI (31:50.653)
I still think that she and Timo are a little awkward, but whatever. I still think TJ was lying.

Wendy (31:59.362)
Listen, the more they come from Stacey, the more we like Stacey because of who Stacey is. Unfortunately, Angel doesn't have the same presence as Stacey does. And I feel like she's going to be one and done. I don't think that she's really built for this. I just don't. And she doesn't have enough support. And Kay's not strong enough support.

KELLI (32:03.154)
Exactly.

KELLI (32:10.439)
No.

KELLI (32:18.621)
Well, you're right. And Stacy.

Wendy (32:24.694)
I Stacey had no support and she could stand on her own.

KELLI (32:24.831)
No, exactly. Stacey is so unbothered by them. They could say, they can say anything and Stacey laughs it off. And you know, she just has that, you know, a host in her that QVC or, you know, HS that whatever she was on, like she just, yeah, she just has that presence. Like you said, Angel doesn't have it. they're

Wendy (32:42.059)
you

Wendy (32:46.488)
QBC.

KELLI (32:53.555)
There must have been things, well, she said, I mean, that thing about the woman, whatever that woman said about her. Once you already have things in your marriage like that, and then, you people, you know, you're just always on the defense, it seems like. Even if you don't have to be, it's hard not to be. I think they're really nice couple. I think they love each other very much, and I think that they're financially fine. I don't think she got evicted. I think the dates were off, and she didn't, she doesn't explain herself very well.

Maybe that's her biggest problem right now.

Wendy (33:24.59)
All right, yeah.

I don't think there's any explaining that Giselle or Ashley would be happy with anyway. So, you know.

KELLI (33:32.647)
Right, right. Good point.

Wendy (33:36.022)
I am looking forward though to the next episode, because I like the way they kind of left us in this little cliffhanger here. And I want to see what she does. I want her to really kind of stand up and be enough is enough.

KELLI (33:48.595)
Yeah, I hope she does. I hope she does and I hope it lands.

Wendy (33:53.846)
And what, so we're on episode 13. I don't know how many more episodes we have. I mean, we're gonna have another episode in Colorado. That will be 14, probably maybe 15 we'll get. And then, and then.

KELLI (34:04.733)
Yeah, I can't see there being much more because Salt Lake's ending on 16, right? And then we'll get a couple of reunions out of it.

Wendy (34:09.974)
Yeah. Yeah.

Alright, so we'll have to wait and see what happens until next week. Anything else you can think of?

KELLI (34:20.616)
No.

Wendy (34:21.964)
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KELLI (34:27.69)
bye.