RHORI S1 E8: Explosive Fights, Emotional Confessions & Dinner Disaster 🍷

RHORI S1 E8: Explosive Fights, Emotional Confessions & Dinner Disaster 🍷

Podcast Summary:
On this emotional and explosive episode of RHORI, the cast faces personal struggles, family trauma, relationship tensions, and one shocking blowout fight. Alicia battles crippling anxiety while trying to tell Rulla about the infamous video from the Newport trip, and Billy opens up about how her anxiety affects their daily lives. Kelsey adjusts to life in a much smaller apartment while relying financially on her ex and trying to build independence. Ashley leans on her parents while caring for her son’s asthma and juggling influencer life.

The emotional centerpiece of the episode comes when Jo-Ellen confronts her mother about her painful childhood, being sent away as a teen, and never feeling loved growing up. The raw conversation uncovers generational trauma, depression, and attempts at healing as her mother apologizes and promises to become a better mother and grandmother.

Meanwhile, Liz explores cannabis menopause gummies with Dolores, while Rulla hosts a tense dinner where Alicia struggles with whether to reveal the truth about the video. The episode ends in total chaos when Rosie and Kelsey’s hair appointment turns into an all-out screaming match involving insults, pushing, accusations, and producers stepping in. Later on WWHL, Rosie doubles down on calling Kelsey a “slam pig” while Andy grills the cast about the shocking feud. 

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Transcript

Wendy (00:01.39)
Welcome to We Wine Whenever, I'm Wendy.

Kelli (00:04.948)
I'm Kelly.

Lori (00:06.029)
And I'm Lauren.

Wendy (00:08.334)
And we are talking about Real Housewives of Rhode Island, season one, episode eight. But before we do that, I just want to do our call to action. If everyone could please head over to YouTube and hit subscribe if you have not done that already. And follow us on Instagram, Facebook, TikTok, all the socials, and give us five star reviews wherever you listen to your podcast. And thank you to all who have done it already.

Lori (00:33.079)
Yeah, and I want to do a quick little shout out because I want to let you know, Wendy, you and I got some really good beauty advice. So I just wanted to give the shout out to the person. Cheryl. Okay. So Cheryl commented, you know, I hate to say it and it's always bad when people start out like that. No, but you too, senior women need to take the extension out. The extensions out.

Kelli (00:33.196)
Thank you.

Kelli (00:44.266)
my god.

Kelli (00:52.428)
Not a great way to start out

Lori (01:01.265)
Shorten up the hairdo because you look like you're trying to be one of the housewives and I don't think you can afford the fillers or the Botox So I think you ought to start by looking like someone your age in this law in this long over emphasized hair You are way too old for so I texted her back and I say I messaged her back and I said well Cheryl Thank you so much for the beauty advice

We looked at your profile and since you look so stunning, we're definitely going to take it into consideration.

Kelli (01:34.75)
I'm gonna need to see a picture of Cheryl.

Lori (01:35.277)
So thank you, Cheryl. Thank you.

Wendy (01:40.034)
I appreciate it, Cheryl. Thank you. Thank you. I actually think that was a compliment, actually.

Lori (01:43.383)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Kelli (01:44.714)
Meanwhile, nobody has extensions. And by the way, why do you assume that was for you and Wendy? That could have been towards me. I mean, I don't have long voluptuous hair. Well, my hair is shorter.

Lori (01:53.809)
Yeah, maybe. Yeah, but Kelly's hair is still long.

Wendy (01:54.04)
Well, your hair's shorter.

I I mean, your hair is shorter, but listen, I actually think it was a compliment because

Lori (02:02.329)
But Cheryl also, just so you know, they're not extensions. Nobody has extensions.

Kelli (02:07.838)
Nobody has extensions.

Wendy (02:07.858)
No, neither mine. This is all mine, baby. This is all mine. And I've never put a needle in my face. No Botox, no filler, baby. And no filter. I mean, I can't, but still.

Kelli (02:13.61)
And quite honestly, Cheryl, yeah, right. None of us are ever putting needles in our faces. We've already discussed that. But, and how do you know who can afford what?

Lori (02:15.777)
Yeah. Just no.

Lori (02:23.351)
Yeah, I just

I just think it's, yeah, I just think it's amazing that people just take their time out to say something negative. Like if I don't have anything nice to say, just, I don't say anything. I just think it's just really wild and bizarre behavior. It's just, I don't get it.

Kelli (02:27.148)
afford Botox if you wanted it.

Wendy (02:30.072)
Probably.

Wendy (02:44.088)
Listen, I just heard she thought we look like housewives and guess what? We are housewives, so I'll take it.

Lori (02:48.873)
there you go. Okay, Wendy, I like your, like, your selective hearing there. It's great.

Kelli (02:49.996)
It's like It's like that meme where it's like somebody says you are pretty crazy and all you hear is you are pretty Wendy picked what she wanted to hear and she's sticking with it

Lori (03:00.761)
It's pretty. Yeah, I like it. It's good. But it's a hair.

Wendy (03:01.134)
Is pretty? Yes, exactly. Yup. Yup. That's it.

Lori (03:08.941)
I don't think I'm going to go with that. think I like that one. Do you like it? Okay. So there's a quick. Yeah. Thank you. Yes. Clearly you're watching. Okay.

Kelli (03:12.46)
Well, Cheryl, thanks for listening. Thank you. And watching, clearly you're watching because you know what we look like.

Wendy (03:15.448)
Yeah.

Wendy (03:20.544)
It's funny because the name of this episode is splitting hairs. Now that we've just talked about our hair.

Lori (03:25.593)
There you go. So what about the hair? Yeah, so what about the hair? It's too funny.

Kelli (03:30.813)
Wendy (03:32.59)
So we start out at Rula's house and then we see Joellen's house and then we see Liz's house. Listen, I do like when we start out this way. I like to see a little bit of the background scenery. I like to see interactions with the family, even if it's just for a brief second. Asterical when Alicia is going out to get into her car and she finds a four leaf clover and Billy's got to come and he's got to see it, but it's really just a weed in the grass. It's just a weed, but Alicia is...

Kelli (03:58.858)
I like how he said it's poison ivy, don't go near it. You don't have one thing of poison ivy in your yard. Like, if there's poison ivy, that shit is everywhere. It's up the fence.

Lori (04:01.624)
Yeah.

Wendy (04:02.252)
Yeah.

Lori (04:04.533)
Right.

Everywhere, Right.

Wendy (04:10.956)
Yeah, so they're taking her car out because she only has 2,000 miles on it and poor Billy is running his business empire with all these restaurants and he's got to stop every day and drive their daughter back and forth to dance five days a week because Alicia's afraid to drive over the bridge. So he wants... It wasn't even... I don't even think it was a... I wouldn't even call it a bridge.

Kelli (04:26.198)
Which it was not a very big bridge, right?

Lori (04:28.909)
I don't think.

Kelli (04:32.266)
I'm like, did I just blink and miss her go over the bridge?

Lori (04:34.777)
Where's the bridge?

Kelli (04:37.812)
I didn't see a big bridge.

Wendy (04:37.878)
I, yeah. But I loved how she needed to do a quick quacka before she got started, because she was already nervous. Yeah. And the rose water spray and the peppermint and the gum, they all help with her anxiety.

Kelli (04:43.948)
She needed the cracker.

Lori (04:46.295)
Yes, you need the crack.

Lori (04:52.333)
Yes. And the crackers. And the crackers. But now, later on this episode, we're going to talk about menopause. And I know I have read somewhere that some people can develop this a little later in life. And it can be a menopause thing where you have driving anxiety. So my friend has it and it's horrible.

Wendy (05:10.689)
Anxiety.

Kelli (05:14.068)
yeah. I've heard, don't have it. Thank God, not gonna would, but yeah.

Lori (05:21.337)
And it's something she didn't have when she was younger. She developed it in like her late 40s.

Wendy (05:21.772)
That's

Wendy (05:29.73)
Yeah, that is interesting. Yeah, no, Yeah, it certainly can. It certainly can. So Alicia's also telling Billy while they're driving about how she felt like Liz attacked her at the tea party because Liz was saying that she was never homeless as a kid. you know, Alicia feels the way she feels about it she doesn't think it was right that Liz was saying that it wasn't true.

Lori (05:29.837)
Just saying. Metapods mess you up.

Wendy (05:56.974)
And we talked about this, know, Liz has known her since she was a baby. And, you know, she just was kind of probably protecting the family, you know, and it wasn't her idea of homeless, even though Alicia felt that way.

Lori (06:09.835)
Right. Well on the after show.

Kelli (06:10.346)
Yeah, I mean if Liz's sister's best friends with Alicia's mother, you know, she was probably just, you know, cause look what's going on with Joellen and her mother. Like, Joellen's sister clearly knows how she feels and knew she was gonna bring it up on the show, but from Liz's perspective, if Alicia's family didn't know she was gonna bring this up and then just put it out there that they were homeless, Liz might be doing that to be like, yo, like, you know.

Lori (06:14.616)
Right.

Wendy (06:14.679)
Right.

Wendy (06:21.837)
Yeah.

Lori (06:38.285)
Right. Easy. But on the after show, they were talking about the whole situation and Joellen brought up a very good point. know, she said, Liz may not, it might be like semantics, like maybe you weren't homeless, but to a child, you know, that's how you're looking at it. You're not looking at it as from an adult perspective. You're looking at it as when you were a child. So that's a totally different thing.

Wendy (06:39.16)
Right.

Kelli (06:40.106)
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Lori (07:08.121)
between how an adult would look at something.

Kelli (07:08.362)
And she lost her home. She lost her home. Yeah.

Wendy (07:11.83)
Right. Right. Right.

then we, she gets over the bridge. She makes it over her bridge. Then we see at Rosie's house. Yeah. Whew. Her.

Lori (07:23.578)
After blowing like three stop signs, blew three stop signs and was totally over the line, the middle center line at some point.

Kelli (07:24.716)
It was rough. It was rough.

Kelli (07:33.692)
Somebody put that on social media like she should just not drive. She blew like three stop signs on the

Wendy (07:40.086)
Yeah, I know, I know. You know what she needs? She needs to get herself a Tesla. She needs to get a self-driving vehicle. That's what she needs. People like her, that's what they need, I think, right?

Lori (07:40.151)
Yeah. And she went over the center line.

Lori (07:47.267)
Yes, yes, yes. Yeah, yeah.

Wendy (07:54.114)
So then we see at Rosie's house, she's gonna take her dog for a walk. Her and Rich are going out. She has to of course wear her moon boots because why not? They actually really do look like fun, but again, I'm sure I would like, no, I'll break an ankle.

Lori (08:03.001)
Most why not?

Kelli (08:06.07)
We really need to get them. Yeah, got, you, but yeah, you, that's right. We had this conversation. Yeah, you two, I'm gonna have to do that with Tess. You two are a mess, yeah.

Lori (08:08.247)
No, no, no, I'll break a hip. I'll break a hip. Yes, you will. Yes, will. Yep. No. listen, poor Clemmie, that damn dog, poor Clemmie, 10,000 people watched him took a shit. Like poor thing. Poor thing. was like, I wrote down poor Clemmie. God, snake.

Wendy (08:12.694)
Yeah. Yeah. Yes.

I know.

Kelli (08:31.476)
No privacy for Clemmie.

Lori (08:33.024)
No.

Wendy (08:33.457)
No, no. And Rosie's telling Rich that, you know, Kelsey's moving into the new apartment and all about the thing about how Kelsey was questioning the size of her house and the square footage, which we'll see later.

Lori (08:48.959)
Now, can we please bring up the fact that it's been all over social media that supposedly Kelsey has not lived in that house for two years.

Kelli (08:59.574)
Yeah, she moved out two years ago, supposedly.

Lori (09:01.761)
And that the house supposedly also is the parents' house, not even his house. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Wendy (09:07.019)
Of course it is.

Kelli (09:07.424)
Well, I mean, obviously, right? And the niece is living there now, right? Didn't the niece put something on social media of her in the house? Like her living in the house or something? Yeah, so I took...

Wendy (09:10.402)
Yeah. Yeah.

Lori (09:18.233)
Oh, I don't know. I didn't see that. I didn't see that. I mean, it does make for a great storyline, but it's also a lie. Right.

Kelli (09:27.276)
But it's a lie. Like what are you coming on here and lying for? If you left two years ago, say years ago.

Wendy (09:33.09)
Well, the funny thing is...

The funny thing is, if it is in fact a lie, this is what Kelsey's so bent out of shape about Rosie about the square footage. She's saying it doesn't matter what it was, right? She's just saying because it was a lie. Right.

Kelli (09:44.588)
And who-

Right, she lied. Right.

Lori (09:49.399)
Right. And Rosie did explain on the after show that the reason why she said the 8,000 square feet is from a couple of years ago when they first did their plans and they were going to do three stories. And then when they went to go to do and that was 8,000 square feet. And then when you go to do the permits, they're like, no, we have a variance. You can't do this. You can't do that. So they started knocking off square footage due to

Kelli (09:53.802)
Mm-hmm.

Lori (10:17.695)
variances and construction things and now you're right now it's not 8 000 square feet but when they first had their plans done from the architect that's what it was and it was a number that she had put out there like long ago

Kelli (10:34.688)
Right. And did Kelsey think, say she did move out two years ago, did she think that that was never going to come up? Like, did she really think she was going to get away with it?

Lori (10:42.05)
Yeah, I don't know.

Wendy (10:46.616)
The thing is, where has she been? She's been in that apartment that we see her unpacking.

Lori (10:50.563)
Billy's. That apartment and then Billy's.

Wendy (10:55.916)
Because we just, I mean, we see her unpacking that apartment. Like her mom and sister come over and she's like unpacking boxes and you think that was all? Right, exactly.

Kelli (10:56.076)
See, I do think-

Lori (11:04.259)
I don't know.

Kelli (11:04.428)
I mean, she filmed at the rich guy's house, so they must've had some kind of agreement. She filmed there, but I don't think she was staying there.

Lori (11:09.284)
absolutely, yeah.

Lori (11:13.983)
Yeah, so it's just interesting, you know, it's a bunch of hooey anyway, so.

Wendy (11:18.978)
I mean, what Kelsey said, what the biggest shock, culture shock for her was actually just now she has to do everything for herself, like make her bed and do her laundry, like normal adults, actually even child things, children do those things, you know?

Lori (11:29.331)
Mm-hmm. Thanks.

Kelli (11:32.94)
Well, you should be used to it by now if you've been doing it for two years.

Lori (11:33.474)
Right.

Lori (11:37.879)
Right. But then she wouldn't have a storyline. So what are you going to do?

Wendy (11:42.701)
Yeah.

Kelli (11:42.828)
She's making Rosie her storyline, and that's not very smart, Kelsey. It's not very smart.

Lori (11:44.93)
Yeah, absolutely.

Wendy (11:45.462)
Whoa, that is a fact. That is a fact. And then Bill comes in when she's unpacking and they're talking about how Kelsey needs to get a new car now. And they're going to probably trade that one in or do something. And Kelsey said that she just wants, he wants her to get a new car. So it's one less thing that her ex is paying for. I mean,

Lori (12:09.259)
Now, I also wanted to bring up, wasn't, I wasn't real thrilled with Kelsey's mom and sister. They were kind of like throwing some jabs. instead of being like, we're so proud of you, this is gonna be so great, you're on your own. They were like, yeah, they were like, it's kind of small, and that's where your vanity's gonna go, and like, I was just like.

Kelli (12:25.334)
Because it's been two years.

Wendy (12:35.682)
Yeah, her sister said this was the size of your closet.

Lori (12:38.457)
Yeah, I was just like, why would you? I don't know, I just kind of messed up instead of being like, this is great. Yeah, I guess. Yeah.

Kelli (12:43.66)
Because if it's a lie, then they're just playing into it. You know? Like, this is so much smaller than you're used to, even though you haven't been there in two years. But we can't say that, so we gotta say some other bullshit.

Wendy (12:46.872)
Yeah.

Lori (12:53.426)
Right? Shit, right?

Wendy (13:00.558)
So then we're at Ashley's house and her son Dawson is doing much better. He's there doing a breathing treatment. She said what he has is cold induced asthma. And she said thank God her mom was there. She's like I'm 37 years old and I'm still very reliant on my parents. And you could see her mom is very involved. Yeah.

Kelli (13:20.118)
same.

Lori (13:22.231)
Nothing wrong with that. Yeah.

Kelli (13:28.716)
didn't realize she was that old. Not that she's old, but I'm just saying. didn't, like 37, she doesn't look 37, right? She looks like she's in her early to mid 30s. Well, I guess 37's close to mid 30s, but yeah, I was very surprised when she says she was 37.

Lori (13:36.875)
No, no, no, not at all. does not look like... Yeah, absolutely.

Lori (13:46.197)
Now have you ever had to have your kid do a breathing treatment?

Kelli (13:51.787)
when my kids were little, when they would get sick, my doctor would automatically put them on the nebulizer. Just to open, yeah, but it wasn't like a major machine. It was one like you pumped, you know. It had the mask and all that. It wasn't anything you had to plug in. So, yeah.

Lori (13:57.811)
Mm-hmm. You had the machine and everything?

Lori (14:10.137)
Yeah, Kayla's, had to plug in and the steroids used to make her like crazy. Like she would chew on the thing and oh, it was horrible. It was horrible. Oh, it was horrible. Horrible. Horrible.

Kelli (14:16.294)
really?

my gosh. Yeah, my kids had chronic, Tess had chronic strep throat, Joe had chronic ear aches, ear infections. but yeah, they would use the nebulizer when they were little. Yeah.

Lori (14:28.735)
Erex, yeah.

Lori (14:35.182)
Yeah.

Wendy (14:38.024)
Then we see her friend Lizzie. Did you talk about that?

Lori (14:44.02)
No.

Wendy (14:45.129)
Lizzie's going to help her shoot some content for her reels. She comes over and she's talking about how, Lizzie's like, well, how does Jared have time to do that if he's always at Audrey's? And she's like, well, he really doesn't. I'm okay with it though, because we don't really need the money. I make enough money and I'd rather him not be using his good looks on Instagram, which I guess is, yeah, yeah.

Kelli (15:11.488)
weird.

His good looks is how he got on reality TV and how you met him. Don't point the hand if he you.

Lori (15:17.155)
Absolutely.

Wendy (15:19.374)
I she does, I don't know, guess, I know, I know, I know.

Lori (15:21.539)
Yeah.

Kelli (15:24.576)
But you also want him to sell Audrey's because it takes up too much of his time and you're not making any money on it. So which is it?

Lori (15:31.893)
All of the above, Kelton.

Wendy (15:32.401)
Well, yeah, think that she would rather he sell Audrey so that he could have the time to do other things with her and the family. But he, I think, really wants it because he feels like he's doing something. Yeah.

Kelli (15:33.3)
All of you.

Kelli (15:46.922)
Right, he's contributing.

Wendy (15:51.485)
Then we see Joellen walks into her grandpa's house and this is like the first time she's gone there since he's passed and you know it's heartbreaking because there's so many memories there of know family events and Christmas events and she says that you know he was like a father to her you know he was he was there.

Kelli (16:09.27)
We still, they're not addressing where her father was growing up. They say nothing. Like, I wanna know, was your father around? Was your mother a single mother? Because I'm not defending her and this was a very hard scene to watch. But if she was a single mom, it gives a little bit more clarity as to why at some points she felt like it was just something she couldn't handle. Yeah.

Wendy (16:15.421)
No. No. No.

Lori (16:33.731)
She couldn't do it anymore. Yeah.

Wendy (16:37.809)
Yeah, because they're sitting outside on the porch and they're, you know, they're looking at pictures and stuff. And Joellen says to her mom that, you know, she wishes her mom was a little more maternal. And she's, Joellen says, you know, you weren't, you weren't very nice. And Joellen said, her mom said, well, you weren't nice to me either. She's like, yeah, but I'm not the parent. And she's like, it is true. Joellen's like, you know,

Lori (17:02.297)
true.

Kelli (17:03.766)
Yeah, it is true. It is true.

Wendy (17:06.857)
you just thought I'd be better off in somebody else's hands and her mother says lies. And then Joellen said, well, you used to say that I was bipolar. I was not bipolar. I was depressed, which again, as a teenage girl going through life, that's very common, right?

Kelli (17:26.572)
Totally understandable,

Lori (17:26.723)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (17:28.305)
Yeah, and she's like, you sent me to a place with drug addicts when I'd never done drugs. And the look on her mother's face, like I just looked at her mother's face and she...

To me, she looked remorseful, but I don't think she was. I don't know if she was shocked that she brought this up on camera. I don't know. I really don't know because...

Kelli (17:54.817)
You would hope that she gave her mother a heads up, but I think that an immediate reaction for all of us is to be a little defensive. And I think her mom started out a little bit like that and then realized and kind of checked herself.

Wendy (17:58.108)
I would.

Wendy (18:10.301)
Mm-hmm.

Lori (18:15.811)
But know, Joelle and Sed on the after show, really not in any better of a place. It's just sad. Very sad.

Wendy (18:15.934)
Yeah.

Kelli (18:20.382)
I know, which is very sad.

Wendy (18:23.665)
It is sad. It is sad.

Kelli (18:26.294)
But the thing is is that if her mother's apologized and she is trying to do better now with the grandkids, how long are you gonna make her pay for it? Obviously her sending you away for sneaking around with boys is a pretty extreme measure. But again, if she had no support from anybody else, she, know, listen, know, shit goes on here in my house. I'm like, sometimes I wish I could run away or send somebody away.

Lori (18:38.765)
That's a thing.

Lori (18:55.762)
Absolutely.

Kelli (18:56.106)
You know, but if she's apologetic now and remorseful now and trying to do better, mean, hopefully Jo Ellen's given her that grace, but we don't, yeah, we don't really know if she's doing it.

Wendy (19:05.469)
Well, that's the point.

I think from what she said on the after show is she's like at the same place. She thought that after her grandfather had passed, that her mother would be more present after she had that conversation with her kids.

Kelli (19:23.959)
she said something about a boyfriend that she doesn't say is her boyfriend.

Lori (19:27.193)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (19:27.801)
Right, and she doesn't like the boyfriend and the boyfriend invites her sister over for dinner and doesn't invite Joellen over for dinner. So, you know, he sounds like a problem. And if the mom is already a problem, then, you know, I think it was maybe just an act. The crying and the...

Kelli (19:37.376)
Yeah.

Lori (19:38.403)
Mm-hmm.

Lori (19:45.335)
Yeah, who knows?

Kelli (19:45.608)
It seems like her sister has gotten past whatever happened when they were kids.

Lori (19:51.843)
I feel like the mother, I think the mother treats the sister different though. The mother treats, yes, that the sister gets a lot more leeway and the sister in turn gives the mother a lot more leeway.

Wendy (19:52.201)
I don't think it was severe.

Kelli (19:56.96)
differently.

Wendy (19:57.361)
I do too.

Kelli (20:06.485)
Right. Right.

Wendy (20:07.741)
Yes, I think that's true. And the sister is not a mother herself, so there's that. You know, think everything we just said is true. I think it's a totally different dynamic.

Lori (20:08.609)
you know, so.

Lori (20:13.496)
Right.

Kelli (20:13.696)
Right.

Lori (20:16.025)
Okay.

Kelli (20:21.568)
Yeah.

Wendy (20:23.529)
It's sad though. Either way it's sad.

Lori (20:26.648)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (20:26.858)
It was a hard scene to watch because you felt the emotions. And she's not wrong, Joellen, she's not wrong for feeling that way. And it was sad for her to feel like this molded her to be a person that she doesn't love herself.

Wendy (20:31.517)
Yeah, because-

Wendy (20:44.593)
Right, right. I mean, her mother did give an example of how she was raised. And she said that, you know, one night my parents came home early, they surprised us and I had ran up the stairs and I hit my head and my head was bleeding and my eye was bleeding. And all my mother said is what about my floors? Like not about the six stitches that I needed. you know, right. So I mean, not that.

Kelli (21:02.166)
Yeah, my floor. They just cleaned my floors. Yeah.

Lori (21:08.791)
I'd just be happy somebody cleaned my floors.

Wendy (21:11.623)
Yeah, me too.

Kelli (21:11.82)
Listen, if you have them clean at once, they can come back tomorrow and clean them again.

Lori (21:17.654)
For anybody to come and clean them besides me is bonus.

Kelli (21:20.896)
Right. Well, the takeaway is that the three of us are extremely blessed to have the mothers that we did that set such a good example and showed us so much love.

Wendy (21:30.983)
Yeah, absolutely, absolutely. Then we see Liz gets to her dispensary and she's in the lab there and Dolores is meeting her there and they're going to create a menopause gummy, which I am so excited about.

Kelli (21:32.78)
You

Kelli (21:47.254)
Yeah, let's get it. It's not done yet. You said on the after show, yeah, it's not done yet, but let's go. Time's ticking away.

Wendy (21:49.437)
But it's not done yet.

Lori (21:49.507)
Yes.

Wendy (21:53.81)
Yes.

Lori (21:55.011)
So she said, Island is the first state to mandate workplace accommodations for menopause. So I guess like somebody in my situation before I was on the hormone replacement, the bioidentical, I used to have to go into the kitchen at work and open the freezer and put my head in it. So I'm thinking.

If I lived in Rhode Island, nobody could say shit about that. It would be totally acceptable. Yeah.

Kelli (22:27.36)
That would be totally acceptable.

Wendy (22:29.991)
Right. Because now you are a protected class in Rhode Island. You're a protected class, which is great. Which is great.

Lori (22:34.027)
Yes, yes. So it bars workplace discrimination based on menopause symptoms. So no one could say shit to me. Not that they do anyway now because they're very smart there.

Kelli (22:36.108)
That's so bloody.

Wendy (22:44.307)
That's awesome. Right.

Kelli (22:49.004)
All right, know your place.

Wendy (22:49.137)
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

Lori (22:51.257)
Yeah, you know menopause is uh, it's it's It's no joke. It's no joke. It's a real thing and Liz I was like, oh you bitch Said she lost weight I was like, oh my god, I gained like 20 pounds I don't know why she said she was so sick

Wendy (23:01.031)
It's a real thing.

Kelli (23:01.268)
No, it's not. It's definitely a real thing.

Kelli (23:13.888)
Well, she was so sick, she said, right?

Wendy (23:16.809)
She said it almost killed her, yeah. She said it almost killed her. She's like, it affected her life so much it almost killed her. She lost so much weight. I don't know. mean, for her maybe it was anxiety and when she doesn't eat, you know, everyone affects, it affects everyone differently, you know?

Lori (23:28.609)
Yeah, who knows what it was.

Kelli (23:29.056)
Yeah. Yeah.

Lori (23:33.569)
Yep. But the other sign she said, she couldn't get out of bed, she didn't recognize herself, couldn't focus, she'd rethink your entire life, memory loss. I mean, it just, it goes on and on and on and on. I've had two frozen shoulders, now my hips all messed up. It's it's unbelievable what the havoc that menopause.

reeks on you and thank God people are starting to talk about it. So thank you Delores and Liz for talking about it because it needs to be done.

Wendy (24:03.475)
Yeah.

Wendy (24:11.593)
Yeah. It's important. Yeah, it definitely needs to be talked about. Delores said her and Paul almost broke up over that they were fighting over the thermostat.

Lori (24:16.408)
And it's.

Lori (24:20.109)
The thermostat. yeah.

Wendy (24:22.237)
I mean, what man is gonna fight over a thermostat? Like, come on, get your shit together, Paul.

Kelli (24:25.5)
Eric- Eric would. He'd be like, go put shorts on, you'll be fine. Get the fuck outta here.

Lori (24:27.635)
yeah. Yeah. I was going to say Eric. Yeah. So.

Wendy (24:30.377)
no. No. My husband gets in bed every night complaining, it's freezing, it's freezing, it's freezing. I was like, put another blanket on pal, figure it out. This is what we got. This is what we got.

Kelli (24:38.794)
Whatever.

Lori (24:40.281)
Another glycomon, yep. Yep. I used to have to sleep with ice packs in my bed. Actual ice packs. I put them all up my feet. But thank God, thank God the hormones that my hot flashes are very minimal.

Kelli (24:51.968)
Really?

Wendy (24:59.689)
Well, that's awesome.

Lori (25:00.697)
It's a beautiful thing. so menopause is like men's midlife crisis, but with mental, physical, and emotional symptoms.

Kelli (25:11.19)
Right. It's not just the urge to go buy a convertible vet.

Lori (25:15.309)
now.

Wendy (25:17.897)
next we're at Rula's house and Billy and Alicia are going to be coming over for dinner. boy, this was something else. This was something.

Kelli (25:26.348)
sorry, but Brian, worst dinner. I want to say guest but I know we were at his home but worst dinner conversationalist ever. I don't ever want to sit and have dinner with him talking about that the food looks like an organ.

Lori (25:35.299)
Host, yeah, dinner host.

Wendy (25:36.093)
Host.

Lori (25:43.116)
now.

Lori (25:46.871)
I have to ask my boss about this because my boss is a podiatrist and a foot and ankle surgeon. So I am going to ask him first thing tomorrow morning if the, what was it? Yeah, if an Achilles tendon looks like a flamingo. So I'm going to find out this information for us.

Wendy (25:59.219)
Was it Philly Mignon?

Kelli (26:05.836)
I mean, how can it? It's not even big enough.

Wendy (26:06.259)
Great.

Lori (26:09.517)
I don't know, I don't know. But Alicia's face, when Brian's talking about pizza mama and their sauce, Alicia's face when Brian says, when I get home at midnight, that he can eat it and not get indigestion. And then when Rula says he wouldn't lie, Alicia was just like, her face was great.

Kelli (26:23.931)
my God.

Wendy (26:32.201)
It was the most awkward dinner conversation I've ever seen between Rula trying to cover for him when Brian got the audible text alert and he looked at the camera and then he asked, looked right at the camera. He looked right at the camera and then he asked Rula if he could go, he asked, can I go to the bathroom? And then he comes back and said he had a work call.

Kelli (26:32.599)
my god.

Lori (26:38.403)
Bizarre.

Kelli (26:46.688)
looked right at the camera. He looked right at the camera.

Lori (26:55.641)
Yeah, that was bizarre. was like, what?

Wendy (27:01.865)
WHAT?!

Lori (27:02.77)
my gosh. Stop it.

Kelli (27:06.27)
Is the-

Lori (27:07.735)
So then we find out that he has two things in his practice. So the front is Rhode Island aesthetics. That's the one that the cockroach has part ownership in. And then in the back is Rhode Island foot care. So he must have two businesses in one building. And then we find out...

Kelli (27:31.372)
you

Wendy (27:35.347)
But how? Go ahead.

Lori (27:37.325)
that the weirdo Brian is like micro dosing on ozempic, then taking steroids, then botoxing. was just like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Slow your roll, Brian. Like, yeah, he was, he drank, yeah, he was pounding tequila or whatever he's doing.

Kelli (27:49.586)
All the- I mean, he- did he drink a lot? He was like naming everything.

Wendy (27:54.577)
He had three shots. Didn't he have three shots before they got there or two?

Kelli (27:59.127)
Wait, how about the story of the night he first met her and he kept feeding her doubles?

Wendy (28:03.953)
I almost fell over. I'm like, what?

Kelli (28:07.29)
I mean, Brian.

Lori (28:10.359)
Yeah. Yeah.

Kelli (28:11.926)
You're kind of incriminating yourself.

Wendy (28:15.069)
No, you are incriminating yourself. You are a predator.

Lori (28:15.081)
yeah. It was madness. It was madness.

Kelli (28:17.556)
Yeah.

Wendy (28:21.268)
my gosh.

That was craziness. But I mean, Alicia the whole time, even when he's talking about like the microdosing ozempic, she's like, this is incredible information.

Kelli (28:37.036)
She's like, you're making me fat, you're bringing me home the pizza. And Ruel is getting all this stuff done for free.

Wendy (28:45.513)
And Billy's like, you don't need it. You don't need it. She does it.

Lori (28:48.439)
Yeah, you don't need NG does it?

Kelli (28:51.02)
Yeah, and Brian's like, if I feel like I'm gaining weight, I, you know, I do some ozempic. And then if I feel like I'm losing muscle, I just start taking a steroid. I mean, this guy is, when I say jacked up, I mean, jacked up with pill. I don't mean jacked up like muscles because he doesn't look like he goes to the gym. Sorry.

Lori (29:03.683)
Yeah, yeah, definitely. Yeah, definitely. Yeah, he's, I think he's a psychopath. That's what I think.

Kelli (29:12.31)
Well, he's a narcissist. He's the epitome of a narcissist. Yeah.

Wendy (29:12.679)
And poor Alicia. Yeah.

Lori (29:13.945)
Absolutely.

of a narcissist, yes.

Wendy (29:18.695)
He definitely is. You Alicia's decided that she's not going to tell her. And I don't think she could. mean, you cannot give that job to Alicia. What were they thinking? What were they thinking?

Lori (29:24.877)
No.

Yeah, no.

Kelli (29:28.136)
No, and even, who said it, Kelsey or Rosie said it on the after show. Like she wasn't the one. Why did we even think that to begin with?

Lori (29:35.895)
Yeah, yeah, no.

Kelli (29:38.657)
Listen, you're not gonna, you're not gonna, well, I guess they want to do it in front of him because, you know, then he can't deny it. Like he's right there. Listen, it doesn't matter. You could serve this to her on a silver platter. She doesn't care. We saw her on Watch What Happens Live. She doesn't care. She's keeping her family together for whatever reason. The side piece, she, I think, I really think that the side piece is just pissed that Rula got the housewife position. She probably thought she should have gotten it.

Lori (29:45.517)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Wendy (29:52.765)
That's it.

Wendy (30:10.462)
Well, did you see, I think you maybe even sent it to us, that woman who's a psychologist, how she explained it? Yeah, I mean, you know, the woman, she's a psychologist, right? Yeah, so she seems to think based on what she's seen and based on Rula's actions that he's blackmailing her with something. He's holding something over her because she gave Rula, Ryan's holding something over Rula.

Lori (30:16.269)
Yes, I sent that to you, yeah.

Lori (30:22.989)
Yes, I believe so, yeah.

Kelli (30:35.104)
The mistress or ruler?

Lori (30:37.187)
Brian. Brian over Rula.

Kelli (30:40.372)
Rula, not the mistress.

Wendy (30:40.979)
that yes, yes, over Rula because why like, it doesn't make sense that she's staying. It doesn't make sense that she's turning a blind eye. She's financially independent herself. He's got something like he's definitely a narcissist, know, him trying to protect, know, don't don't, you know, don't call the police, I'll lose my license, like all just all the way he acts and interacts like she wouldn't be acting that way unless

Lori (30:42.073)
Mm-hmm.

Lori (31:01.411)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (31:08.814)
He wasn't blackmailing her. There's something he's holding over her head.

Kelli (31:11.05)
Maybe it's got something to do with her family.

Lori (31:13.549)
Who knows, who knows what it is, but it is a bizarre situation.

Wendy (31:15.059)
Yeah.

It is bizarre situation. It is.

Kelli (31:17.792)
Yeah. I wish she could leave him, because I'd like to see her have like a single season, you know? Where she's just dating these rich guys from Rhode Island. She's beautiful. She's absolutely stunning, Rula.

Lori (31:23.939)
Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.

Lori (31:27.929)
That'll be fine. That'll be fine.

Wendy (31:32.509)
Yeah.

Kelli (31:33.13)
I mean, there goes her free Botox, but I'm sure she can just go afford to pay some, you know.

Lori (31:35.789)
Right. Yeah. Yeah.

Wendy (31:36.873)
don't think she needs it. I really don't think she needs it, to be honest with you. Okay, next scene is Rosie's on the phone with Rich, letting him know that Kelsey's on the way over, because she's going to cut her hair, and Kelsey's on the phone with her boyfriend saying that she's on the way over to Rosie's and that she's got this joke that she's got planned, that she's going to go over the loudspeaker with the siren.

and talk about the 8,000 square foot house. And Rosie at her house has the plans out ready to go to show her, along with the measuring stick, so they can walk through the foundation. Okay.

Lori (32:13.785)
So they were both messed up. So my main question is, is why is Kelsey's car hooked up like that?

Wendy (32:21.065)
I was wondering the same thing.

Lori (32:23.161)
Like, why? Yeah, like, why do you have, like, a... Why? Why do you have that? It's odd. I mean, if it was me, I would have been outside, I would have been like, ah, yeah, ha ha, funny bitch, let's go inside. Like, I would have just blown it off. Like, no, you would be pissed? See, I would...

Kelli (32:23.606)
Well, what with the loudspeaker?

Wendy (32:25.31)
with the siren, the siren and the speaker.

Yeah, why do you have that?

Kelli (32:34.4)
Yeah. Yeah.

Kelli (32:42.432)
Not me. I would have been fucking pissed. Fuck yeah. Imagine if Rosie went through the rich guy's neighborhood. I'd be furious if I were Rosie and I loved every second of Rosie eating Kelsey up. I do think Kelsey is jealous as hell of Rosie now. I wasn't so convinced before and I'm not even that big of a fan of Rosie, but I loved her eating her up the way she did.

Wendy (32:48.773)
I wouldn't be pissed. I wouldn't be pissed either. Laurie, would be just like you. So funny.

Lori (32:51.999)
I will read this. Really?

Kelli (33:09.696)
And how about production when she finally got her out of the house, production unlocking the door and letting her back in. That was crazy.

Lori (33:13.281)
Let her back in. Let her back in. But now when Rosie said to her, sucking dick is not a career bitch, was like, that's...

like.

Kelli (33:30.486)
both saying nasty shit to each other, although Kelsey was not getting many words in edgewise. But now, if I were Rosie, I would have been furious. That's your neighborhood. These are your neighbors. Like, come on, what if Rosie did that in Kelsey's ex-boyfriend's rich neighborhood? Would she like it? No, nobody would like that. I would have been furious, and I'm so glad Rosie reacted the way she did.

Lori (33:35.531)
No, mean, Kelsey was he morally saying nasty. Really?

Lori (33:52.521)
on them. That's so funny.

Wendy (33:57.007)
It was so funny watching them get so jacked up at each other. mean, Andrew happened to be sitting next to me when I was watching it and I'm taking notes and he's like, what are you doing? You're taking the wrong notes. That's not what happened. I was like, wait, what? So when Kelsey is yelling at Rosie and she's putting her finger in her face, right? And then I didn't realize it the first time I saw it. Rosie went like up on her toes to make herself bigger and was yelling louder.

Lori (34:24.599)
Yes, we do.

Wendy (34:26.3)
And that's when Kelsey used her forearm to push her back. He's like, but Kelsey went in first with that finger. See how close that finger is to her face? I was like, yeah, you're right. It's so funny.

Lori (34:37.529)
Get him, referee!

Kelli (34:37.6)
Tess was in the other room, she was like, what the hell are you watching? I was like, these are the new housewives.

Lori (34:40.866)
I think.

Wendy (34:43.483)
Yeah, yeah. It was funny. then Rosie grabbing her bag of stuff and dragging it down the stairs and Kelsey trying to grab it back from her. I'm like, my gosh, this is crazy.

Lori (34:50.009)
I'm not gonna do this.

Kelli (34:54.098)
I don't think Kelsey had any idea that Rosie was going to react that way, obviously. And I don't think Kelsey thought Rosie had it in her. I think that this is all pent up from everything Kelsey has said to her, especially when they were at the mansion and she was like, that's the first honest thing you've said. I think that this was all pent up. And again, the hypocrisy of Kelsey, even saying that when now we find out that she hasn't lived in that house for two years.

Wendy (34:59.76)
No.

Wendy (35:17.534)
Right.

Lori (35:24.014)
Bye.

Kelli (35:24.202)
Like, but this is what I don't understand. Why are like, why are Liz and Joellen, like they're defending Kelsey on the after show?

Wendy (35:34.035)
Well, because Liz and Kelsey are very tight. And like Rosie said, Liz likes people that agree with her. And Kelsey and Liz are very tight. And, you know, if Liz is involved in what we think she's involved in and Kelsey's ex-man's father is a judge in Rhode Island, who are you going to keep close? Who are you going to keep close? I... Yes.

Kelli (35:41.12)
Right. Right.

Lori (35:49.634)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (35:58.657)
Yeah, well, he passed away, the father passed away now, but yeah.

Lori (36:01.656)
Right.

Wendy (36:03.067)
Yes, but again, like it adds up to me. Yeah. Yeah.

Lori (36:06.425)
That was only recently, so yeah, it was only recently.

Kelli (36:08.778)
I think it's coming up on a year. I think it was August of 2025 or something. But either way, yeah. Right, he was still alive when they were filming,

Lori (36:11.895)
Yeah.

Wendy (36:12.669)
But that's when they were filming. But that's when they were filming.

Lori (36:16.799)
Right, right. And you know, listen, it's you know, I'm pretty sure that Rosie knew what the jig was, but you had to kind of play along because it's a big part of the storyline. It's a draw for viewership. Yeah, it's a draw for viewership, so you know.

Wendy (36:17.841)
Right.

Kelli (36:32.064)
Right. Well, she said it on Watch What Happens Live, though, Rosie, right?

Kelli (36:41.044)
Right. So even if you don't like her, you still want people to watch the show.

Lori (36:42.487)
gotta play the game.

Yeah.

Wendy (36:47.625)
But what about Slam Pig? I never heard that. Had you ever heard that?

Lori (36:51.671)
I had never heard that before. No. That was pretty funny.

Kelli (36:53.278)
Mm-mm.

Wendy (36:56.243)
So good. So good.

Kelli (36:59.22)
And all the different, like nobody had the same definition of it. They all had different versions of it, yeah. No, it was a good episode. It ended wild though. That was wild.

Lori (37:03.309)
Right.

Wendy (37:03.333)
No. No.

Lori (37:10.913)
Yeah, but I mean it was kind of messed up that Rosie had the plans out and the measure. I mean, if you're really looking to make amends, I don't know, I guess they're both equally guilty of perpetuating the problem.

Wendy (37:11.368)
It sure did.

Kelli (37:26.56)
Yeah, it just wasn't as an obnoxious thing to do. That's what I don't like about Kelsey. She's just very, she acts like she's better than, she acts like she's better than. But I think to me that's, when somebody acts like that, that's insecurity. She's just insecure and she's jealous of Rosie. She is jealous of Rosie and if she isn't, she's gotta stop acting that way because she looks it. She's making herself look jealous.

Lori (37:32.076)
as the morning.

Lori (37:44.566)
Absolutely.

Lori (37:53.015)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (37:56.849)
Yeah, she definitely is making herself look jealous.

What did you think of Rosie's dress and watch what happens live? The pink feathers?

Kelli (38:09.396)
I don't even remember it and I watched it.

Wendy (38:12.042)
Oh my gosh, it was, it was hot pink and it was all feathers. I mean, I actually thought it was, I thought it was, I mean, a beautiful cocktail dress, but to be sitting there and watch what happens live with all these feathers, that was a little much. Yes.

Lori (38:12.46)
I so.

Lori (38:16.897)
Okay.

Lori (38:24.087)
Yeah, it was a little floating around.

Kelli (38:25.878)
But wasn't she with Shemeah? And I'm sure Shemeah was wearing something fabulous too. So maybe it was like, you know, fitting.

Lori (38:34.937)
Yeah, it was a little much.

Wendy (38:34.953)
don't even know what Shemeah was wearing, to be honest with you. I don't know.

Kelli (38:38.144)
I don't either, but when they started showing clips of the Atlanta women reading each other, Rosie was like, your friends are crazy.

Wendy (38:49.307)
Yeah. And then to find out, which I did not know this, I mean, we knew that Shemeah's husband was the HVAC king, but I didn't know he was in Rhode Island. What is it, all over the country? Right.

Kelli (38:58.72)
Yeah. Me neither. When they said that I was like, what?

Yeah. Yeah, I didn't know that either. Yeah.

Wendy (39:05.917)
Yeah, good for her.

Wendy (39:11.613)
Yeah, so on Watch What Happens Live, it was like you said, Shemeah and Rosie, and Rosie's husband Rich is the bartender. I cannot wait to see Rich sing his, I can't wait to see his Frank Sinatra thing. That's think in two weeks. I'm looking forward to that.

Kelli (39:26.4)
Yeah, that's gonna be good. Yeah.

Lori (39:27.398)
yeah.

Lori (39:31.149)
That'll be fun.

Kelli (39:32.586)
Yeah, sorry, I keep scratching my eye because it's allergy season in Jersey and the pollen is out of control. Sorry.

Wendy (39:36.969)
Mmm.

Lori (39:39.907)
killing you.

Wendy (39:39.911)
Yes, the pollen is out of control. All right, so that's all we have for Rhode Island. I loved it. You know, I love the show. Goes by so quick.

Kelli (39:50.113)
not a disappointing episode yet to date.

Wendy (39:53.051)
No, no, episode eight, yeah. Like I said, I can't wait to see Rich sing in his Sinatra. Yeah.

Lori (40:00.569)
That'll be good.

Kelli (40:01.814)
So there's only gotta be like four or five episodes of the season left, I would imagine, and then a reunion. They haven't filmed the reunion yet, right?

Wendy (40:07.377)
No, no, Andy did ask for questions and didn't you see Tamar ask the question? Yeah.

Kelli (40:15.685)
yeah, yeah, Yeah, she asked the question about Kelsey not living in the house for two years.

Wendy (40:20.871)
Yeah. So hopefully that question gets addressed at the reunion.

Lori (40:25.657)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (40:25.8)
Mm-hmm. Yeah, we shall see.

Wendy (40:27.208)
Right?

Wendy (40:31.251)
Yeah. All right, so thank you for watching and listening. Please subscribe and give us five star reviews. Bye.

Kelli (40:39.444)
Bye.

Lori (40:40.441)
Bye, I'm gonna go check out my extensions so I don't sleep in.

Kelli (40:42.944)
Ha ha ha!

Wendy (40:45.674)
you