Summer House Reunion Part 3: Amanda & West EXPOSED as More Secrets Surface

Summer House Reunion Part 3: Amanda & West EXPOSED as More Secrets Surface

Podcast Summary: Summer House Reunion Part 3

The final reunion installment delivers one of the most explosive friendship betrayals in Summer House history as Amanda and West face relentless questioning about their relationship timeline, alleged emotional affair, and the fallout with Ciara and Kyle. Amanda insists nothing physical happened while she was with Kyle, but cast members remain skeptical about the emotional connection that developed throughout the summer. West admits they grew increasingly close and later developed romantic feelings, while Amanda acknowledges she lied and mishandled the situation.

The biggest bombshell comes when West's dating history with Mija is exposed. Cast members reveal that Mija believed she was in an exclusive relationship with West for over a year while he was seeing other women, sending Valentine's flowers, saying "I love you," and introducing her to friends and family. This revelation causes Amanda to visibly question what she thought she knew about West.

Ciara delivers some of the reunion's most emotional moments, detailing the pain of discovering Amanda had become involved with her ex. She accuses Amanda of betraying their friendship and reveals how devastated she was by the news. Jesse is brought to tears, saying he feels like he's losing a brother in West, while Kyle expresses concern that Amanda may be vulnerable after ending her 10-year relationship and worries about West's commitment issues.

Amanda repeatedly apologizes to Ciara, admitting she destroyed an important friendship, while West struggles to convince the group that his feelings for Amanda are genuine. The reunion ends with little resolution, leaving friendships fractured and raising serious questions about whether Amanda and West's relationship can survive the damage caused to the group.

The bonus episode teaser delivers one final twist as Mija reveals West texted her "you win" after the reunion, while West admits to Kyle that he does love Amanda and has for a very long time. 

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Transcript

Wendy (00:01.102)
Welcome to We Wine Whenever, I'm Wendy.

Kelli (00:04.48)
I'm Callie.

Wendy (00:06.38)
We are here talking about Summer House Reunion Part 3, but before we do that, we'd like to ask you a favor. Please go over to YouTube and hit subscribe if you've not done that already. Please give us five star reviews and subscribe on Instagram, Facebook, TikTok, and all the places. And thank you for those who have done it. So we start out with Sierra is still in her dressing room and

Kelli (00:28.216)
Thank you.

Wendy (00:36.28)
She's talking to me, And they're all getting ready to go back out on stage. Out on stage, Bailey's sitting there and she says to Amanda, come sit with me. And Amanda comes and sits down and she's like, I am very worried about you.

And Amanda said, I appreciate that you're saying that. And Amanda's saying, I'm naive to him. I've had a lot of conversations. And he made me feel. And Bailey's like, say I don't trust him. And Bailey is still rooting for her. I like that she is kind of empathetic to Amanda. But she has seen through West, I think, from the very beginning.

but she's still trying to be there because nobody is there.

Kelli (01:26.486)
I totally agree with you. I thought it was nice of Bailey to reach out like that and just kinda let Amanda know like you you do have like one friend here. And I think that's important because obviously Amanda's been open about her mental health issues. So she Bailey said, I still don't trust him and Amanda said, That's okay. That's okay.

Wendy (01:46.198)
Yeah, yeah.

And, but the thing is, and I noticed this, you know, even then she's like, it's just hard for me to sit on this stage and I try and explain myself when like no one will listen. And to me, she still looks completely like this. Like this is someone who isn't coming at you. Like she, I'm sorry, but I don't know what it was she was taking. I don't know what gives you that no expression because it was so, it was more obvious in this.

part of the reunion, think that it was earlier in the reunion. Like, she had to take something on that break. I don't know what.

Kelli (02:27.63)
I agree with you. I have written down that she and West both seem robotic and I looked up I should have kept it up. Give me one second. I looked up beta blockers because I I know we're not there yet. But when Andy asked West, Are you on a beta blocker? I'm like, What's a beta blocker? So it's a prescription medication.

Wendy (02:44.952)
Sierra Miller. Yeah, she put out a statement and explained that whole thing.

Kelli (02:49.526)
Yeah, it slows your heart rate, relaxes your blood vessels, decreases your cardiac output. I mean, it sounds like it's a Xanax. Is it a Xana is that what a Xan is a Xanax a beta blocker?

Wendy (03:00.93)
I have no idea, but she said that it doesn't turn off your emotion. It just stops like your heart from racing fast. Like it's, you know, to stop anxiety.

Kelli (03:08.32)
It doesn't shut off your emotion, but it definitely has an effect on you where you're probably not going to respond as you normally would. I understand Sierra is pissed. I understand she's still very, very angry. I do think it's time for her to kind of like listen, at the reunion, yeah, go at it. But we're very removed now. You've got to move on.

Friendship, done. West, fuck him. You gotta stop the post though. Enough is enough. That's my personal opinion. I'm probably gonna get some hate for that, but

Wendy (03:47.725)
Yeah, mean, no, that's right. Listen, we are all entitled to our opinions, right? I don't think we're as far removed from it as we think though, because they just were in Italy because they didn't want to be here for the reunion airing. And we know that they're together. And it's being, it's posted out there. Like it's, it's out there. So I think her statement was fair. And I, you know, I think her statement was fair. That, that's all I'll say.

Kelli (04:05.026)
Mm.

Wendy (04:16.94)
but neither one of them.

Kelli (04:17.304)
So we Sierra put something out about beta blockers though. That's what you're saying? okay. It's just interesting 'cause I follow her and I didn't see it.

Wendy (04:20.672)
Yeah, she put out with...

Yeah, she put it on Instagram, what a beta, exactly what you just said, and that it doesn't take away your emotions. Like it just, you know, regulates, you know, your heart rate and things like that. And it doesn't, I would imagine that it doesn't. Like there's not, the only thing I can think of that would take away, like, putting you asleep, like would be like some sort of like tranquilizer or something. have no, listen, I don't know drugs. Like drugs are not my thing.

Kelli (04:51.37)
No, I know, I know. And and honestly, I I know them unfortunately because of other people, not because of myself. I did take Xanax a few times though. when I was going through a stressful situation. And I will say this, Xanax to me seems like something where it would not take away your emotion but just again, where you wouldn't really respond. It's just like things roll off and you're like, Okay, okay.

I think they I think I thought that's what Amanda, I thought Amanda maybe was on Xanax, but I don't know. And listen, I don't care. You looked terrible sitting there, non-responsive, not remorseful at all. She just didn't seem remorseful. Even when she was apologizing, saying I fucked up this friendship, she still didn't seem remorseful.

Wendy (05:22.018)
I see.

Wendy (05:29.656)
Yeah.

Wendy (05:44.299)
No, she didn't. She didn't. And that was, yeah, she didn't. So then they're still, you know, they're out there sitting on the couch and they're waiting for Andy to come in. And Lindsay says to Jessie and Carl, like, you're both six foot five. Like, Jessie, why are you so slouched over? And then she's like, maybe it's, maybe it's Carl's torso is longer. Kyle says, well, not every six foot five man is built alike. And I was like, my gosh, this is so funny. And then he...

Kelli (05:59.259)
Yeah.

Wendy (06:12.472)
He's like, my gosh, remember when we were fighting and I called him a six foot five mother effer? And he starts laughing and then they all start laughing and Lindsay's like, yeah, like that's not, was that supposed to be an insult? It was so funny. I was like, I know, I know. Listen, I think that, you know, it was needed. Like some levity was needed in this situation, you know? And then Andy does finally come out and he's like, okay, we're gonna dive into.

Kelli (06:25.976)
Really gotta work on your your trash talking, Kyle.

Kelli (06:33.91)
Yeah. Yeah.

Wendy (06:40.812)
what's going on, but first we need to discuss how we got there. And he said, West, you were a steady support for Amanda all summer. At what point did that start to feel like more than just a friendship?

Wes said, we started going out a lot in February and March with a lot of my friends and having a lot of fun. He said, I think seeing her happy and have a lot of fun and like being Amanda and I didn't see, I didn't see prior. Meanwhile, she's sitting next to him looking like she's stoned out of her mind. Like that's what I wrote down. Like she literally looks like she's just stoned out of her mind. Like.

Kelli (07:21.802)
Even the way she was talking, like her voice was like this. It was like robotic.

Wendy (07:25.728)
Yes! Yes!

Yeah, stone cold face, like it was just, you know.

I was bringing her around my friends. That was special to me. I know it sounds so black and white, but it was a treat for me to see Amanda look incredibly happy. We started spending more time together. And Andy says to Amanda, like, was there a moment with you when your feelings for Wes clicked? She's like, not really. He said to me, am I crazy? Like, is there something here? And then she said, it just, all the emotions came flooding in.

Kelli (08:06.754)
Yeah, like it wasn't a build up. I have to be honest with you, and you're gonna think I'm naive, and I'm sure all the listeners are. I really don't think there was anything going on last summer between them. Now, with that said, I think when West and Jesse joined the house, I think that they were attracted to all of the women. I mean, look how Jesse acted with Paige. You know, like Jesse had to be reminded, like she's got a boyfriend.

I think that that's and and remember Jesse was commenting on Amanda's posts, like the fire signs and stuff, where when he was hanging out with Lexi, she was like, That's inappropriate. You shouldn't be doing that. I think that that was just their relationships. But when West said, I think I've been in love with her for a long time, that I believe. I believe that. But I just don't think there was I do believe Amanda when she said she was so wrapped up in her marriage ending and

trying to navigate her leaving. Maybe she had feelings for West, but I just person I don't think anything physical was going on. But I guess maybe that's what they admit to, that there was emotional. I don't know. I don't think they were communicating it to each other.

Wendy (09:15.628)
Yeah. Because then Andy says, to be clear, were you having an affair this summer? And they both said, absolutely not. And Wes said, listen, because I lied to people in this room, I understand why, like, nobody's going to believe us. Jesse said, not only did you lie to us, but you made us feel like we were crazy.

Kelli (09:16.6)
But I could be naive.

Wendy (09:37.387)
And then Andy goes over to me, on Watch What Happens Live, I asked you like, when do you think something happened between West and Amanda? And she said, this was on April 14th that he asked her. She said, looking back, I would say yes. She didn't think it at the time, but now looking back on April 14th, she said yes. And he said, well, what made you look back and say that? She said, well, I can give you a couple examples. For example,

Kyle and Karl got into a fight and Amanda, you and I and the girls were in the kitchen and you're so cool and collective when you're talking to us and as soon as you see West, when you walk in the door, you go to his arms and you start crying. And it was true, I looked at that, I'm like, how does that just happen? I just.

Kelli (10:29.26)
I really feel like she was just emotional because he pulled his chair over by her and and what she said last week. Listen, I'm not defending Amanda. I don't want anybody to think I'm defending Amanda. But when she said, no, it's always been the girls sticking up for me when it came to Kyle and his behavior. And finally, one of the guys, even though we saw Carl do it as well, one of the guys like pulled his chair over and was like, Kyle, stop talking to your wife like that.

Wendy (10:38.988)
Yeah.

Kelli (10:59.538)
I thought I think that's why she got like a flood of emotion when she saw him in the foyer. But again I could be wrong.

Wendy (11:06.486)
Right, no, right, no. And then the other time was that same night when you go outside and, know, Carl's out there and you go behind Amanda with your arms around her and like your arms, like your hands are near her breasts. Like, I think that's weird.

Kelli (11:24.652)
I totally agree with that. And she said, You wouldn't grab me like that and he wouldn't have. He wouldn't have grabbed Lindsay like that. He wouldn't have.

Wendy (11:29.761)
Right.

Kelli (11:34.434)
The but I again I feel like Sierra, Pai, Amanda, West, Jesse, like they they all when Jesse and West came into the house, like it was kind of that blurred line there.

Even with Jesse and Sierra last summer, like Lexi had to be like, Yo, enough. If we're dating each other, then you don't act like that with

Wendy (11:55.361)
Mm-hmm. Right. Right. Right. I mean, they've definitely had flirty banter. I will 100 % agree to that. But to cross the line...

Kelli (12:03.916)
Yeah. Yeah.

No, that grab that was close to her boobs was that was a lot.

Wendy (12:12.406)
Yeah. Yeah.

Wendy (12:19.832)
But Andy said to West at the reunion, did you have a crush on Amanda at that time? And he said, no, but we definitely got way closer. So on the reunion stage, he's saying that he didn't have a crush on her. But then we see next week on the new bonus episode when he does a sit down with Kyle, he says, I've always been in love with her.

It's like, come on.

Kelli (12:47.66)
I know. I d I think that he lies so much he doesn't even know what he's lying about anymore. He doesn't even know what to believe when it comes out of his mouth. Honestly.

Wendy (12:55.917)
Yeah.

Wendy (12:59.97)
And then Andy asks Amanda if she had a crush on him and she's like, no, I was dealing with my own situation and my marriage fallout. I do too, I do believe that.

Kelli (13:09.664)
I do believe that, however, that I however, on the boat, remember when she said like or when she texts like, wow, when Wes said best weekend ever and she was like, Wow, like he chose the weekend I wasn't there. That was a little weird. But again, they had like a weird ban like a flirty banter, like you said. It's hard to decipher because of their friendship going into this debacle.

Wendy (13:27.256)
No, that was a little weird.

Wendy (13:31.948)
Yeah, I mean.

Wendy (13:40.194)
I agree.

Wendy (13:45.974)
And then Amanda said, what's so frustrating is that I'm not an effing cheater. I'm not going to step out on Kyle. I'm not going to do things that are inappropriate. I've cheated. I've been cheated on and I've been hurt.

And then Lindsay said, we're not talking about hooking up. We don't think you guys hooked up over the summer. Sierra said, I think you definitely had an emotional affair. And Wes said, we definitely became closer throughout the summer. So again, it goes back to the emotional affair versus a physical affair. Obviously, an emotional affair is worse, right?

Kelli (14:24.034)
Right. Abs I mean, yeah, it is. Although I don't wanna, you know, picture my husband with some you know, it it's all bad, let's face it. But emotional and then over time, you know, it's like that's such a betrayal of trust. That's what it is. That's more of a betrayal, I guess.

Wendy (14:27.459)
Right?

Wendy (14:40.098)
Right.

Wendy (14:45.432)
Well, I think that's the whole situation is it is a betrayal and that's where the problem lies. That's where the problem lies.

Kelli (14:49.164)
Yeah.

Kelli (14:52.8)
Yeah. And I do think that that's more of Sierra's issue is the way like West, she expects to lie to her, but Amanda, like, come on. And and Jesse the same thing, like, but with both of them. Like, especially if they were denying it and making him feel like he was crazy for thinking it. That's so that I mean I don't I don't even think I would be capable of doing that. I don't even think I'm capable of lying like that.

Wendy (15:04.227)
Right.

Kelli (15:22.498)
I mean, I'm not a liar to begin with, but you have to I mean, that's serious commitment to try to make your best friend think they're crazy for saying you're doing something that you're actually doing. Yeah. Yeah.

Wendy (15:34.201)
that you're actually doing, exactly. And then Lindsay says, you know, when you were yelling at West, it seemed like you were doing it on behalf of Sierra when they were at that party and that girl was sitting on his lap and he was kissing her. You said, Amanda said, there's a level of respect we have to have to live here together. So she recognized it in that situation. And like Lindsay said, like,

We thought you were doing it on behalf of Sierra, but now looking back on it, like...

Kelli (16:10.348)
Yeah. Yep. It did seem like it was coming from something more and even Kyle was like, I could why like why was I getting yelled at in that res in that s moment? And she did. She was like, You really want to argue with me over this? Like, okay.

Wendy (16:18.55)
Right. Right. And then Kyle said I.

Mm-hmm. Yeah. Then Kyle says, have one timeline question that I'm a little concerned about. Just because you lied once, I'm going to give you one last chance to take your word. He said, so Brianna, we're talking about Brianna Chicken Fry, told Dave Portnoy at the Super Bowl, which is February 3rd, I think, or February 8th, that you guys were a thing. Kyle said, there's only two weeks between when we split and Super Bowl, so somehow.

One of your close friends thought that you two were an item in a two week period. Amanda said, yeah, we were hanging out.

Kelli (17:07.64)
Yeah, but that's not necessarily okay, so Super Bowl was February eighth, okay? So if she announced their separation on January first, that's five weeks. That's not two weeks, that's five weeks.

Wendy (17:13.304)
February 8th,

Wendy (17:19.532)
It wasn't January 1st, it was January 16th.

Kelli (17:23.646)
She said she decided to leave him. She made the decision on January first. So even though we weren't aware of it, Kyle was aware of it. So it was five weeks from the time she told him I'm done. Just because she didn't announce it to the rest of us, I mean, it's really not our business.

Wendy (17:27.232)
Right, but the stick... Right.

Wendy (17:40.217)
think no, no, no. She said that was the she said that was the breaking point. She didn't even announce it to Kyle because and this is one of the things that I think Kyle's talking about on the people interview because I've heard him talk about this. So and I think that this is kind of where it's so murky. She sent him a statement. Now if she made the decision on January 1st is what she told us right. And then she waited for for.

Kelli (18:09.262)
Everybody to get back into the office.

Wendy (18:09.526)
She wanted to call the, right. Well, why did that take until the 16th? Because then Kyle said, it didn't. That's what I'm saying to you. That's not when, that's when she made the decision in her mind, but that's not when she acted on the decision in her mind. Because then Kyle said, you sent me this statement and you said, we gotta get it out. We gotta get it out. And what he also said is the first statement, the first attempt at a statement she sent me, I read it and I sent it to my mom and she's like, there's not like, you guys.

Kelli (18:14.498)
Think it did.

Wendy (18:38.922)
You're not getting, you're not getting back together. You're separating, you're divorcing.

Kelli (18:43.534)
I mean, he really had to send it to his mom because she's an English teacher. He couldn't figure that out on his own. This is the guy who's running Loverboy, everyone. This is the guy.

Wendy (18:50.734)
I mean, I don't know. would say...

I listen, his emotions are in play. Like, I would send it to my mom too. would, you know, I don't think that's a bad thing. I mean, it's better than using chat GBT.

Kelli (19:04.984)
We did.

Wendy (19:06.414)
Is mom?

Kelli (19:09.078)
No, Amanda. Maybe that's why he needed his mom to figure it out 'cause she used Chat G B T.

Wendy (19:15.046)
but what i think and you know this is one of the things that have been going around online is that she wanted that statement out that they were separating at that time because that's when i think the videos were surfacing

Kelli (19:33.302)
Wasn't he at the Super Bowl with Sierra?

Wendy (19:37.315)
Who?

Kelli (19:38.114)
West I thought he was at the Super Bowl with Sierra.

Wendy (19:40.163)
He

Wendy (19:44.779)
He was not at the Super Bowl with Amanda. I don't know who he was with. I don't know. No, wait. think, wasn't it with Jessie? Wasn't it Jessie? Because didn't, anyway. The other thing is Kyle said, then all of a sudden, I think this is when, remember she said like the videos are starting to surface?

Kelli (19:52.28)
Pretty sure he was there with Sierra. I'm pretty sure it was Sierra.

Kelli (20:00.143)
Sierra was there.

Wendy (20:13.932)
Like I think this is when somebody had information on her and she wanted to get it out there because then Kyle said, of a sudden, I get an email from an attorney for her. Like she had filed after the statement was put out and after the rumors started coming out, before her statement came out with West, I get an email from an attorney.

He's like, and I didn't do anything with it at first. And then after her statement came out with West, which he didn't find out about until she texted Sierra the night before and then eight and Sierra called him right away. And then eight hours later, he found out. So Sierra found out about it before Kyle did.

She'd already started the ball rolling on getting the actual divorce. It's just like there's so much that doesn't make sense.

Kelli (21:10.776)
There's so much because I thought I thought Kyle told Andy that he and Amanda had a conversation before the statement came out. I thought he said we talked the day before.

Wendy (21:23.298)
Well, they had, she gave him the statement and said, we've got to get this approved. We have to get this statement out.

Kelli (21:27.842)
No, no, no. The statement about Harm West. I thought Kyle said

Wendy (21:31.711)
no, no, no, No, they didn't talk the day before.

Kelli (21:37.3)
I thought Kyle said that. But West was in fact at the Super Bowl with Sierra. There's pictures. They were spotted together, hanging out and sitting side by side during the festivities.

Wendy (21:46.562)
Which makes... Which...

Wendy (21:51.532)
which makes it even more effed up.

Kelli (21:53.551)
So effed up. So so effed up. Because wait a minute, when did the when did the statement come out f we're getting sidetracked here, but when did the statement come out from Amanda and West? In March or April?

Wendy (22:14.126)
March.

Kelli (22:15.382)
Okay, okay, so it was way after the Super Bowl. So Sierra would have had no idea at that point.

Wendy (22:21.994)
No. Well, no. No. She wouldn't have been there with him if she had an idea.

Kelli (22:27.808)
It is interesting that he was full on dating Miha. Yeah, he was at the Super Bowl with Sierra and he was canoodling with Amanda. I mean this guy. This guy.

Wendy (22:36.75)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (22:41.934)
Hmm.

Wendy (22:44.654)
So Amanda said in that moment, no Mia said, have a question, I have a question really quick Amanda and Wes, did you honestly just come forward because you guys saw there was so much speculation or were you gonna continue to lie to us? And Amanda said to be honest, in that moment we came forward because of the speculation and I was still trying to understand and figure out like including the Mija situation. Well, that's crazy. Right, right.

Kelli (23:07.436)
Right. So Sierra never even crossed your mind. Sierra never crossed your mind, which is wild. Did you see the d so I don't know if this was only on Peacock, but did you see where Andy asked Amanda, were you and Sierra just show friends?

Wendy (23:24.962)
no, I didn't see that.

Kelli (23:26.156)
Yeah, it was very quick, but she's like she like so hesitates before she answers. And she's like, No, no. I you know, it was we were more than show friends. We had a true friendship. But like she totally hesitated and she answered in that odd voice she had this whole reunion. And slow, slow.

Wendy (23:49.731)
Yeah, definitely slow. Amanda said again, I know that I F'd it up. I know I didn't handle it right in that moment. That's all I could understand how to do. Again, I'm sorry for lying to you, Sierra.

Kelli (24:05.282)
You know, first of all, again, no remorse. Second of all

It went on so long. You lied for so long. You denied it for so long. You made people think they were crazy for so long. It's really it's just inexcusable. Like no mat you can say you're sorry until you're blue in the face, but it it it was just too long of a period of time that you were trying to figure it out. You if you were gonna mess around with s with with West, you should have known already.

Wendy (24:20.622)
Mm-hmm.

Get down. Yeah.

Kelli (24:39.88)
I am in love with this person. I cannot control my feelings anymore. Not just testing the waters, you know, at the expense of Kyle and Sierra. Because I, you know, I do I do feel bad for Kyle. I do think he was a shitty husband. I'll die on that hill. But I do feel bad that this was one of his best friends. I mean, you know, show best friends, but but a a real life friendship nonetheless. You know.

Wendy (25:07.276)
Yeah, no, I think that they had a real life friendship. mean, like he said, he went, you know, he met his daddy, like he's hung out with him when there was no cameras. Like that's a real friendship. I think that's a real friendship.

Kelli (25:14.134)
Yeah. Sure. I feel like you needed to know that you were in love and this was just something that you couldn't do, you know, you couldn't not do. You were so in love with that before you hurt people, the way you hurt people, and not only Sierra and Kyle, mostly Sierra and Kyle, but everybody else. Poor Jesse. Sat on Watch What Happens Live after the reunion. He went home and cried some more.

Wendy (25:40.717)
Yeah. Yeah. And Andy said to Wes, I'm assuming there are other girls that you were hanging out with during that time. And Wes said, yes. And he said, did Miha know you were with other women? And Wes said, I obviously wasn't the clearest. I told her it was not an exclusive relationship in November or December. And Sierra's like, you're lying because you sent her flowers on Valentine's Day. Does the lying stop?

And she's right.

Kelli (26:11.512)
So right. Meanwhile she was with he was with her at the Super Bowl. Like I mean maybe Miha knew that, but I don't I mean Sierra didn't know about Mi well it I guess they were just hanging out at the Super Bowl, so what do I know?

Wendy (26:20.621)
Well,

Wendy (26:26.092)
Right. Well then, Wes said, I've been not clear with the zillion women that I've dated prior to this. You think?

Kelli (26:35.138)
Yeah, like y thanks, Captain Obvious. You know and I liked what Sierra said. Like you have to admit to all of this because the internet will go crazy on you because all these girls will come out and be like, the F you were monogamous.

Wendy (26:50.498)
Right. Kyle said, do you understand that that's a little concerning because I still care for her? Kyle said, you were exclusive with Mihai. Kyle said, no, she thought we were. Did she? And Amanda, once again, just sitting there, stone-faced, just like sitting there. And he said, how do know Kyle and Ciara? They said, I've talked to her.

Andy's confused, like how do they have all this information? And I've talked to this woman and they built like, yeah, and Andy said, so you were dating her and she thought you were exclusive but you were seeing other women. Kyle said, yeah, 14 months.

And then Wes said, correct.

Kelli (27:39.298)
I mean Amanda, run. What are you doing? You forget ab forget about Sierra now. You screwed that up. That's never gonna go back. But what are you doing? I mean you're jumping out of the pan into the f wait, jumping out of the pot into the frying pan? Whatever. You know what I mean. You go from one bad situation to a next.

Wendy (27:55.471)
out of the pan into the fire. I think it's out of the pan into the fire. Andy asked Amanda, it give you cause for pause with Wes saying that he was seeing this woman and telling her that he loved her and that they thought that they were, she thought that they were exclusive. And, Sierra said, and sending her flowers on Valentine's day and flying her out to Bozeman.

Kelli (27:59.811)
Yeah. I mean come on. What are you doing?

Wendy (28:24.11)
for a game with your dad.

Kelli (28:29.71)
Crazy.

Wendy (28:31.758)
Amanda said, I had some of this information, but not all of it. And Andy said, well, doesn't it worry you, like, that he sent her flowers on Valentine's Day? She's like, well, there was nothing really going on between us then.

Kelli (28:44.152)
But it was but it was three days later.

Wendy (28:48.514)
Well, Valentine's Day, right, well, not three days later.

Kelli (28:48.824)
They're try right, they're is February fourteenth and weren't they saying like mid February, mid to late February is when things really started up.

Wendy (29:02.008)
So Andy said, is anyone else?

Kelli (29:02.09)
I want to know, like, did West call this Miha and be well, maybe we'll find out next week when she's talking to Sierra. Like, did he call her and say, like, we're not, you know, I don't we're I don't want to see you anymore. I can't see you anymore. Like, did that conversation happen or did he just ghost her after 14 months? Because could you imagine being his age and seeing somebody for 14 months and stringing them along and then just ghosting them like that? Like, by the way, West has a podcast.

Wendy (29:07.949)
we're definitely gonna find out.

Wendy (29:27.288)
to imagine.

Kelli (29:31.146)
And he was mute during this whole reunion and he's talking a lot on his podcast. I wouldn't you couldn't pay me to listen to that podcast. You'd probably see me listen to Teresa Judece's podcast before I listen to a West podcast. But he's talking a lot on this podcast. He's got a lot to say, but didn't the day of the reunion because he knew he'd get eaten alive.

Wendy (29:31.384)
I know.

Wendy (29:54.358)
Yeah.

Kelli (29:55.927)
And who is his co host? Have more respect for yourself, sweetheart. Get out of there. Yes, it's a female.

Wendy (30:00.514)
He has a co-host? he has a co-host? I didn't know that. I know he has a podcast, but I've never listened to it. okay. Andy asked if anyone else met Miha and Ben and Jesse said they did. And that was on April 14th, 2026. She said she thought that she was in an exclusive relationship. Like she thought she was.

Kelli (30:05.132)
I saw the picture.

Wendy (30:29.314)
But West explained it or they, they didn't think, according to Jesse and Ben, they didn't think that West was in an exclusive relationship with Miha, which if they met her.

Kelli (30:42.472)
No, because they saw him screwing around with other people. But Jesse said now looking at it from the outside, he must have been telling her that they were exclusive.

Wendy (30:45.581)
Right.

Wendy (30:53.878)
Right. So then Wes said, yes, she thought we were in an exclusive relationship and Amanda looked over at him and her eyes bugged out a little. That was the first actually reaction I saw from her. And it was only her eyes. was just like, I was like, got a reaction.

Kelli (31:04.652)
Yes. Totally agree.

Kelli (31:10.21)
Yep. Yep. Yep.

Wendy (31:14.354)
Wendy (31:18.136)
Jesse said he met in October when they went to Montana and he was, he always thought that him and me were not exclusive. Jesse said, what it feels like now is that you probably told her that this is all for the show, which I think that's probably what he did. Like I have to, you know, I can't let anyone know we're exclusive because then, you know.

Kelli (31:38.412)
Right. So we're so you and I are boyfriend, girlfriend, you're my girlfriend, you're my girlfriend, you're my girlfriend. But own that's only between you and I because of the show I can't like what?

Wendy (31:55.855)
So then Jesse's crying and says, I'm not that person in this situation that needs the sympathy. Like I feel for Sierra and Kyle, but like the lie, I'm really upset that the sanctity of this friendship, this friend group feels broken. It's not even just my friendship with you, it's the whole group you effed up, right? And he said, I would have never expected this from you and I'm sad about it.

And then Wes said, you know, I apologize, Jessie. And Andy said, Wes, you said at the Apres Ski Party that you weren't looking to be anyone's boyfriend. And Andy says, since the two of you have expressed your feelings for each other, have the two of you been monogamous?

Wes, have you been monogat... He then he had to repeat it. Have you been monogamous to Amanda since you expressed feelings? Wes said, not since we've expressed feelings, but since the statement, yes.

Kelli (32:57.336)
Yeah, since I'm gonna be held accountable because people are gonna be watching me because now they know I'm with Amanda, yes, now I've been monogamous. But up until then I was swinging my big D around New York and wherever else I could.

Wendy (32:59.138)
The statement.

Wendy (33:12.524)
or we don't even know if it's a big D. You're swinging your D.

Kelli (33:15.522)
Yeah, we well, actually from fr my flaccid D around New York.

Wendy (33:19.98)
Yes.

Kelli (33:25.708)
This isn't the part where Jesse says the thing about his a friend, right? This is that comes up later, yeah.

Wendy (33:25.976)
Then a viewer asks.

No, Yeah. A viewer asks West, there's a lot of pressure on you to make things work with you and Amanda, and you need to make this work with Amanda ASAP. You need to either marry her or get her pregnant. I don't know if you notice this, but whenever these tough questions went to West, the first thing he would do is cough. He coughs. Andy says, do you feel pressure to make... And also, Andy also always has to repeat the question to him.

Kelli (33:54.37)
Right. Right.

Wendy (33:55.449)
Do you feel pressure to make things work? He's like, yeah, I do. Like, I don't think that...

They should be, like, I don't think that should be why we make this work, but like in the moment, like, I feel like, yeah, I'm not making it work because I feel pressure to, but you know, yes, we need to make this work.

Kelli (34:17.752)
He said he's committed. He's committed to this whatever it is.

Wendy (34:19.789)
Yes.

Right, because Andy says, know, seems, you know, it seems dangerous for someone with very clear commitment issues. said, yeah, I would agree.

Kelli (34:31.758)
It's like he's talking about a different person, not himself. Right?

Wendy (34:36.632)
I know, I know, it's crazy.

Kelli (34:40.15)
It's really crazy.

Wendy (34:43.82)
This is like, this is why I think Kyle is so upset because, you know, he goes on, you you and I were really close friends and learning about what's been going on, like in the relationship, Kyle has admitted that he was, you know, a bad husband. He was, you know, not great to Amanda, but that also means that Wes knew exactly how vulnerable she was. And he totally took advantage of it. He totally took advantage of it.

Not that Amanda's innocent, but honestly, I don't think Amanda has the mental capacity to even make these good choices.

Kelli (35:21.016)
You know, I was thinking about this. You know, West is obviously a rebound, right? For her. and you go you go hard in on the rebounds. You go really hard in on the rebounds. And I was with somebody for seven years and almost got married. And, you know, so it took me a while to like get to the point where I even wanted to talk to somebody else. And the first guy I talked to, I was like, this is it. Okay, great. I'm gonna date him now. Like

Wendy (35:49.678)
Kelli (35:50.509)
It was clearly a rebound. It did not last at all. but I I r I think that's what's I do again, not trying to defend Amanda, but I do think that West is manipulating the situation and I think that Amanda's just falling for it. And it's a guy she was already friends with. She's super comfortable for him. He's gassing her up and you know, he's

Wendy (36:04.364)
Definitely, definitely.

Kelli (36:18.946)
being sweet and caring and kind and all the things Kyle wasn't.

Wendy (36:19.694)
Yeah.

Wendy (36:24.834)
Yeah. Then the next thing Kyle says, and to quote you on Andy, he said, yeah, I'm going to show her the streets. West coughs again.

Kyle says, deciding to make that move, to pursue those feelings, you essentially completely isolated her. Like she's kind of alone on an island and West is sitting there nodding his head yes.

Kelli (36:50.356)
She is. He's not wrong.

Wendy (36:52.48)
I know, I honestly have to ask you, what is your plan for Amanda and is it gonna be worth it because I'd like to think that you care about her.

And Wes says, well, part of our conversation is weighing in on how much this could F up friendships. That's why I wish more than anything that we could have spoken to each other before any of this shit got carried away. Well, why couldn't you? Right. Right. And that's what Kyle said. That's when you were already in my business. That's when you were inserting yourself in my marriage. I was texting you early February, not knowing.

Kelli (37:13.273)
f what five weeks wasn't long enough exactly. Why couldn't you?

Wendy (37:27.906)
that you were in Miami on a dinner date with her and talking about my sex life or lack thereof. And Kyle said, do you understand how big of a fool I feel? And Wes says, yeah, totally.

Kelli (37:41.976)
Yep, that's it. Yep. S that's so gross, like

Wendy (37:44.076)
And then Wes says, that wasn't anything romantic. That wasn't anything romantic at that time. And Jesse's like, well then why wasn't I invited?

I don't know. You and I had dinner plans the next life. Yeah, I should have invited you. Come on.

Kelli (38:01.123)
Yeah. It's it it gets worse and worse the more the comes out. Worse and worse and worse for a as far as West. And Amanda's just alone for the ride. And Kyle's right, she is alone.

Wendy (38:03.048)
He just...

Wendy (38:18.734)
So then Wes says, you know, that this got so out of my control. told, I totally regret not speaking to you about it first. Andy said, this was so in your control. It absolutely was.

Kelli (38:29.72)
You control the whole fucking thing. You control the whole thing.

You made the first move. You said to her, Am I crazy or is this something? I mean, I'm not saying nothing would have happened if he didn't say that or do the you know, but he he initiated everything.

Wendy (38:35.96)
series.

Wendy (38:47.425)
Yeah.

Kelli (38:48.578)
She probably, you know, could have stayed somewhat clear minded about how badly this would have affected her friendship with Sierra. Like even if she thought if she if it if it weren't for him prompting it, she would have like, whoa, you know what? Maybe I take a step back from hanging out with West.

Wendy (39:08.364)
Yeah. I mean, Andy says, the reason this is such a betrayal is because of all the scenes we see of Ciara trying to help you get out of your bad relationship. And Amanda says, I did a really shitty thing. And Ciara's like, well, you're still doing a really shitty thing. And Andy said, well, what do you have to say about it? And she's like,

In regards to what?

Kelli (39:38.542)
It was almost like Dari on her reunion. Like, apologize for what, Andy?

Wendy (39:45.455)
Yeah, exactly, exactly. Amanda said, this has been a crazy confusing time. I've sorted through, I've developed feelings for someone that I wasn't supposed to the way that I wasn't expecting to. Again, there was times I lost sleep. didn't eat thinking about what this was gonna do to our friendship, referring to Sierra. Even the fact that these feelings existed, I effed up, I'm deeply sorry, betraying your trust. It kills me to know that I've caused you this pain. But again, she's saying all of it.

without emotion. Like she's saying it's stone, stone faced.

Kelli (40:23.33)
Yeah, I the the the lack of emotion and the way she was talking and just because I feel like when it when when it first the first part of the reunion, she was very defensive and she was saying things and she was sticking up for herself. And then by the end, I don't know if she was just exhausted or if maybe she took a Xanax or something during the break.

Wendy (40:51.821)
Yeah.

Kelli (40:52.534)
I mean, maybe she was just exhausted. And listen, if she did take a Xanax, I can't say that I blame her because I I don't know if I could have handled all that heat either. Sh the heat she brought on herself, for sure, self inflicted heat, but w somebody with mental health issues is is could possibly need something to help her get through the rest of that day. That's a long day.

Wendy (41:20.034)
Yeah. And then the next thing, Sierra says, which is again, like, this is so heartbreaking. she says, you didn't even text me. Well, I mean, you texted me 24 hours before your statement, finally admitting it. I'm calling Kyle, like, what the F did I do to you? And then Lindsay has to come pick me up off the bathroom floor. Cause I can't, cause I can't do my F job because I couldn't fathom that I would be sitting right here today. Piss that you're F my X. I was like,

Kelli (41:50.127)
I know that was heartbreaking to hear. That really was. And goes to show what a good friend Lindsay is. Cause there were no cameras. Nobody knew what was going on. And Lindsay was the one who went. I'm sure other people would have if asked, but Lindsay showed up.

Wendy (41:57.891)
Yeah, definitely.

Wendy (42:08.802)
Yeah, definitely. And like I said, that's why Kyle didn't know about it. I think maybe on the people that he says it, he did not know about it until he found out first from Ciara and then eight hours later, she texted him, which is crazy.

And then she goes on to say, which is so true.

If anything, you'd be like, wants revenge against Sierra because he resents her so much that, like, did that ever cross your mind? Because he wants to embarrass me, meaning Sierra. He wants to get his little last word, and this is his last little word, and I hope it works. He's with you to spite me. Like that, you know, I don't.

Kelli (43:01.398)
I don't necessarily agree with that and and God bless Diara. I think I don't think she was a thought on on West's mind at all.

Wendy (43:03.703)
I don't- I-

Wendy (43:09.774)
No, I don't either. I don't either.

Kelli (43:13.216)
And I feel bad saying that because, you know, that's hurtful for her. But I don't I don't agree with that. I think I think he's an opportunist. And like they said last week, like they that he knew she was gonna have a lot of attention coming her way with leaving her marriage. And he was like, She's gonna get she's gonna be all over the internet, people are gonna love her, so I'm gonna be all over the internet and people are gonna love me. And boy did that backfire.

Wendy (43:42.573)
Yeah.

Kelli (43:42.83)
And you dragged her right down that hole with you.

Wendy (43:47.883)
Andy then asked Sierra which scenes have been the most difficult for you to watch and she said, think, you know, she's crying when she's, I think it was the last episode watching me and Amanda say goodbye to each other and me telling her how much I love her, how special she is, how beautiful she is, she's seen, she deserves the best. You know, it kind of F me up a little bit. And.

And Amanda is sitting there the whole time, stone cold face. Jesse throws his head back. KJ looks disgusted. Carl has his head down. Like I'm watching all the reactions. And Darryl also looks disgusted. And then Andy.

Kelli (44:23.245)
Yeah.

Kelli (44:27.928)
She did. She did look disgusted a lot when West was talking or they were talking about things with West. Like you could see it on her face, but her dissertation on him the second, you know, part of the reunion was spot on.

Wendy (44:32.407)
Yeah.

Wendy (44:42.678)
Yes, it was.

Wendy (44:47.278)
Andy said to see her at the final weekend, seemed instrumental in pushing Amanda to do something about her relationship ending. Do you regret that now? She said, no, because at the time my friend was unhappy and I wanted her to be happy. wanted her to feel a sense of relief and be able to exhale. It made me sad to see a woman not believing in herself, not thinking that she was worth anything.

She's like, I don't know, I've never seen that type of relationship in my life. Like I've also never seen a healthy marriage in my life. I've seen a woman who had to fight tooth and nail to support her two kids. Her mom passed away early and so she had to figure things out of herself. She had to work three jobs to support her kids. And Andy says to Amanda, what's your response to that?

I've been extremely appreciative of everything Sarah has done for me. I've been there... She's been there for me throughout the years. I know I've fucked up.

Wendy (45:47.831)
Again, no emotion. I will walk away from this set today doing a lot of thinking and a lot of reflecting, maybe just spending a lot of time just thinking about me. know, Lindsay said, what did you think was gonna happen? That's where I'm getting real confused. I mean, it's like, I don't know. Sierra's knowing, how do you not know what this is gonna do to your friendship? And that's the whole thing. How do you not know?

Kelli (45:50.294)
Yeah.

Kelli (46:10.188)
Yeah, like knowing who Sierra is, knowing what she's been through with West, knowing the conversation she brought to the house, basically saying, like a woman of color going through this on national television brings a lot of heat, a lot of comments, letting a white guy play you like that on national like we all saw it. We all saw it. And and you just stuck the knife in and twisted.

Wendy (46:30.86)
Yep. Now let it go. Let it happen.

Wendy (46:39.128)
This is where Jesse's sitting there and he's really crying and Andy says, Jesse, what's going through your mind? And he's like, I didn't expect this to get this emotional. Based on what I've heard, I feel like I'm losing a brother. I hope that somehow you can improve and prove us wrong, but it doesn't look good. Now, mm-hmm.

Kelli (46:58.168)
So before that on Peacock, he says that one of his best friends hooked up with his ex and lied about it for months. So he knows what it feels like. So I don't I don't know if it was Carl or Lindsay. Somebody said it happened this summer and it went on for months. The lying call yeah, it went on for months. I mean, that broke my heart for him.

Wendy (47:18.616)
Chora.

Wendy (47:26.892)
Yeah, and I don't know why they didn't show that on, like that should have been on there. It really is such an important piece. That should have been on there.

Kelli (47:30.356)
Me neither. It's such an important piece.

Kelli (47:37.494)
I mean meanwhile you're just showing him crying and crying over and over again, like show why. That's why. Not that I don't think he would have cried, you know, been emotional anyway, but obviously that's it's like PTSD.

Wendy (47:44.14)
I mean, listen, right.

Wendy (47:51.385)
But you know what it makes? It makes West's response even sound that much worse now that we know the whole story. says, what West, what's your reaction to that? He's like, effing hate that. And obviously Jesse and I are incredibly close and hearing him say that it doesn't look good is devastating.

Okay.

Kelli (48:09.4)
What the hell did you think? Like what did you think?

Wendy (48:14.126)
You're right.

And that's when Andy asks, you know, no offense, but are you on a bunch of beta blockers? Everyone's so emotional around you. And he wasn't going to admit to it first because then Jesse says, like, Jesse says, are you on beta blockers? And he's like, I did take a beta block. He wasn't going to admit to it.

Kelli (48:25.378)
No, he wasn't.

Kelli (48:32.044)
No, he wasn't at all.

Wendy (48:38.622)
Andy asks Amanda, was it worth it? And Bailey's on the other couch saying, please say no, please say no, please say no.

Kelli (48:47.522)
And she did not.

Wendy (48:51.95)
Andy said, let me ask you very clearly, are you two in love?

There was like a pause. West and Amanda said, we're not using the word love right now. It's too early. It's been two to three months.

Kelli (49:11.884)
I think Eric and I said that in two months for sure.

Wendy (49:15.714)
What you don't blow up your whole world if you're not in love. Right? Like you don't blow up your whole, you don't. Weston, I'm very much.

Kelli (49:18.786)
That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. Exactly.

What you did to this group, what you did to Kyle and Sierra, like you don't do that because you're trying to figure out feelings.

Wendy (49:35.66)
Wes said, I'm very much committed to this relationship. Carl then, which I love, says to Amanda, and you still want to be with him after you've seen all his behavior. He's hooking up with four different girls and your former best friend. That's effing crazy. Amanda said, I hear you.

Kelli (49:50.55)
Mm-hmm. That's it.

Wendy (49:52.812)
I hear you, but I went to Italy with him.

Kelli (49:55.385)
That's right. She didn't take any time to reflect and spend by herself. She should have sent his ass to Italy and been like, you know what, I need to take a beat. I'm gonna stay here, you go there, and you know, we'll figure it out when we get back.

Wendy (50:13.056)
Andy then asked Wes, do you think you're going be able to give Amanda what she needs in a partner? He's like, I'm committed in making the effort to do it. I know that my history doesn't show that.

Kelli (50:22.552)
So he's not saying yes, he's saying he's committed to trying. He's gonna try.

Wendy (50:29.698)
But then he goes on to say, if Amanda and I can get back to what our early days were, those were very special days. Andy said your early days, you mean six weeks ago? It's so true.

Kelli (50:40.874)
Lindsay's response was the honeymoon phase? This guy. She's like, not this one. Come on. Lindsay, I think at this point was very tipsy. Especially when they come back for a break, from break. That was the best. And she's got her glass of wine in her hand and she's ready for it.

Wendy (50:44.75)
I

Wendy (50:54.53)
mean.

Wendy (51:02.828)
Right, right, because her and me are in the back talking, she's like, I cannot believe we would hear for 10 hours and I still don't have any clarity.

Kelli (51:08.952)
Right. And they're like, We know less than we did coming in today.

Wendy (51:16.12)
So they come back in and Kyle's talking to saying, know, knowing that you don't have a plan for you and Amanda, it's like, or even just all of us, then he starts to walk away and Amanda comes in and she goes up and she hugs Kyle. Like that was a real hug. And Kyle is sitting there sobbing, know, while he's hugging Amanda and Wes gets up and like looks uncomfortable and just kind of like walks.

Kelli (51:44.12)
He didn't know what to do.

Wendy (51:45.687)
Right. And Kyle said to her, and I think that this is one of the things that really bothers him the most, I hate when our 10 year relationship gets talked about like it was 100 % bad, like there weren't any good times. I could, listen, that's hurtful. I get that. They had to have good times. There had to be good times.

Kelli (52:02.518)
No, I get it too. It's it's just a shame that he was responsible for ms mo all of the mistakes, I'm just gonna say it, in their relationship throughout that ten years, like while they were dating, while they were engaged, while they were married. It was his faults that are making people feel this way. Like she really didn't do you know, I mean, withholding affection and stuff like that, sure.

Wendy (52:28.91)
don't agree with that. I don't agree with that. I mean, I think that that's a lot. I think that that is a lot. Like, if they're not intimate...

Kelli (52:36.216)
But I just don't think that it was always like that. Like maybe yeah, the last four years it was like that because she had had enough. But you know, we we've had we've beaten that conversation to death, you and I. We just don't see it the same way.

Wendy (52:45.338)
Right. Yeah. I don't think it's 100 % Kyle's fault. I'm just going to say that. It takes two. So then they come back and Lindsay comes back to the couch and she's like, Andy, I didn't learn anything. Andy's like, so what are you talking about? She's like, I feel like there's still not a lot of clarity. He said, so, wait.

Kelli (53:04.568)
Did you see Amanda glaring at her when she was saying that? Amanda was like glaring at her.

Wendy (53:08.171)
No, I didn't. missed that.

Wendy (53:13.979)
and then he's like, all right, do want me to start from the beginning? And he pulls up the stack of cards.

Kelli (53:20.342)
Ha ha ha.

Wendy (53:23.145)
Kelli (53:23.758)
He kinda lets her take over though.

Wendy (53:26.188)
Well, he does a little bit, he does.

I mean, she goes on to say, let's say.

Wendy (53:37.707)
She says, guys said you weighed out all these options before making the decision and that you know this doesn't affect just the four of you. Like look at everyone here. Like they're a mess. This affects all of us. I'm looking at you West because you're the manipulator. Kyle said also he made the first move. You were not looking, you were not looking this through the effects of the future of our friend group. It affects people's livelihoods, their careers. Lindsay said that today's the day you just thought.

about it and it's very short, like today's the day, okay, for an effing hookup. The entire day has been overshadowed about all of this. All we wanted to do is get clarity and you guys came to the table without giving us any clarity. Like you kept saying, oh, there's a lot to think about. There's a lot to think about, but you never answered anything.

Wendy (54:31.554)
Kelli (54:36.736)
And after Lindsay says everything, right? And after Lindsay says that like this is like our livelihood, our careers, Amanda just sits back and says, I have a lot to think about. That was her response. That was her robotic, slow talking response.

Wendy (54:37.067)
Andy asked Kyle.

Wendy (54:44.354)
Right.

Wendy (54:50.466)
Right. Yeah. that's right. That's. was. That was her response to almost everything. And then Andy asked Kyle, what is moving forward look like for you? It's clear I've been watching you during the breaks. I watched you and Amanda get, you know, got up and you still love her. You still care about her. Like, how do you navigate the future? He's like, I've I've had to make a big effort, you know, just to be at peace. Like, no one cares about my side. And that's fine. Like, let's just have an amicable.

Kelli (54:58.414)
Mm-hmm.

Wendy (55:19.714)
breakup. Like, we don't want her friends to have to choose sides, the audience to have to choose sides. And I do think that that still is his goal. He does just want to have an amicable breakup. He said on the People interview that, you know, luckily they never, you know, although they didn't have her prenup, they never co-mingled funds. Like, she had her own accounts. He had his own accounts, which would explain why he was able to give her the bill.

Kelli (55:27.341)
Yeah.

Kelli (55:39.224)
Wow.

That was smart.

Wendy (55:49.838)
for the rent that she never paid, right?

Kelli (55:51.03)
Right. Right. Yeah.

Wendy (55:54.639)
Kyle said, Andy, you know what? I don't know where to go from here. I really don't know.

Kelli (56:03.616)
I mean, I really think it's I obviously nobody thinks it's gonna last between she and West. I think that that's gonna end very soon. And I think that she's gonna be able to have a friendship with Kyle. and West is gonna be banished as he should. Maybe we'll see him on I he's he's not even good enough for traders. He'll be on the other one that villains. Yeah.

Wendy (56:04.098)
That was.

Wendy (56:25.132)
I think so too.

Wendy (56:30.542)
Villains, House of Villains. So Andy also does bring up about the $160,000 that were raised for the Girl Scout Troop, 6,000, with the Carl's and Mess t-shirt merch, which is amazing. And then they, instead of doing a cheers, they're gonna bring out Girl Scout cookies. And I don't know if you caught this, but they hand out the Girl Scout cookies and Wes goes to eat his and...

Kelli (56:48.248)
So good.

Wendy (56:59.886)
Something Amanda says, don't eat yours yet, we're gonna cheers.

Kelli (57:03.502)
Yeah, but Jesse had already eaten his. Mm Mark. Andy already took a bite out of his. I don't know why she said that to him. I totally agree with you. Like, is this just who she is in a relationship? I totally agree with you there. Cause I'm like, wait a minute, we just saw Jesse popped that shit right in his mouth as soon as he took it. Andy was holding his, and you could see he had already taken a bite of his.

Wendy (57:10.998)
I know, but the fact that she's even telling him what to do.

Wendy (57:19.744)
Right, right, right, right.

Kelli (57:32.758)
So what's so let let eat the cookie.

Wendy (57:33.004)
Right. Like you say nothing, you say nothing this whole reunion and you tell him don't eat yours and he's just like, okay. It's pathetic. It's just pathetic. The whole thing is pathetic.

Kelli (57:41.196)
Yeah, like he stops like a like yeah.

Kelli (57:47.232)
Yeah.

So another thing that was on Peacock that was not on wait, did we talk did I say this? Did we talk about this? Andy s asked Amanda at some point, did you say to West at the Yankees game, act like you like me? And she said yes, but it was part of a bigger conversation. Like that was just like one thing. It was a bigger conversation that we were having. So I don't know what the hell that means, but she did say it. I mean, you c you can't deny it.

Your your lips are literally, you know, saying it, mouthing it. So she did admit to that. But yeah, so I mean and then the cookie thing, it's like so maybe that's just who she is in a relationship. Like, don't do this, do that.

Wendy (58:20.246)
Right. Right.

Wendy (58:35.192)
Right. And Kyle, listen, I think that Kyle was beat down. He never felt validated. He never felt like he could do anything right. I don't know.

Kelli (58:45.782)
Yeah, I know. Clearly they both they were both guilty and both contributed to the end of that relationship.

Wendy (58:55.374)
So at the end of the reunion, we get to see we're getting another episode. This could not make me any happier. It is going to be a bonus episode. It's going to be Lindsay and Amanda sitting down on the couch and talking, Kyle and West sitting down and talking, and Miha and Sierra sitting down and talking. And the little teasers of it we got already, I cannot wait. I can't wait.

Kelli (59:24.236)
Yeah, so I feel like it's like so overproduced, but you know, whatever. It is what it is. Hopefully we'll I don't know, hopefully we'll learn a little bit more, but I do we even need to learn anything more? Like it just is what it is. Now let let them go off and be together and see what happens. Like do we really need a bonus episode?

Wendy (59:45.571)
I don't know, that's the other thing Kyle said about the two and a half hour sit down he had with West is that he didn't even really learn anything. He didn't even get his questions answered. But I do want to see Miha, and I hope that maybe this parlays to a Bravo career for her.

Kelli (59:53.57)
That's what I mean.

Kelli (01:00:03.03)
Maybe. Good call. That would be great, right? If she takes over, like if they get rid of West and then she takes over. yeah, I don't I don't know. I mean, whatever. That's Bravo's, you know, formula pick up picking up the cameras. But we whatever we do see Lindsay say to Amanda that he said you were obsessed with him. We're assuming she's talking about West, but so whatever Lindsay said to Amanda in that conversation.

Wendy (01:00:04.278)
Right? Yeah.

Kelli (01:00:29.91)
We already know it didn't sink in because she's in Italy with or was in Italy with I think they're still there, aren't they?

Wendy (01:00:33.676)
Right. Right. I don't know if they're back or not. And you know what? I don't even really care.

Kelli (01:00:39.99)
I don't care either. They're gonna get heckled on the streets of MYC.

Wendy (01:00:41.932)
Right? We don't care.

Wendy (01:00:46.178)
Oof. by the way, go Knicks. It's Wednesday. We're recording this on Wednesday. Go Knicks. Knicks in five, Knicks in five.

Kelli (01:00:50.488)
Go next. Yep. Go next.

Be, gotta be. Yes. Would have been nice to be there, but I don't have eight grand laying around for a ticket. Nobody I know. Well.

Wendy (01:00:58.691)
Yeah.

Wendy (01:01:05.576)
Yeah, and who does? And honestly, the logistics of even getting there? No, thank you. I'm sorry. We are too old for that.

Kelli (01:01:16.622)
Totally, totally agree. Totally agree. I w you couldn't pay me to be in the city right now.

Wendy (01:01:24.29)
Well, depends how much. You may be able to pay me.

Kelli (01:01:26.424)
that's true. I keep saying you couldn't pay me, but there's a lot I would do for the right amount of money. So I should really stop saying that. Yeah, I'm too quick. I'm too quick to jump to that. and by the way, I got an airbrushed hand today because I'm going to a wedding on Friday. If I look extra crispy, just in case somebody wants to come at me with some comments on YouTube.

Wendy (01:01:32.526)
Let's not be rash about these things. Alright, so until-

Wendy (01:01:50.36)
Well, I think you look fabulous. You probably make me look extra, you probably make me look extra pale, a little ghostly, which is fine. It's okay. It is what it is. I am who I am, right?

Kelli (01:01:52.002)
Thank you very much. Looking forward to rinsing it off.

Sorry. Sorry. That's right. That's right. That's why we got to pay for the airbrush tan, 'cause I am too.

Wendy (01:02:07.278)
That's it. So thank you for watching and listening. Please subscribe and give us five star reviews. Bye.

Kelli (01:02:15.287)
Bye.