RHORI: Trauma Confessions, Sick Kids & Explosive Video Proof 💔

RHORI: Trauma Confessions, Sick Kids & Explosive Video Proof 💔

Podcast Summary

On Day 2 of the Newport girls trip at Seaview Terrace, tensions are still simmering after the previous night’s drama. Rosie is physically sick and emotionally drained, while the group debates whether she needs more “nurture” or tough love. Kelsey attempts to smooth things over with Rosie in a surprisingly heartfelt one-on-one conversation, admitting she has a hard exterior but genuinely wants friendship. Meanwhile, Alicia and Jo-Ellen take a break from the chaos and open up about deeply painful childhood trauma, including Jo-Ellen being sent away to abusive facilities as a teenager and Alicia reflecting on abandonment issues connected to her father.

Back at the mansion, the women try to lighten the mood with an inflatable waterslide, flirty butlers, and a sunset catamaran cruise — until the mood shifts again when Ashley learns her son Dawson is being taken to the emergency room. The biggest bombshell of the episode comes later that night when Jo-Ellen reveals shocking video evidence allegedly showing Brian intimately embracing another woman just days before the polo match. The women debate whether they should show the footage to Rulla, fearing it will completely devastate her.

The episode wraps with juicy Watch What Happens Live moments featuring Jo-Ellen and Kelli Potter, including shady regrets, cheating allegations, and hilarious confessional admissions. 

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Transcript

Wendy (00:01.294)
Hi, welcome to We Wine Whenever, I'm Wendy.

Kelli (00:04.963)
I'm Kelly.

Lori (00:05.953)
and I'm Lorne.

Wendy (00:07.842)
We are talking about Real Housewives of Rhode Island, season one, episode number seven, boats, lies, and video tapes. my gosh, the fact that they said video tapes, they're just as old as we are. Remember when I said video tapes? There's no video tapes. Some of them are.

Lori (00:22.658)
Yeah, right. Video tapes. Yeah, that's great.

Kelli (00:24.43)
They are. Well, I mean, some of them.

Wendy (00:29.442)
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Kelli (00:46.052)
Thank you.

Wendy (00:48.618)
So it is Newport trip day two and they're at this still at the sea view terrace.

Alicia just cracks me up. just... The stuff that she says, talking to her dolls, the hallway is her favorite part of the castle. The hallway? I'm just like... Alicia.

Lori (00:58.674)
my god, she's hysterical.

Lori (01:08.504)
hallway. What? She's great. And I have seen some... Really? I think she's hysterical. Really? She doesn't bother me. I saw some social media posts that she did for like... All right, I'm a loser. What's the... Oh, cameo kind of things for people's birthday. Oh my God. Hysterical.

Kelli (01:14.714)
She's wearing on me, man. She's wearing on me. Guess.

Wendy (01:18.158)
I knew it was just a matter of time, Kelly. I knew it was just a matter of time.

Kelli (01:21.178)
It's wearing on me, man.

Kelli (01:32.803)
God.

I can't even imagine her on Cameo.

Lori (01:37.432)
going off on these different tangents about running the lady over and just the whole cracker like the whole my gosh she's she's fun

Wendy (01:46.372)
Ha ha ha ha ha!

Kelli (01:53.914)
Crazy.

Wendy (01:55.288)
So we see that Rosie is nauseous and that she threw up all last night. I'm a little confused about this. Like, is she sick? Because she said she was hungover. You think she's pregnant?

Lori (02:02.944)
You know what I wrote down? Are they prepping us for a pregnancy?

Kelli (02:03.256)
No.

Kelli (02:10.094)
No, I think she was very anxious about what happened the night before. I think Rosie talks a lot of game when nobody's around and then when confronted by the person she's talking about, she can't handle it.

Wendy (02:23.736)
Hmm, that could be, that could be.

Lori (02:25.186)
Could be.

Kelli (02:25.73)
I think that's what she was, I think she was very anxious and that's why she couldn't sleep. And that's why she was sick to her stomach. Cause she knew she was going to see Kelsey at breakfast. I could be wrong.

Wendy (02:37.058)
Yeah, mean, no, that's very possible. mean, so that's what happens next is they're down at breakfast and Rosie doesn't want to eat because she doesn't feel well. Alicia says it's the best yogurt she's ever had in her life. She could cry. Over yogurt? I'm just like, Alicia.

Lori (02:51.512)
Was she Ashley?

Kelli (02:56.302)
I mean, if Ashley said that exactly.

Lori (02:58.294)
Yeah. I'd like,

Wendy (02:59.35)
Exactly, exactly. Ashley actually had to excuse herself because her mom was calling her son Dawson needed his inhaler. I guess when he gets sick, he gets very sick and he has respiratory issues. And that's scary. It's totally scary. Alicia reaches out to Rula. She leaves her message to see if she's going to be able to show up today. don't know if she texts her or she calls her.

Lori (03:13.56)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (03:13.658)
Yeah. Yeah.

Wendy (03:27.0)
Kelsey and Joellen come down to the table, but Kelsey does not even acknowledge that Rosie's there. She just ignores her. Which I think at this point was good because they really hadn't had a talk yet and I don't think the breakfast table was gonna be the spot to do that.

But.

Liz is trying to talk and she's trying to explain that when things get blown up like this, sometimes you can't just walk in here in the morning like nothing has ever happened. You have to kind of address it. So Liz is trying to tell this to the table and Alicia is trying, she's interrupting her about like, is that what happened with Beyonce on stage?

Kelli (04:16.634)
with her alter ego. Was it Sasha Fierce or?

Wendy (04:19.298)
was like, wait, what?

Lori (04:22.754)
She was trying to say how, she was kind of trying to defend Rosie. She was trying to say like, you know, maybe this is just how Rosie handles things. She's just gonna act like it really doesn't bother her. this is kind of like, so that's why she was saying the alter ego, she just goes off on tangents. She's funny.

Kelli (04:41.039)
Yeah.

Wendy (04:45.24)
So.

Kelli (04:45.476)
Yeah, but it's like it's distracting and it's like like you just want to be like shut up Exactly

Wendy (04:48.014)
It's very distracting and like we don't know what she's talking about and Liz is trying to talk and Liz is like, listen, you know, her confessional, she's like, I love Alicia, but sometimes, is that what Sasha fears? Yeah.

Lori (04:52.29)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (04:55.822)
Yeah, Sasha Fierce. That's it.

Yeah, that's Beyonce's alter ego. Like when she gets on stage, she's not Beyonce. Or I guess she is Beyonce. Whatever, I don't.

Wendy (05:07.864)
So she was trying to say that that's how Rosie was, that when she just comes out, she just comes out with her alter ego, so she's not going to just address the situation that had happened.

Lori (05:19.638)
Actually, I think Sasha Fierce was, that was really the, the girl from Next Top Model used to call herself that, I think. What was her name? Yeah, I think so.

Kelli (05:30.906)
Tyra Banks? Well, I don't know. I just Googled it and it did say that that's her alter ego. I, but I now that you say that, you're right. I remember something like that too. Yeah.

Lori (05:35.446)
of Beyonce.

Lori (05:40.652)
Sounds familiar, who knows? Who knows?

Wendy (05:44.174)
So Ashley jumps in trying to defend Rosie. And she's like, well, maybe she wouldn't be so afraid to open up if every time she starts talking, you guys are yelling at her. Maybe she'd feel more comfortable. Which, you know what? I give Ashley credit for at least trying to have Rosie's back, because Rosie did have a little talk with her, like maybe if you could say something. And Ashley is not the one to stir the pot or anything. She just was trying to have her friends back.

Lori (06:07.884)
Mm-mm.

Wendy (06:12.236)
But Liz is like, don't even, because she says, Ashley says, maybe if you nurture her. And Liz is like, I don't even know what nurture is. It skeeves me. was like, nurture skeeves you? That's so funny.

Lori (06:22.168)
I know, I was thinking there's like moms on this panel here, like why the extreme reaction to nurture? And I'll tell you what, Alicia planned a party, she's planning a party for like 12 year olds between the dolls, the tea, the slip and slide. I'm like, oh my God, like what? Like 12 years old.

Wendy (06:30.316)
Nurture.

Wendy (06:42.478)
The slip and slide! I don't even know!

Kelli (06:45.366)
I actually like a good slip inside, so I would have been into that, but I agree.

Lori (06:50.006)
I would been like Liz. I'm like, I'm not breaking a hip. I'm too old for that shit. It's not happening.

Wendy (06:54.839)
you

Lori (06:58.092)
And how about when Alicia was trying to talk about the epsom salt bath and she said, eps-teens.

Wendy (07:09.258)
Epstein's. Epstein's salts.

Wendy (07:16.608)
It's not even an act. Like that is why it is so funny because it is not an act. It is not. She's not, that is not an act.

Lori (07:20.737)
Mm-mm.

Kelli (07:22.434)
No, don't, if this weren't season one, I would be questioning. So on reality court, Ace always says, this is, Alicia is what Shannon Badour is trying to be. Like that schtick. Yeah, so I don't know if Shannon's necessarily trying a schtick, but maybe. But Alicia, this is genuinely who she is. But I would.

Wendy (07:36.605)
yeah, I heard him say that.

Lori (07:36.684)
Yes.

Wendy (07:51.33)
Yes.

Kelli (07:52.315)
100 % only be able to take her in small doses if I lived in Rhode Island. If I was part of this friend group, I'd be like, all right, if we're filming for three months, I'll hang with you, but the other nine, you know, I'll see you at holidays. Yeah.

Lori (08:05.152)
Yeah, I need a break. Yeah.

Wendy (08:10.286)
Alicia said she feels like the spirits of the house are starting to possess all of us. And then she's talking to Joellen and Kelsey and she said, I think Rosie is very sad. She's really struggling. So Joellen suggests that Kelsey goes and speaks to Rosie one on one. And Alicia's like, yeah, I think she's actually good one on one. And Kelsey's like, can you imagine if I tried to tell Joellen what to do with Rula? Well, listen, Kelsey.

Lori (08:37.687)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (08:40.424)
They're two totally different things. They're two totally different things.

Kelli (08:42.584)
Yeah, for sure. For sure.

Lori (08:45.068)
But my God, Ashley crying at that table. I was like, girl, you need to get it. You need to get a rain on that. Cause I was just like, and then she was, she wasn't even making sense. was like, she said something about just like freely express people. was like, she, like the sentence she said didn't even make sense. I was like,

Wendy (09:10.328)
She said, yeah, I just feel for Rosie. She wants to be able to free to express to people. I was like, what?

Lori (09:17.942)
Yeah. And I was like, Whoa, Whoa, Whoa. Okay. Like you're crying and you're talking bullshit. So I don't know what's going on. really don't. But yeah.

Kelli (09:26.926)
I understand her crying over her son's health issues, my God, I would too. Like especially if you're not with them and you but crying because someone's being not nice to your friend, that might be a little much.

Lori (09:29.664)
Absolutely, yes.

Wendy (09:30.818)
That makes sense, yes.

Lori (09:39.838)
No. Yeah, that's-

Wendy (09:41.998)
I mean, that's just like crying because you've never had a trauma in your life and you're afraid. It's like the same thing.

Kelli (09:47.0)
Yeah, exactly.

Lori (09:48.509)
Well, same lines, yes.

Kelli (09:50.862)
How about Alicia not being able to say the plural ghosts?

Lori (09:55.306)
Yes.

Wendy (09:59.477)
So funny. So funny.

Kelli (10:02.596)
But you know what is interesting? People comment all the time that we do not pronounce our T, like when we say Sutton, we say Sutton, we don't say Sutton.

Lori (10:13.964)
Yeah, someone else corrected me on some pronunciation too. And I was like, it's my Jersey problem. I don't know what to tell you.

Kelli (10:17.57)
Yeah, and it's the tease. they're calling us up, we're, it's just Jersey. That's just how we talk. So, you know, I'm not, I'm not making fun of Alicia. just thought of, well, kind of, but I, I don't think there's anything wrong with the fact that she can't say the plural of ghosts. I think it's funny, humorous.

Wendy (10:18.382)
It's our Jersey thing.

Lori (10:34.104)
So funny. And okay, I gotta ask a dumb question. What is RBF?

Kelli (10:40.568)
resting bitch face.

Wendy (10:41.038)
resting bitch face.

Lori (10:44.056)
gonna figure it out.

Wendy (10:47.896)
So yeah, Kelsey goes to talk to Rosie and Rosie said, listen, a lot of things were said that were hurtful, but I still want to open up. I still want to move forward. So basically, I agree to squash it. And Kelsey says to her, I have a tough exterior. You can't blame me for my RBF. That's just what I have, which is rusting bitch face. And if you have that, you have it. There's nothing you can do about it.

Lori (11:11.778)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (11:14.254)
Then we see the giant inflatable water slide and gosh, mean that was, what was that like three stories high? That was so high. That was so high.

Kelli (11:22.871)
It was high.

Lori (11:22.936)
There we go.

Kelli (11:26.914)
And like, it was high and then the landing was so short. Like I'm surprised they didn't go flying off of that into the grass.

Lori (11:32.268)
Yes, yes, yes. When you got down there. And then I saw them like preschoolers. I guess there's no stairs on the back end. You had to walk up the slide part. I was like, I don't know what's going on. I saw them walk. They were walking up the slide part. I was like, I don't understand what you're doing. There must've been.

Wendy (11:32.707)
Yeah.

Wendy (11:45.91)
No, there was stairs!

Kelli (11:47.172)
No, there were stairs.

Wendy (11:50.988)
Kelli (11:54.234)
I thought there were stairs, like inflatable stairs, but stairs.

Wendy (11:55.918)
There's definitely, yeah.

Lori (11:57.09)
but I did see them walking up the slide part, like crawling up the slide part. I'm like, I don't know what you're doing.

Kelli (12:00.131)
Interesting.

Wendy (12:03.34)
Well, Joellen and Alicia decided that they needed to get away for a little bit, get away from the drama and go take a walk. So I guess they have the driver pick them up. And it turns out that the driver used to live there at that castle, which is crazy, right? And he tells him the story about he was upstairs and the top floor. And supposedly that is where a nun hung herself at some point. I was like,

Kelli (12:03.546)
interest.

Lori (12:29.784)
okay. This always makes for good juju.

Wendy (12:33.218)
Yeah.

But that's when Alicia said she's not afraid of ghosts, she's just afraid of like mice and rats and stuff and bugs. She doesn't like bugs.

Wendy (12:48.898)
So when Alicia and Joellen are going for a walk, Alicia's telling her that she had no idea about what happened with her mom. And we really find out more about really what happened. Because we had talked about this, like we don't know what kind of place it was and what happened. My goodness, when she opened up to Alicia, who knew her at the time, I was.

Kelli (13:11.918)
Yeah, like Alicia was like, just always do your mother as like a bubbly. Listen, even if the mother wasn't like a bubbly jovial person, Alicia's, you know, she's got rainbows and unicorns in her head. she's gonna see the good part. She's not gonna see, you know.

Wendy (13:22.392)
She's right. sees everything right. Rose colored glasses. Exactly. Exactly.

Lori (13:23.832)
coming out,

Lori (13:30.182)
Right.

Wendy (13:31.222)
Right, she says 99 % of the people in the facility that she was sent to were court ordered to be there. She said that, you know, the first place she sent her to was like a drug rehab. And she was there for a week before, she'd never drank alcohol, she had never done drugs. She was there for a week and they were like, you don't need to be here. So they sent her home and her mom sent her away because she thought,

that she was gonna be promiscuous because she had big boobs and boys liked her.

Lori (14:05.931)
It's crazy.

Kelli (14:06.708)
I'm sure there's more to it than that. I'm sure there's more to it than that. But we all three know that the mental health facility, the facilities that are available in this country are not catered to just kids who are acting out.

Wendy (14:07.374)
Yes.

Lori (14:09.019)
absolutely, absolutely. Yes, there must be. Yes.

Lori (14:30.412)
you

Kelli (14:33.114)
you know, who might not have a substance abuse issue, they're not lighting houses on fire, like there's a need for places for kids to go who just need some direction, you know?

Lori (14:33.28)
or even, or,

Lori (14:44.706)
just a little help, not intense, not intense, but.

Kelli (14:47.93)
Yeah, more so now than ever, but it sounds like that's all she needed. Like she was rebellious for a reason for sure, but I'm sure it's not just because she had big boo. I, know, I don't know. I think there's more to it than that, but that's okay. She's entitled to feel her own way, Joellen, obviously. And it doesn't sound like it was a very good situation. And the third place was even worse.

Wendy (14:48.241)
absolutely, absolutely.

Lori (14:55.648)
Right.

Lori (15:02.923)
there's definitely more to it.

Lori (15:07.789)
Well...

I think the clincher is she sent the other sister too.

Kelli (15:16.961)
Yeah!

Lori (15:18.294)
So that there's some really messed up there. So yeah.

Kelli (15:24.309)
Yeah!

Wendy (15:26.158)
Do you really think that both, you really think there was something going on with both of the girls or do you think the mom?

Lori (15:32.958)
I think there's the mom is really messed up. think that the girls were probably just being obnoxious teenage girls who do teenage girl shit.

Kelli (15:35.46)
Yeah.

Wendy (15:37.29)
I agree. yeah, okay, you know, I agree.

Kelli (15:42.531)
And listen, maybe they were hooking up with boys. I don't think it was just that Joellen had big boobs and was getting attention from boys. I'm sure her mother caught her in some scenarios and I'm not judging. I'm just saying there had to be something more. But yeah, the fact that she sent the sister too, there was something definitely with the mother where she just, I don't know, didn't know how to deal with it. I don't know, but yeah.

Lori (15:54.452)
right or something. Right.

Lori (16:08.844)
Something, yeah. Something was, something was messed

Wendy (16:10.946)
Yeah, because she said the first time was in seventh grade. Like, that is so young. And in ninth grade is when she was away for a year. And the only reason she came back. That's crazy. The only reason she came back is because the state wanted to take full custody of her.

Kelli (16:16.865)
even great.

Lori (16:20.792)
And that's a long time.

Lori (16:28.364)
Yeah, because the insurance, mother's insurance ran out.

Kelli (16:31.332)
Yep. And her mom didn't want to lose custody. she didn't, you know.

Wendy (16:32.64)
I don't- I-

Wendy (16:37.142)
I don't know. Listen.

Lori (16:37.26)
Yeah, that's crazy,

Kelli (16:40.942)
What's interesting is she doesn't talk about her father at all in any of this. Was her father not around? And is that why her mother was like, I can't handle you two. Like was she a single mom trying to do everything herself? I'm not defending either side. I'm just saying she doesn't talk about her father in any of this. And she did when her grandfather passed away, they both, she and her sister both said he was like a second dad. So maybe her dad.

Lori (16:46.018)
Mm-mm.

Lori (16:52.525)
Right.

Lori (16:58.444)
that it's piece missing.

Wendy (17:07.544)
But she does, she said that's when she got close to her sister is when her father, because they weren't close growing up, but when her father passed, that's when her and her sister became close because growing up they were not.

Lori (17:20.472)
Right, but that doesn't mean that he was around. But doesn't mean he was around. Doesn't mean he was around, yeah.

Kelli (17:20.964)
So at some point in adulthood, their father passed.

Wendy (17:23.968)
I don't know. No, no, I know. That's what I'm saying. I don't know. We don't know the dynamic. That's the only thing we know about her father is that that's the only thing she's told us so far.

Lori (17:32.684)
Marty passed then.

Wendy (17:38.21)
Wendy (17:43.086)
So when Joellen goes on to say that when Alicia was talking about what had happened with her father leaving them, like it really hit home for her too, because again, she knew her also, but had no idea. And that's the thing, like we don't always know what goes on behind closed doors, right? We have no idea. Unless people are sharing it, you can think everything's good, but may not be.

Kelli (17:58.191)
Nope. Nope.

Wendy (18:07.211)
next we see Rula and Brian and the kids. Totally not.

Lori (18:11.512)
Every scene that is at home is very much portraying Brian as this wonderful husband. Every scene that she has at home, last time she was laying on the lounge chair and he was doing some work. This time she's laying in the bed and he's bringing her some tea. But first of all,

She's so sick, but you're kissing her on the lips. What are you doing?

Kelli (18:44.612)
Wait a minute. She's so sick. Her whole body's in pain. She had to go to the emergency room. She had to be taken by rescue. However, hair on fire and full beat makeup. Full beat. I mean, Rula. If I'm so sick I can't get out of bed and I'm going to the ER by rescue, I can assure you.

Lori (19:14.594)
yeah, I'm not looking like you.

Kelli (19:14.823)
I would look like a homeless person.

Lori (19:17.944)
Yeah, absolutely. She is very, very, very, she was very dramatic. She was very dramatic. The whole thing in her, no, no, when her confessional, I was like, Oh girl.

Kelli (19:20.354)
No offense to homeless people anywhere, but.

Kelli (19:26.188)
ridiculous.

Wendy (19:26.456)
The sad thing is she's not a good actress. She's not a good actress. She really is not.

Kelli (19:34.317)
And why are you, like what Laurie said, why are you trying to portray this guy who is humiliating you? Nevermind the show. Everybody in your town already knew what he was doing. Why are you defend, like, I just, don't understand. It's almost like a Kyle and Mo thing. Like, why are you protecting his image?

Lori (19:40.364)
Right.

Kelli (20:01.902)
Well, maybe for their jobs, maybe for their jobs.

Lori (20:02.071)
right?

Lori (20:06.434)
But how about this?

Kelli (20:06.828)
and that would financially affect her, let's face it. I mean, she's done very well on her own, but I'm just saying, if she does blow up his spot.

Lori (20:16.792)
I wonder if it's a Rhode Island thing. I never heard somebody say, was taken to the hospital by rescue. To me, a rescue is you're in the forest, it's a forest fire, someone's rescuing you. You're out in a boat in the hurricane, someone rescue you. To me, take an ambulance, the ambulance had to come. I never heard of this by rescue. I was like, what?

Wendy (20:43.182)
You

Kelli (20:45.038)
No. And why couldn't your husband take you?

Lori (20:47.584)
Yeah, by rescue. The drama was way too much.

Wendy (20:49.838)
She was so sick. She probably couldn't walk down the stairs.

Wendy (20:56.686)
So then back at the mansion, the ladies took Boris and Robert into putting on their bathing suits so that they can do the water slide with them.

Lori (21:06.146)
and I wanted to point out too, at the very end of the scene with Brian and Ruella, the scene is just about to cut. He's sitting on the bed with her and he goes, it's like, stop it.

Wendy (21:19.862)
I noticed that.

Kelli (21:20.408)
Yes. Yep.

Wendy (21:24.172)
I noticed that, I was like, what is that about?

Kelli (21:25.214)
no, are you coming down with it too? Are you getting, am I so sick that I just got you sick too? You should go do your hair and put some makeup on.

Lori (21:27.909)
it was-

it was just so phony baloney. Yeah, slap some aftershave on just in case. No, I wanted to, I never got a chance.

Wendy (21:39.298)
Did either of you watch the after show?

Kelli (21:41.498)
I didn't watch that. I did watch Watch What Happens Live with Joellen and Kelly from Atlanta. I didn't watch the after show.

Wendy (21:47.95)
So on the after show, she's like, ran, I think it was on the after show, because I watched it. They ran so many tests. They did all these things. I was in and out of the hospital for, I don't know, 40 days or some ridiculous amount of time. And they didn't come up with anything. I'm like, really? Nothing, huh? They came up with nothing. They came up with nothing. They didn't come up with anything.

Lori (22:04.088)
You know what they came up with? They came up with you're full of shit. Cause she's yeah, that's they came up with. That's, that's the disease. But supposedly she's not, she wasn't filming. She was refusing to film. You didn't see that. Oh, you didn't get to see that. Yeah. She's been refusing to film.

Kelli (22:09.604)
They came up with you're cheating husband. That's what it came up with.

Kelli (22:20.186)
Really?

Wendy (22:27.053)
When?

Kelli (22:27.278)
then when this was going on.

Lori (22:29.416)
Yeah, like what we're watching right now. was refusing to film. And not only that, I saw a thing. Remember we talked about the husband took the mistress to court with the NDA?

Kelli (22:31.972)
she was refusing to film because they kept talking about her husband's affair.

Wendy (22:32.546)
So that's why she didn't show up.

Wendy (22:50.651)
yeah, she's counter-sewing.

Lori (22:53.076)
Yeah, it's because it's some kind of thing where supposedly, well what I heard, supposedly was that she is co-owner in some kind of business with him. And I do remember seeing a social media post that he, yeah, he's, but so she must be in on it with him. And the NDA had something to do with that, not her.

Kelli (22:53.508)
For what?

Wendy (22:56.674)
Defamation.

Kelli (23:08.973)
I remember that.

Wendy (23:10.786)
The med spa. He's a med spa.

Lori (23:21.9)
being a mistress. So she broke some kind of NDA in regards to that business that they have together.

Kelli (23:28.474)
So she's countersuing him for defamation?

Wendy (23:32.482)
That's what I heard. She was countersuing him for being talked about on the show and being portrayed.

Kelli (23:37.925)
Well, that wasn't his. You're suing the wrong person, honey. The last thing Brian wanted was for you to be brought up on the show. Honestly, you want to sue somebody. Well, you can't sue somebody who didn't use your name. Nobody knows her name as far as the show goes. I'm sure people know now, but that's a bullshit countersuit. That's not going anywhere. I don't know if his is going anywhere either, but hers isn't.

Lori (23:53.974)
Right, nobody's putting her name out there. Cockroach.

Wendy (23:54.582)
Nobody has, nobody has.

Kelli (24:05.998)
because she'd have to go after Joellen. Joellen's the one who brought it up. And apparently they're friends and Joellen said on Watch What Happens Live, she's been in contact with her and has spoken to her. She's known her for 10 years. She's not gonna get anything from Brian, because that was the last thing he wanted was her being brought up.

Wendy (24:10.879)
and

Lori (24:25.238)
Yeah, who knows.

Wendy (24:27.512)
Yeah.

Lori (24:28.13)
tangled web.

Kelli (24:29.721)
He's peeped.

Wendy (24:31.758)
So Liz has planned the sunset cruise for the evening, which is a much more of an adult activity.

Lori (24:39.788)
Yes, yes, yes.

Wendy (24:43.942)
Then we see they're on their way there and we find out that Ashley's son is not feeling well on the car ride over to the boat. she's talking to her mom and her mom said, you know, I was all ready to take him to the hospital, but you know, he should be fine. Fast forward, they get on the boat and she gets the call. My dad is there who happens to be a doctor and they're going to the hospital. So she's got to get back off the boat.

Lori (25:08.14)
Girl had on some like Newark, New Jersey style hoops.

Wendy (25:15.502)
hahahahah

Lori (25:16.428)
They were, I was like, whoa, looking to throw down or something. Those were some big hoops.

Kelli (25:20.312)
Yeah.

Yeah, yeah. Here, hold my hoops. Yep.

Lori (25:28.269)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (25:28.952)
There you go, there you go. But when they get to the boat, Joellen, as soon as she sees the captain, she asks him if he's single, because she's always looking for her sister, Jen, which I thought, well, that's nice, right? So she sends a picture to Jen, because she takes his picture, because he's single.

Liz had it all set up so they have this wonderful charcuterie all set up for them and they have cocktails and this is my kind of activity. I would be all over this.

Kelli (25:58.767)
Yeah.

Lori (25:59.974)
yes, yes, take me away. On the boat with the charcuterie. Yes, I'm for it.

Kelli (26:02.904)
Yeah. Yup.

Wendy (26:08.263)
And Kelsey says when they're on the boat to Joellen, I think you had sex on a boat with my ex and another girl. And Joellen in her confessionals said, no, that was on land. I was a little slutty in my 20s.

Lori (26:21.814)
I love how she's just out there with us, great.

Wendy (26:24.492)
Yeah, yeah.

Kelli (26:24.974)
I mean, at this point, whatever, you're happily married. It's not like your husband doesn't know your past. You grew up with him. He knows you, you know, and who cares if he does or not?

Wendy (26:31.884)
Right, exactly. Right.

Lori (26:32.268)
Right. Right.

Wendy (26:37.154)
Then Liz says that she needs a cigarette, so she's got to go find some place to hide on the boat.

Kelli (26:42.51)
I knew she smoked. I knew it. I just knew it. I just felt it. Yeah. And I love her. And that's why.

Lori (26:45.228)
Ha ha!

Wendy (26:45.922)
What gave it away? The voice? The voice? I mean, I think that...

Kelli (26:54.628)
I'm like, I knew it, my friend.

Wendy (26:56.642)
Why can't they let her smoke on, I mean, why can't they let her smoke on camera?

Kelli (26:59.182)
They won't, if you remember, a lot of housewives smoke. They're just now starting to show Dorit, but New York, Carroll smoked, Dorinda smoked, Luann smoked, they all smoked on New York almost. But a lot of them smoke and they don't show it. They won't show it.

Wendy (27:04.77)
I know they do.

Wendy (27:16.366)
Well, I think, I mean, because it used to be that they would show it on like in movies and on TV shows. So when they stopped showing it on movies and TV shows, they stopped, I guess, in real life. the fact of the matter is if they're showing it in real life now, then show it. Like, you know what I'm saying?

Lori (27:18.198)
So funny.

Kelli (27:34.458)
And the thing is, is you're showing them drinking alcohol. You're showing them smoking weed. We see them smoke weed on these reality shows all the time now that it's legal. Cigarettes are legal. Yeah, I mean, it's somebody's choice if they want to smoke or not.

Lori (27:37.74)
Right. Right.

Wendy (27:37.932)
Right.

Wendy (27:43.052)
Right. Right.

Lori (27:44.684)
All so let them have a cigarette. Yeah, makes no sense.

Lori (27:51.031)
Yeah, makes no sense.

Kelli (27:52.258)
Of course it's unhealthy, it's not good for you, it kills you. We know that and we still do it.

Wendy (28:03.394)
So after that, then they head back to the house and the butlers are waiting for them again with champagne. I like that. I like that every time they arrive, there's champagne waiting. I'm also here for that.

Lori (28:11.928)
I'm liking it. Wouldn't that be nice? Yeah. Some more dervs.

Kelli (28:13.882)
Wouldn't that be nice? You just walk in your house and somebody's standing there with champagne.

Wendy (28:15.97)
Yes.

Yeah.

Wendy (28:23.694)
So then we see Joelle and it... Yep, yep, absolutely. This is all we need, right? We're very simple. We really don't take much. We need some crackers. And the crackers were too far for Alicia. They were on the other side of the table, so they had to move them for her.

Kelli (28:24.174)
Yeah, another shark utery.

Lori (28:26.305)
Yeah.

Kelli (28:30.176)
I know we're very simple people, very simple people.

Lori (28:30.177)
man.

Some crackers, just some crackers. That's some champagne.

Kelli (28:37.135)
Yeah.

Lori (28:41.367)
Yes.

Kelli (28:43.066)
She's like, you know, what's really upsetting me right now that the crackers are on the other side.

Wendy (28:45.368)
So they get back.

Lori (28:48.684)
The crack is the too far away.

Kelli (28:52.718)
Are you gonna cry like Ashley because of the crackers?

Lori (28:54.976)
Wendy (28:59.768)
So they get back and Joellen is outside and Liz goes up to her and you could see that she's upset and Liz is like, what is going on? She's like, do you remember at the polo match Rula said to me, get me proof? And she goes, well, I got proof. So then Joellen shows Liz the proof and Liz is like, this is indisputable. I cannot believe this.

This is a little, I don't know, what are your thoughts on this proof that we haven't seen, but we've got, you know, described, you know, in detail.

Lori (29:36.171)
It's a little z-

Kelli (29:36.214)
It depends on what's on the video and they're all like, my God, like, are they having sex on the video? Like, what are you looking at that you're so flabbergasted over?

Wendy (29:44.226)
Well, Rosie breaks it down pretty intense. She's like, you know, the video starts, you're looking through this glass door and we see Brian and this blonde woman and he's hugging her. This was two days before the polo match. Brian is consoling and caressing with his hand on her ass and kissing her. And then there's this long hug and they're embracing each other. It's like a five minute hug. Like that's a...

pretty detailed description of what is on the video, don't you think? I mean, it's not like they're having sex, but they're obviously, you know, being intimate.

Lori (30:19.042)
So this is my thing. Who's videotaping this?

Wendy (30:24.472)
Well, according to Joellen, her friend, who she knows as, and I guess Joellen went to esthetician school also. That's how she got into this field that she's in, selling this equipment and training them how to use it. So her...

Lori (30:41.41)
Which is what the mistress does.

Wendy (30:44.428)
which is what the mistress does, is friends with the mistress. And she reached out to that friend and said, do you have any proof? Well, the friend must live across the street or must be right there because...

Kelli (30:44.526)
Okay. Okay.

Lori (30:57.836)
That's what I'm saying. Where is she? Like, you're gonna go, yeah, you're like, she's gotta be near. It's not like you're gonna.

Wendy (31:01.706)
She's across, I think she's gotta be across. That's how it sounded. That's how it sounded to me.

Kelli (31:06.34)
So it's like a ring camera footage or something like that, a certain, like a.

Lori (31:09.816)
It's not gonna be like the three is on a date and you're just taking some footage because you're there.

Wendy (31:13.982)
No, it's at the mistress's house. It's definitely at the mistress's house. And it sounds to me, it's either ring footage that the friend got directly from the mistress, or the friend lives across the street from the mistress.

Kelli (31:19.127)
okay.

Kelli (31:27.45)
you

Lori (31:30.622)
Yeah, because I was just like, how are you getting this footage?

Wendy (31:34.614)
Right. Those are the only two things I can think of.

Lori (31:37.4)
Yeah. Cause then the other one, wasn't there one where they showed this episode where they showed like a timestamp, but it looked like from the dashboard of a car.

Wendy (31:52.942)
that was with the picture of her in the seat?

Kelli (31:53.486)
Yeah, that's... right.

Lori (31:55.51)
Right, so who took that video? The mistress did, and then the mistress just gives it to anybody who asks for it. don't.

Kelli (31:58.043)
She did. The mistress did.

Wendy (31:58.464)
She took it. The mistress took that one.

Kelli (32:03.962)
Well, I think she posted it on her social media.

Wendy (32:03.97)
Well

Yeah.

Kelli (32:08.408)
And that's when they were at the polo match that she saw at Joelle.

Lori (32:11.232)
Right, right, right, right, right,

Wendy (32:12.662)
Right. they were questioned because they knew, I mean, it was red leather interior. That's not a common thing. Not everyone has red leather interior.

Kelli (32:18.882)
Now, right.

Wendy (32:24.088)
So after Alicia shows Liz, they bring it down to the ladies and they show all the ladies and.

Lori (32:30.858)
I love how Liz said, unleash the hounds.

Kelli (32:34.392)
Yeah

Wendy (32:35.394)
Hehehehehe

Lori (32:38.112)
And Alicia was... Yeah. But Alicia was so confused. She was so confused by that statement. I could just picture her like being like, where are the doors?

Kelli (32:38.211)
I liked when they were all like, not it, not it, not it. We say that in my house.

Kelli (32:49.176)
Yeah. What do you mean? Release the what? The hound? That? Yes.

Lori (32:53.068)
Yeah, yeah.

Wendy (32:56.472)
So after they show all the ladies, Joellen's like, listen, I mean, we have to give her this information, but I can't be the bad guy. I can't bring it to her. And Lisa's like, I can't. I already talked to her. So they're like, Alicia, you have to do it. Alicia's like, I can't do it. And everyone's like, not it, not it.

but we do see any.

Kelli (33:15.236)
I really don't think Alicia should be the one to do it.

Wendy (33:18.2)
Well, she's the one who does it, because we see it on the upcoming thing. Her and her husband go over there and sit down with Brian and Rula. Like, I...

Lori (33:25.346)
And then have dinner. That was weird too. Like, let's just pretend like we're going over to have dinner and then just be like, boom. Weird.

Kelli (33:35.35)
After the appetizers, we'll start playing the video.

Lori (33:38.153)
Yeah, yeah.

Wendy (33:40.342)
I know it was weird.

Lori (33:42.072)
So Rosie had two good things I thought she said when she called Kelsey a high-end squatter. I thought that was good. And then...

Wendy (33:50.988)
Yes, that was good.

Wendy (34:00.984)
Do you think that Kelsey is jealous of Kelsey? Because that's what Liz seems to think and that's what Rosie's Rich seems to think, that Kelsey jealous.

Lori (34:12.408)
Well, it certainly sounds like projection because all of the things that she points out is all the things that she doesn't have and Rosie does have. know, common sense. I mean, what do care if she's lying about the square? What do you care? I mean...

Wendy (34:15.842)
Kelsey.

Kelli (34:29.006)
Well.

Kelli (34:32.57)
But here's the thing, like, so they agree to move on, right? And squash it. And then after that, in her confessional, Rosie's like, you know, with the guys taking their shirts off and she's like, maybe Kelsey can add Boris to the boyfriend list. He could be number three. And then she's like, he doesn't have any money. Like,

Wendy (34:32.812)
Right. What does it matter?

Wendy (34:38.541)
Yes.

Lori (34:56.151)
Yeah, yeah.

Wendy (34:56.802)
Yeah.

Kelli (34:57.4)
So, you know, I don't think Rosie's genuine in what she's saying either. I don't think she really wants to move forward. Because she's doing exactly what they're accusing her of.

talking smack and then not facing it.

Lori (35:14.488)
And that not face, yeah. I mean, the only thing I can say is that if, you know, like the whole thing with the square footage of the house, like who gives a shit and who cares? But I can see where if she did get fired from her job and is trying to say she quit, that's not being truthful. Like I can see where.

Wendy (35:15.712)
Right, right.

Kelli (35:25.582)
hairs.

Kelli (35:37.636)
Well, listen, we say it all the time. If you're going on a reality TV show, don't lie because...

Lori (35:42.58)
Yeah, don't write. Don't have any skeletons because they're going to pop out like Halloween.

Kelli (35:47.346)
And your fellow castmates are gonna literally act like it's their job to call you out. Yeah, it is their job, right.

Lori (35:53.976)
Because it is their job. Because it is their job. is their job, yep.

Wendy (35:58.242)
Yeah, it is their job.

So on Watch What Happens Live, said, I watched it also, Joellen was on, and I love that the bartender was Gary and Jen behind the bar. And Andy asked, did they date in high school? They did not date in high school, Jen and Gary. And they just act like best friends. Andy said,

Kelli (36:10.98)
Yeah. Yeah.

Wendy (36:31.32)
How did Joellen feel about being on the show? she's like, or Jen, she's like, she thought this was gonna be like everyone was gonna love her. And she's like, I feel bad because now everyone hates her. Yeah.

Lori (36:41.954)
the sister? well, yeah.

Kelli (36:43.15)
the sister. But I don't think anybody hates her, I mean...

Wendy (36:46.25)
I don't think they do either. I don't think they do either.

Kelli (36:49.612)
It's just a weird dynamic.

Lori (36:50.988)
But they just might not get the weird, familiar humor, you know?

Kelli (36:55.704)
Yeah, like my sisters love Eric, but they're not flirting with him like that. They don't want his sperm, you know.

Lori (36:59.628)
Right now. Right. You don't want to clone him.

Wendy (37:03.338)
Yeah. And then, yes, exactly. Exactly.

Kelli (37:06.912)
Now, one is enough.

Kelli (37:13.22)
think we can all agree.

Wendy (37:13.304)
So Andy said to Joellen, are the, this is like a record. You are a first season Housewife, seven episodes in, and we had enough to play. Do you regret it? They had 10 do you regret it? Like that is great, right? Like that tells you she is a good Housewife. That is Housewife gold.

Lori (37:27.917)
great.

Kelli (37:30.618)
Yeah, that is good. Yeah, that's good.

Kelli (37:37.934)
Yep. Yep.

Wendy (37:40.45)
So the only thing she regretted was saying Rosie was evil and even children wouldn't like her. She regretted that. And she regretted sharing in her confessional that Brian and her had a threesome once.

Kelli (37:54.542)
Mm-hmm. Gary. Gary in her, Yeah.

Wendy (37:56.686)
Gary, yes. Why did I write Brian? Yes, Gary. Oh yes, exactly. Oh my gosh, could you imagine? Gary did not regret that though, by the way. He did not regret her telling everyone. And she does also regret admitting not knowing what the 4th of July was, which is good, I'm glad. But nothing else she regrets doing, nothing else, which you know what, good for her.

Kelli (38:00.315)
Brian's got enough going on. He doesn't need to be a cutie.

Lori (38:00.352)
Yeah, well, yeah, Brian's.

Kelli (38:08.698)
No, for sure.

Lori (38:20.024)
Yeah, remember that? Yeah.

Good for her. Good for her. Good, good, good.

Wendy (38:26.464)
Yeah. Yeah.

So that was it for Rhode Island. I think another great episode, and I'm looking forward to see more tea.

Lori (38:38.656)
Yeah, absolutely.

Kelli (38:40.12)
Yeah, mean Andy said it, not one episode goes by and you're not like, wow, this is great. And he's been right so far, he's been right. I wonder how many episodes there are for season one.

Wendy (38:46.296)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (38:52.832)
I don't know. That's a good question.

Lori (38:53.952)
I saw an interview with Rosie and she said if you thought the first half was good, just wait for the second half. So we'll have to see what it

Kelli (38:54.489)
Yeah.

Kelli (39:03.535)
Really?

Wendy (39:08.322)
Well, I mean, we saw the midseason trailer where we're going to find out that, know, Rula calls the police on Brian and he gets arrested. And next week we're going to see, you know, Alicia tell them about the video. I mean, hopefully she has it. I hope she has the video to show them.

Lori (39:18.198)
Right. the tracker, yeah.

Lori (39:26.072)
and we'll...

Kelli (39:33.454)
Yeah, that's gonna be good.

Wendy (39:35.532)
What is that? What is that all about?

Lori (39:37.08)
I'm thinking it means like you like to body slam, like you like to... You like to shtup. You like to slam. That's what I'm thinking. I had never heard... Yeah, I had never heard that expression, but to me, that's what it sounds like. That's what slam pig sounds like to me. So to all our Rhode Island listeners, if there are any, is this a Rhode Island thing and is that what it means?

Wendy (39:46.51)
You think that's it?

Wendy (39:56.193)
Okay.

Wendy (40:04.14)
Yes, please help us out with this one.

Lori (40:06.656)
Yes, we'd like to.

Kelli (40:07.756)
I'm getting 14 episodes, but I don't know if that's correct.

Wendy (40:14.222)
Obviously then we're halfway there because this was episode number seven if that's correct.

Kelli (40:18.82)
Yeah, I'm seeing 14, and then obviously a reunion, which that's normal. Jersey, we don't get much more of that from Jersey.

Wendy (40:27.596)
Yeah, I mean.

Wendy (40:31.864)
No, we don't.

Kelli (40:33.826)
In the beginning we did, but not anymore, so.

Wendy (40:34.542)
out.

Kelli (40:39.339)
say.

Wendy (40:39.446)
Okay, so anything else?

Kelli (40:42.778)
Nope, nope.

Lori (40:43.606)
Nope, I think that's it.

Wendy (40:45.568)
Until next time, thank you for watching and listening. Please subscribe and give us five star reviews. Bye.

Kelli (40:51.908)
Bye.

Lori (40:52.13)
Bye.