The Valley S3 Reunion Part 2 Lala Needs to Sit This One Out

The Valley Lala Needs to Sit This One Out

The Valley S3 Reunion Part 2

The Valley Season 3 Reunion Part 2 dives headfirst into the messy aftermath of Michelle and Jesse’s marriage, with their divorce taking center stage. Michelle celebrates finally being single while both admit that, despite everything that happened, they still communicate well when it comes to their daughter Isabella. The $300,000 loan becomes another major point of contention, with Michelle claiming Jesse put the money into his personal account and failed to contribute financially, while Jesse pushes back against the narrative that he used Michelle for her money. The discussion quickly becomes chaotic as Lala repeatedly inserts herself into the conversation, while Michelle and Jesse surprisingly agree that they still love each other and have a complicated but functional co-parenting relationship.

The reunion then shifts to the other relationships, including Schwartz and Kianna’s future, Zack and Benji’s complicated plans for children, and Kristen and Luke navigating new parenthood. Kristen opens up about postpartum depression and rage, while Luke admits that he felt lonely and unappreciated after making sacrifices for their relationship and moving to Los Angeles. Their struggles lead to some brutally honest questions about marriage, intimacy, therapy, and whether they are ready for another child. Meanwhile, Nia and Danny confront the fallout from the way Danny treated Nia during a stressful period with their children. Danny takes responsibility for his behavior, explaining that exhaustion, anxiety, and alcohol contributed to his actions, and acknowledges that he behaved horribly toward his wife.
The biggest unresolved storyline, however, is the ongoing war between the Bookos and Capernas. Jason and Danny revisit the fallout involving Jax, Janet, and Brittany, with apologies finally being exchanged as Danny reveals just how devastating the online backlash was for him, including receiving messages telling him to kill himself. Janet becomes emotional as she acknowledges what Danny went through, while Kristen also reveals that she experienced similar online harassment during her Vanderpump Rules days. Just when it seems like the reunion might actually be heading toward resolution, the conversation circles back to Danny’s behavior at Jasmine’s wedding—and suddenly everyone has questions. Brittany demands that the wedding be brought up, Jesse hints that something happened, and Lala insists that the story is far from over. The reunion ends with yet another cliffhanger, leaving us waiting to find out exactly what went down at Jasmine’s wedding.

Valley reunion, reality TV, relationships, co-parenting, financial secrets, alcohol behavior, drama analysis

Transcript

Kelli (00:00.903)
Hi, welcome to Be Wine Whenever, I'm Kelly.

Lori (00:03.5)
And I'm Lori.

Kelli (00:05.807)
And we're talking about the Valley season three reunion part two. before we start, please, if you would, please go to our YouTube and subscribe and go to our socials, Instagram, Facebook, and TikTok and follow and comment, please. We love, yeah, we love the engagement. so we open up the second episode with

Lori (00:21.368)
That would be lovely.

Kelli (00:33.657)
Andy talking about the ending of Michelle and Jesse's marriage. Michelle says it feels incredible to say she's finally single. And Jesse says they only communicate about Isabella and it's going well. And Michelle's like, Yeah, well, 90% of the time it's going well. So I you know, it's funny because I didn't think we were going to get so much about them in the reunion, but I'm happy.

Jesse says Michelle has gone, and this is true, Michelle has gone to Canyon Run in seasons two and three with people who do not hike to talk about the $300,000 loan. So first it was Sheena in season two, and then it was Lala in season three. Michelle says he's embarrassed to talk about it. And he's like, Do I look embarrassed? He said, You're a cheater and a liar. And Lala chimes in and is like, you have to stop calling her a liar. And listen, I'm

I like Michelle, but if you cheat, and I do think she cheated with that guy Aaron. I do think she was having a relationship with that guy Aaron before they were legally divorced. If you're a cheater, you are a liar. You cannot be one without being the other. Well, I guess you could be a liar without being a cheater, but you can't be a cheater without being a liar.

Lori (01:33.486)
Mm-hmm.

Lori (01:39.182)
Right.

Lori (01:45.08)
But let me ask you this.

Lori (01:50.265)
But now, how come Jesse never answered about the loan or his lack of paying for Isabella's insurance? Never answered.

Never answered. All of sudden, then the girlfriend shifted the whole conversation away.

Kelli (02:16.573)
You're right. You are right.

Lori (02:17.976)
shifted the whole conversation. He never answered. And I don't know if he noticed again, Jesse, right? That's a guy's name. What's a girlfriend's name? Lacey did it again with the hand thing.

Kelli (02:28.381)
Yeah. Lacey.

Kelli (02:34.331)
I saw that on li I d I did watch it on Peacock this time. And I saw people commenting about that online, but I didn't see it for myself. But you know when you're taking notes, you're not always looking at the T V. Yeah, that's what they were saying.

Lori (02:37.878)
Right. she did it again now. She did it again this episode. Right. Yeah. So this episode, she did it again already. So I was like, okay. Okay. And then.

Kelli (02:52.775)
Mm.

Listen.

Lori (02:57.71)
People were saying about how everybody's coming, how she's supporting Jesse, and you guys have said, she's super wealthy. She wasn't even married to that dude for a year, and she got hooked up for life?

Kelli (03:13.149)
So she doesn't get alimony, but I do think it's been spoken about that she got a very hefty settlement when they got divorced.

Lori (03:22.156)
Well, she must know something because why in the world would somebody who hasn't even been married to somebody for a whole year get such a huge settlement? That don't make no sense, girl. I don't know. I smelled something funky though.

Kelli (03:36.185)
He must be worth a lot of I don't know who her ex is and I honestly don't care. I don't care enough to use my resources to try to find out who her ex is. But he must have a lot of money.

Lori (03:49.039)
Yes, but it just smells fishy to me. Like that's like a really short timeframe. And what you married somebody, you got that much dough and you didn't get a prenup and you weren't even married for a year. Now you're giving her all this. I don't know. something right. All right. Something right. No, it's not sniffing.

Kelli (04:08.187)
It doesn't pass the sniff test. All right. So I listen, I don't think Jesse was fun to be married to and towards the end, and I don't think Michelle was fun to be married to towards the end. But Lala needs to shut the F up. Because Lala, you showed us n nothing except and please, no disrespect. All she showed us this season was her putting her dog down.

Lori (04:19.886)
No.

Kelli (04:36.199)
That's all we saw of Lala this season. Other than that, she's just chomping at the bit and talking about everybody else's shit. So honestly, Lala, shut the fuck up. I can't take it anymore. I can't take Lala anymore.

Lori (04:48.078)
There you go. Can't take it.

Kelli (04:54.225)
Michelle says Jesse took a three hundred thousand dollar I I believe it was a PPE loan from COVID and put it in his personal account now.

He is a real estate agent. You are, I believe, I believe in New Jersey, and I could be wrong, I believe you are a 1099 employee, correct?

Lori (05:15.566)
yeah, and Mauricio did the same thing, mind you.

Kelli (05:21.479)
This w what other account are you gonna put it in? You know what I'm saying? Like if you don't have an LLC, if you don't have a corporation as a realtor, as a real estate agent, I believe you're a ten ninety nine employer employee E. I don't know. I'm gonna ask. I mean, but but then again, California laws could be different than New Jersey laws.

Lori (05:37.795)
Yes.

Lori (05:43.096)
Well, like I said, all I have to say about it is he did not answer.

Kelli (05:48.049)
No, he didn't answer. You're absolutely right.

Lori (05:50.296)
So to me, again, suspect.

Kelli (05:54.48)
Mm-hmm. You're right. Andy says that Michelle said on Watch What Happens Live that she was paying all the household most of the household expenses. And Lacey cuts her cut you know, cuts in and says, You always say I'm paying for Jesse and I'd rather light myself on fire. Michelle has shown people text messages where Jesse's like, I can't pay this month. And they're all like, We've seen it.

So it it was kind of annoying to watch at this point because basically Lacey and Michelle were just talking over each other. Lacey says Jesse has never asked her for money, and the girls keep saying Jesse is using her for her money and it's misogynistic. So Andy's like, Well, how is it misogynistic? I actually looked up the definition of misogynistic just to know for myself. And it is when like men, it's it's men like

Lori (06:26.935)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (06:49.543)
Looking down on women. So I understand why Andy asked that, but Lacey said, Aaron filmed all last season and of course gets cut off by La La again, but then is able to finish. And she's like, Aaron filmed, and then, but nobody was like, he's using Michelle to be on the show. So she said, You're making it seem like I'm not worthy enough to have someone like Jesse.

Lori (06:51.534)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (07:18.107)
And I'm using him to be on the show. But Aaron filmed you know, and nobody said he was using Michelle to be on the f on the show, which quite honestly, looking back, he probably did. Cause he turned out to be a douche.

Lori (07:27.17)
Right, right.

Kelli (07:35.771)
And Lala says to Jesse and Lacey, It seems like you guys don't like each other. And Kristen's like, You don't know that or her sense of humor or their dynamic. And that's the truth. You can tell by watching them that that's just their thing.

Lori (07:51.342)
Right, it's a shtick.

Kelli (07:53.31)
Right. So just you know, Andy's like, Well tell her you love her right now and he does and she says it back. he asks Andy asks them about getting married and Lacey says she does not want to get married again and she doesn't get alimony, but she never wants to go through that again. Listen, I again I think she got a very hefty settlement from her divorce. Why would she want to get married again? She is set financially for she and her daughter.

And whoever comes along comes along. Like, you know, I don't know. To me, I mean, obviously I'm very happy that I married Eric, but God forbid anything ever happened. I don't know if I would ever get married again because to me a piece of paper just isn't that important. You know. I don't know. Jesse says he doesn't think he wants to get married again, but that's right now and he doesn't know.

Lori (08:23.693)
Right.

Lori (08:40.94)
Right. Yeah.

Kelli (08:51.857)
So Andy asks what her relationship is with Isabella and La La and Michelle cut her off again. But eventually we get to the point where Lacey's able to say, La Isabella is lovely and she is exquisite and I love her very much. But Michelle did not like that Andy asked her that question. Did you catch that?

Lori (09:11.982)
no, yeah, yeah.

Kelli (09:17.075)
you know, Andy says it was very clear when they signed the divorce papers that they really loved each other. And Michelle says when it's just the two of them, they're fine. and then Jesse, you know, says that they had Isabella a month into quarantine and things got rough after that. And and he does say, like, I didn't help with it. Like Michelle was kind of isolating herself, which a lot of people did, you know, understandable. And he may have been trying to.

still make money and go out and sell houses. And it was a very tricky situation. I mean, you know, I work for a law firm. I worked remote. My role in that firm was very easy to do for me at home in my, you know, at my in my home office.

A real estate agent, you can't it yeah, it's a very difficult career to to navigate during a quarantine for crying out loud. But it I thought it was good that he at least took responsibility and said I didn't help but

Lori (10:12.802)
Not so much, right.

Lori (10:22.338)
Right.

Kelli (10:29.383)
So finally we move on to something else, and it's Schwartzy and Kiana, and we find out they've been together for nine months. And Schwartzy says he would love to bend the knee one more time and and propose. He does want kids so bad. And she does too, but he's not sure if he wants them with him. he said they have great communication and he's grateful for everyone on the couch for being so supportive. And I thought that was lovely because

Lori (10:50.563)
He

Kelli (10:58.715)
I do believe that some or most of them are friends with his ex wife, Katie Maloney. But she's happy with somebody else as well. I mean, I'll say it again, I've said it a million times. Tom Sandoval, I think, was of huge detriment to their relationship. But who knows, maybe they wouldn't have lasted it.

TomTom is for sale. Tom Tom is a bar restaurant that Lisa Vanderpump, one of the original Real Housewives of Beverly Hills, who's no longer on the show, she owns numerous restaurants in Hollywood, Beverly Hills. She gave Tom Sandoval and Tom Schwartz the opportunity to go into business with her. They opened up a bar restaurant called TomTom. She gave them a small percentage of the company. But, you know, it was good exposure for them and

Lori (11:44.44)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Kelli (11:48.658)
Stuff, but it's for sale now. he said it's sad. and everything's up for sale, the intellectual rights included. He's made peace with it. He got he got his fifty thousand dollar initial investment back, and he still owns two point five percent. So he will get something from the sale, which is good for him. Andy moves on to Zach and Benji. How about when Andy says to Zach?

We've seen you take some big steps with your little boyfriend Benji.

Lori (12:23.36)
I know.

Kelli (12:24.943)
So o sometimes on Watch What Happens Live you can tell that Andy reads a card and then he stops and he's like, who wrote that? I think somebody wrote that for him and I don't think he was I don't think he knew he was about to say that. Cause that was rude. Uh-huh.

Lori (12:30.604)
Mm-hmm.

Lori (12:37.592)
paying attention. Mm hmm. It was rude.

Kelli (12:46.149)
Anyway. Zach says they've been living on and off you know, together like more steadily with Benji. There's still no furniture in the apartment except a dining room table and chairs.

And Zach goes into saying that being in LA has been a hard experience for him. He doesn't think he would have made it without Britney and Kristen. Kristen says that Zach has fallen into jobs where he n wouldn't necessarily get paid. And he says out of all of his friendships, he doesn't know what he would do without Britney and Kristen. And I I thought that was nice.

Lori (13:22.008)
Yeah, that's nice. It's nice for him.

Kelli (13:24.635)
Yeah. He said Benji is finally divorced. he's giving him a little leeway on kids because he loves them, but he does want to have kids, Benji. And he had given him a year, which should be up this coming January. Yeah. So Andy's like, What happens if you decide you don't want kids? And Zach really doesn't even know how to answer that. But he says, I've never been in such a stable place, but

Lori (13:40.215)
Oof.

Kelli (13:54.468)
I don't really have the lifestyle right now to support that. I get I I mean, I suppose he's talking about financially, but Benji is a doctor. So I mean, he's from Canada, so I don't know what it takes for him to be able to practice here. I don't know what kind of doctor he is, but you know.

Lori (14:00.75)
Mm-hmm.

Yes, you're good.

Lori (14:11.254)
Right, right.

Kelli (14:15.325)
So I guess they break, right? They break and then they come back and I thought it was funny. Did you see Luke, Kristen's husband, asking for powder? He's like, Do I need some more powder? Like

Lori (14:25.336)
Yeah, like you really want to get back to Colorado so you just fished. But but boy, you need the powder. was like, you drank the Kool-Aid, boy. Jank the Kool-Aid.

Kelli (14:29.092)
Hey, that's exactly what I was thinking.

Kelli (14:36.099)
Exactly. I'm like, you rough and rugged, you know, fisherman, you know, yeah. Uh-huh.

Lori (14:40.618)
Bang. You? Mm-hmm. So I want to ask you question, because we'll get into conversation. But, you know, when Andy's talking to Kristen and Luke about their situation, do you think when they're talking about therapy, do you think that they are each going to individual therapy? Or do you think that just Kristen is going to therapy and Luke's doing nothing?

Kelli (15:08.039)
So just Kristen goes to therapy, but after they had Kaya, they did try couples therapy. Luke's not into therapy. You know, some guys just don't believe in it. some people I shouldn't just say guys, some people just don't believe in therapy. Luke's one of them. So he was kind of a hard sell on the ther he went for her.

Lori (15:24.94)
my because I remember

Right, right. I remember we saw him go, but that's kind of how I took it is now she just goes to therapy. He doesn't go at all.

Kelli (15:31.985)
Yeah.

Kelli (15:38.417)
Yeah. And I think she's gone consistently probably since she was kicked off of VPR, fired off of VPR.

Lori (15:45.108)
Right, right. And that's, I don't know how that whole situation is going to work out because I don't know about him. I don't know about him because...

Kelli (15:52.549)
I do worry about them.

Lori (15:57.901)
He just seems to... There's just not a... Doesn't seem to be a lot of gray with him. And that's never good. Because shit is not black and white. You know? Not everything's black and white. And you just... I think he just had this conception of something that was not based on anything, but something in his own mind. And then when it didn't go that way, he was like, well, then that's fucked up then. Instead of being like...

Kelli (16:04.273)
Yes. Yes. Right, it not everything's black and white. I agree with you there.

Kelli (16:26.013)
Right.

Lori (16:27.202)
Well, just because I thought it was going to be this way.

So maybe it's not this way, maybe it's this way and maybe that's okay too. But there's just.

Kelli (16:37.725)
But don't you think that that kind of realization comes with maturity after having kids? Like, listen, you can you can have your birthing plan and you can have your co parenting plan and you can have all these things in place. You can have all your ducks in a row and life's like, like wrong. We're gonna you're not gonna do that. You're gonna have to do this because this is what life's gonna throw at you.

Lori (16:56.3)
Right. Right. Absolutely. But I don't, but I don't see that sinking in for him. I don't see that. I just still see it as his reaction is almost like the baby was born two months ago and this is fucked up. This is not what I thought it was going to be. It's still, I feel like he's still like that.

Kelli (17:06.833)
Mm.

Lori (17:26.03)
Like it's still, I don't know, I don't, I'm not feeling it. Yeah.

Kelli (17:26.876)
Right.

Kelli (17:31.58)
No, I hear ya. Well, we're gonna get to that, but before that, right before we get into Luke and Kristen, Lala says co-parenting with Randall is impossible. Andy asks, how's co-parenting with Randall? She says it's impossible and they only communicate through the app. He lives in Miami now, which I didn't know. Pops in and Ocean, their daughter, thinks he's great, and when she sees him, and that's and that's all Lala can ask for.

She says she wishes he was somewhere farther where he can't get out, but all in due time. Now that means she's wishing that he goes to jail because there are allegations against Randall, kind of like a Harvey Weinstein, because he was also in the movie industry. And there are some allegations like a Me Too movement, Harvey Weinstein. I do believe Randall will eventually probably serve some time.

Lori (18:25.566)
Uh-huh.

Lori (18:31.39)
huh.

Kelli (18:32.359)
Yeah. Andy asks about more kids and Lala says Sosa is kicking her ass. She's tired and she's not thinking about more kids at the time. That's that second child, baby. Amen to that. The first one tricks you right into having a second one and then they fuck you all up. Except Wendy. Wendy doesn't have that dynamic in her family. Her second is not like that at all.

Kelli (19:03.687)
That might be the only exception to the rule that I know. So now we get to Kristen and Luke becoming new parents. Andy asks Luke if things in the bedroom have improved, and he just says, Yeah.

Kelli (19:18.139)
And listen, at this point, I don't know if you clock this, but Jasmine looks at Schwartz and says, I can't. You can't what?

Lori (19:28.162)
Yeah, there was a lot going on on that other couch.

Kelli (19:31.026)
Jasmine with the dick with the the eye rolling and the eye can't and listen, Jasmine, you're just not that interesting right now. I'm sorry. I like I I don't know what to tell you. They're gonna ask other qu other people questions because they were the front runners of the show. I like Jasmine, I like what she brings, but she's not she doesn't give main character energy. I know you've been on five reality TV shows

But you haven't really nailed down that mean character energy yet. You gotta work on that.

So Luke says the doctor, now this is, you know, this is interesting for new parents. The doctor said that, you know, it was a go to have sex after six weeks. So Luke was like, cool. And then Danny says, whoever came up with the six week rule should be fired. And then did you see Janet? And this could all be production, but did you see Janet like robotically

Like turn to Lala and Michelle with like a snarky look on her face. I'm like

Lori (20:38.67)
acting like he was saying, cause it should be sooner. That's not what he was saying.

Kelli (20:45.383)
That's not what he was saying. He was saying that maybe some people are good in six weeks, but the majority are not. And even if physically your body is ready to handle intercourse, mentally most women aren't there yet.

Lori (20:52.097)
are not, right?

Lori (20:57.58)
got nothing to do with it. Right. Right. Right. Right.

Kelli (21:04.871)
So obviously people online are coming for Luke and it's okay. but listen, I feel like Luke has been nothing but honest throughout this whole thing. And isn't like that all we can add? Like, isn't that what you're supposed to do when you're on a reality T V show?

Lori (21:19.902)
absolutely be honest about it.

Kelli (21:21.447)
I mean i you can come from all you want, but

Kelli (21:27.771)
Nia says she tore after Asher was born, so it took over six months for them to get busy again. It didn't take that long after the twins.

Lori (21:35.855)
I just wanna say...

Kelli (21:39.153)
We didn't need this information.

Lori (21:40.408)
Thank you.

Thank

Kelli (21:43.998)
I think that Nia and Danny, I think that Nia and Danny and Kristen and Luke really have formed a good friendship. And I think that in this case, Nia and Danny were trying to help them like, like, listen, it's different every time. Like, yeah, Luke just admit that he thought that he was having sex after six weeks. And then very soon after six weeks had passed, realized he was not, in fact, having sex with with Kristen. So I think that they were just trying to help them out. Like

Lori (22:08.982)
Right, right, right.

Kelli (22:13.747)
'Cause then she says after the twins she was ready much sooner, which is surprising because she had twins, and now with the last one, Adelaide, like it not so soon. So it's pregnancy by pregnancy.

Kelli (22:28.123)
And then Kristen goes into the fact that she's needy and clingy, but she didn't express it the right way to Luke and later realized she was dealing with postpartum depression and she didn't expect the rage that came with that. So of course Andy calls her out like you didn't expect rage, like or didn't, you know, wasn't aware of it. And she's like, No, not not normal Kristen rage. I'm talking about the postpartum rage. So that was funny.

Lori (22:52.13)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (22:55.695)
Andy asks Luke why he felt that it was only allowed to be hard for Kristen. And he said, you know, he gave up a lot to move to LA. And he felt like it wasn't appreciated. He felt lonely and estranged. They had continued couples therapy, but her therapist told her that if they are volatile during couples therapy, then they might not be ready for it and they need to resolve things before they go back. I feel like the word volatile was probably not.

the right word to use. Because I don't think they're volatile with each other.

Lori (23:25.548)
The right word, right.

Lori (23:30.412)
No! god,

Kelli (23:32.529)
I mean, even when we saw them in therapy, like you know, s you know, biting, yes.

Lori (23:40.202)
Right. I just think she meant it more in the way of saying he's not ready to hear what he doesn't want to hear.

Kelli (23:50.183)
Right. That's true.

Lori (23:51.694)
because that's a problem. He doesn't want to hear what he doesn't want to hear.

Kelli (24:01.469)
So Andy asks Luke if he would have waited until after the pregnancy to propose. Would he have still done it? And he's like, That's a hard question to answer and Michelle's like, that's not good Which, you know, there's nothing wrong with Michelle saying that. I think that was just like a knee jerk reaction. But

Lori (24:17.43)
Right, right. But really, they should not be talking about a wedding right now. They can't along great, so why would you talk about a wedding now? So.

Kelli (24:23.719)
No.

No. Right. I totally agree. And again, I give Lou credit for answering that question honestly. Like I don't know. I can't it that's not what happened. So I don't I can't really say what I would have done in that situation.

but Luke's like I I wouldn't have like broken up with you and then there's Jasmine rolling her eyes again. But again, we don't we really don't know if this is production and if Jasmine rolled her eyes at something else and they just pieced it in there.

Lori (24:56.738)
Something else, right. Yeah, absolutely.

Kelli (25:00.447)
Kristen says they're happy now and Jasmine's like, yikes and Janet looks at Jason with like a mortified look. So they're not making any decisions about a second child and Kristen says she isn't living in Colorado.

She's like, well, I'm not moving to Colorado. And he was like, well, that was kind of a, you know, harsh response to living in Colorado. And she's like, well, your ranch is beautiful and great, but it's in the middle of nowhere. And again, he makes like this face. It's like, you know, you know she's not you know she's not moving to some remote area of Colorado. It's just not happening. So stop acting so fucking surprised.

Lori (25:23.384)
Mm-hmm.

Lori (25:39.117)
Right.

Kelli (25:45.511)
So now we finally get to the bookos versus the Capernaus and think.

Lori (25:50.233)
But now how about this? How about Andy? You know, Luke and Kristen are talking about their trip they were supposed to take to New York and blah, blah, blah. And then the nanny was out of the country and there's Andy saying, we have to have backups. I'm like, bitch, how about just a nanny in the first place? I want to talk to you, Kelly Wetter.

Kelli (26:00.649)
yes.

Kelli (26:12.167)
You're rich.

Right.

Lori (26:19.886)
How lovely would it have been to have a fucking nanny? You know what? How lovely it would be to even have a fucking housekeeper. No less a housekeeper and a nanny. And now you're going on about a backup?

Kelli (26:27.259)
I would love a house I would love a cleaning person.

Kelli (26:34.417)
Yeah, I just I would really like to have somebody come clean my house 'cause I've learned over the years I don't like to clean. I'm not a good housekeeper. I don't like it. I'd like a housekeeper. I and I would have loved a nanny when my kids were little. Just for certain things, you know.

Lori (26:45.134)
I'm just over it. I'm just over it. Yeah. Yeah. But I'm just like, okay, now you're getting too much with the backup.

Kelli (26:53.331)
Yeah, but not everybody has Andy Cohen money where you can have two, three nannies lined up.

Kelli (27:01.275)
Right, right.

Lori (27:02.872)
I'm like, now you're pissing me off.

Kelli (27:05.329)
Right, sit down, Andy. So thankfully, the first question from a viewer, thank you, thank you, Sarah from Buffalo. Because she asked Janet and Jason, you defended Jax's behavior, but kept coming for Danny. And Jason says he never defended what Jax did. He took him to rehab and then gave him time after to see if he made changes. Okay.

Lori (27:06.902)
Yeah, sit down with your

Kelli (27:35.358)
So you gave him some time. He clearly did not make changes. And then Kristen says if Zach or I ever gave Jax an inch of friendship, Britney would never go for that in a million years. And Zach says, like Thanksgiving. So Janet and Jason had Jax over for a holiday because they then corrected Zach and said that it was Christmas Eve. So Kristen says that Britney says it was the way.

Jason was handling it. And I was never mad if you guys were nice to him. And Kristen says, you know what I was doing. So I think Kristen knew that they wanted Jax off the show last season. So she wasn't giving him any airtime. She wasn't giving him anything. She wasn't answering his calls. Shoot nothing. Zach says if he and Kristen ever had Jax over, it wouldn't fly. And he knows they hugged it out. He's saying this to Janet.

But we need to resolve this.

Kelli (28:52.359)
Janet says Jax asked if he could come over and Janet immediately said no. And then she called Brittany and Britney said it wouldn't help her out if they let him come over.

Lori (29:32.835)
Okay.

Kelli (29:36.957)
So Yeah, it's okay. yeah, so Janet says Jack's asked if he could come over and Janet immediately say n said no, and then she called Britney and Britney was like, actually it would really help me out if you would let him come over for the holiday. So they did. So they kind of glau

Lori (29:37.156)
Technical difficulties. Yeah.

Lori (29:54.159)
But didn't she say didn't she say just so that he won't bother me?

Kelli (29:58.758)
Yes. Yes. Which listen, maybe that's really what happened, but Britney is protecting Janet and Jason for a reason. And it's because Jax wanted to take down Danny and Nia and Britney was completely complicit with that. And Janet and Jason know that. And if Britney steps out of line one step, they're gonna call her out on it. One hundred percent. But whatever.

Lori (30:15.418)
Mm-hmm.

They're gonna let it know. Right, right.

Kelli (30:24.707)
Andy asks Danny what Jason could have said at the cigar night that would have made things better and Danny's like, a simple, I'm sorry would have helped. And Jason says, But I'm not sorry for everything.

He said he isn't the one that did the things Danny did. He's sorry for calling him a clown and a douche. And Danny says that Jason perpetuated what Janet said, the essay comment. And he did. He did perpetuate it. Danny says Janet comparing him to Charles Manson was ridiculous. And Janet says she didn't, but we all saw her do it. And Danny says it's exactly what Jax did last season. And he did. She like she did exactly what Jax did.

And Kristen said it was a shitty analogy. So Janet says, I should have said, even if it didn't happen to me, it can still affect me. And Nia and Danny both were like, Absolutely, that is good. Like what if you would have said that, fine.

Lori (31:24.068)
Right.

Kelli (31:26.641)
So then Andy says Nia's always been open about postpartum struggles and ask her how she asks her how she's feeling now and Nia says she's better and they have a no pair now and that gives them more time and space to invest in their relationship. Andy says Nia expressed to Danny that she was overwhelmed and Nia says he is always very supportive and helps problem solve. She says he is in it to help her navigate it, knowing what she needs and how she is.

Andy brings up the scene when Nia was eating. You probably didn't see this. They were on vacation. It was the first vacation they went on this season, and they did have a nanny with them, but they had gotten to the place. Nia sat down and was eating a sandwich. She asked Danny to put the baby down for a nap, and he got pissed off and reacted to her. And basically, it was a it was

He was he says he was reacting that way because they brought the nanny and they're paying the nanny for a reason. So you're sitting there eating but you're asking me to put the baby down, but me and mom are paying a nanny. So

Lori (32:33.836)
All you gotta do is pick up the baby. You gotta say, sure, babe. You pick up the baby, you go find the nanny and you say, You know what? Nia's sitting down to eat. I'd like to join her. Here's the baby. Can you put her down? You come back to the table.

Kelli (32:50.897)
I mean, the thing is is that these are all natural reactions by people. Listen, if you are or if you're married and have a a newborn and don't react this way with your spouse, God bless you, because my husband and I did 100%. You nip and you nip and you nip. Andy brings up the scene when Nia Yeah, so that scene, and he says, you know, Danny came off as a dick. And Nia says that two months before this show started airing.

Lori (33:03.138)
Right. yeah, you nip, you nip, you nip, absolutely.

Kelli (33:20.711)
They started intense couples therapy.

So Lala says she has two and can understand, but she says it seems that Nia is in this completely solo. Well, she says, Well, we know that's not true. And she wanted to come through the screen and deck Danny for Nia. So I'm gonna tell you a little story. Actually, I'm not because we're we're getting we're listen, when when Mike when when Tess was first born,

And we would go to family events at for Eric's side of the family. Somebody in his family would always make comments to me like, I feel so bad for you. He doesn't even help.

And that used to fucking infuriate me because Eric helped tremendously when my kids were little. Eric was a very hands-on dad. I stayed home for a year with Tess, but I worked Saturdays at a salon like I do now. he was her caregiver, you know. He worked full time, he commuted. Now

Kelli (34:33.895)
I'm not gonna go into any more details than that. However.

Your husband commuted. My husband commutes. Wendy's husband commuted. We were the primary caregivers for our children. So when our children got to, you know, needed something, who were they gonna go to for that at any age? Us. Because we were with them more of the time. But that did not make our husbands not good fathers.

Lori (34:56.706)
Mm-hmm. Right.

All the time. Right. Than the father was.

Lori (35:07.151)
Right.

Kelli (35:07.547)
Not engaged fathers. It just doesn't. It just didn't. So this, you know, I I don't know. That annoyed me. Danny says his reaction when he saw his behavior when Nia was trying to eat, and you know, he saw he's he saw his reaction and he explains that they were up all night with a screaming toddler on no sleep. And Jasmine starts whispering again, I'm sick of it. And he says, you know, we were

Lori (35:09.578)
Right. Right.

Kelli (35:36.045)
anxious because we were coming into a situation where we were going on vacation with the Capernas, things weren't good and Jason looks at Jen and he's like, so is our fault.

Kelli (35:48.647)
So

Lori (35:48.964)
Well, listen, there's two sides to it though. I mean, you it all that he's saying is true and people who don't have kids you don't know what it can be like. But but you also cannot throw up the kid shield to explain all of your bad behavior. 'Cause you still made some you still made some poor choices

that I'm thinking you would have made kids or no kids, tired or no tired. You know what I mean? Like so so maybe that was a little bit of Jasmine's frustration with the situation, even though she didn't necessarily express it clearly that way.

Kelli (36:18.727)
Yes.

Kelli (36:23.761)
Right. Yes.

Kelli (36:44.829)
So, you know, they go through the whole thing. Danny says he saw his behavior, you know, he was you know, obviously he he felt sick over it. Andy asks Danny if he normally doesn't help with the kids and he's like I put them down, I changed their diapers, I swallow them. Andy asks Kristen what her reaction was and she says I'm the wrong person to ask. She said because even when I have help around, I still have a hard time letting go.

But seeing Danny speak to Nia the way he did sometimes was disappointing to her. But it doesn't affect how she sees him as a friend or a human being because she knows them so well. And she and she called Nia and was like, This is really hard to watch. So, you know.

And then well, whatever. I you know, I don't even want to talk about what Lala said 'cause who fucking cares about Lala and what sh what her opinion is? Seriously. Danny says we've been married for ten years. We have four kids. When you're sleep deprived, you say things you never thought you would say. And I'm gonna attest to that. I've said it a million times. I told Eric I hated him in the middle of the night one night when Tess was a baby because I couldn't find the Binky.

Lori (37:39.532)
Yeah. Yeah. There you go.

Lori (37:52.516)
yeah. yeah.

Lori (37:59.32)
yeah. All kinds of stuff. yeah.

Kelli (38:00.888)
As if he hit it on purpose so I couldn't. and Jasmine just is losing her shit at the end of the couch. She's like, I'm about to lose my fucking mind the whole season. Not just you, but everyone's like, I have kids. And everybody reacted the same way. Like, you don't have them, so you can't say anything. Even Andy's, like, sometimes it is like that.

Lori (38:04.051)
Yeah, absolutely. Yes. Yes.

Lori (38:26.35)
Right.

Lori (38:30.498)
Right. It is like

Kelli (38:31.283)
So, Jasmine, don't have kids yet because you are not ready, girl. If you're looking at this and this is bothering you, don't do it. Because this is this these are facts right here. This is what happens. She says they make her not want to have kids. They're so miserable. this was interesting. Andy says, what happened, Luke, when we invited you to watch what happens live. So apparently, Luke.

Lori (38:34.468)
Not ready for now.

Lori (38:39.438)
Right. Don't do it. Right. Right. This is what it is. Right.

Kelli (39:00.871)
Wasn't Luke and Kristen were supposed to go and watch what happens live together, and Luke said he would only come if Kristen weren't involved because she needed a break. And Kristen says their nanny was out of town. They were trying to get Luke's mom to come with them. It wasn't working out. So I don't know if she was gonna have to bring the baby, but basically Kristen was like, if I go, I'm staying in the room the whole time.

And Luke was like, I wanna explore New York. Now he's from Colorado. He's living in LA. I don't know how often he gets to New York, but listen, New York is a fun place. And if you're going to New York, you do want to experience some things. I'm not I'm not a Luke apologizer, but I don't want to go to New York and sit in a fucking hotel room f the whole time.

Lori (39:32.089)
Right. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Lori (39:46.092)
Right. Well I think the w when he explained it, the way that I took it was is that he was very excited for the two of them to go to New York together and do some things. He said, but it just didn't make sense to drag the baby there, fuck up her whole sleep schedule, stay there for like one night, drag the baby back.

Kelli (39:57.575)
Yes.

Lori (40:12.982)
Then you're stuck for like another two nights of her sleep cycle, not really be able to do anything. The baby's gonna be shot. It's y it's j it was just he was right. It didn't make it didn't make sense.

Kelli (40:25.715)
I totally agree. It didn't make sense.

Lori (40:28.238)
But he I don't feel like he necessarily explains himself correctly.

Kelli (40:35.495)
He definitely didn't explain himself well to Kristen when this was going on. I feel like he's explained it well now. He's had time to think about it. But it even, you know, I like I like I just feel like if you go to New York, you want to experience New York. Doesn't mean you gotta stay out all night, but you wanna go to dinner, you wanna walk around, you wanna see the sights, like

Lori (40:40.344)
Right now.

Now, right. Right.

Lori (40:59.202)
Right. And I think even that would have been a bitch with a baby who's been on a plane for eight hours and you're gonna stay for one day and then you're gonna get back on a plane for another five hour like it it that's madness. It's madness.

Kelli (41:03.751)
For sure.

Kelli (41:11.729)
It's too much.

So Kristen was obviously upset about it. He apologizes. but he was like, You were making jokes about it and making light of it. And she's like, Yeah, of course. So he didn't realize how hurt she was. So then Andy's like, Well, let me play devil's advocate. Why wouldn't you leave the baby with a nanny? And then they have to reiterate, like, Andy, we just told you 10 minutes ago that our nanny was out of town. Out of the country, actually. So,

Lori (41:36.836)
No he says, right. Right.

Kelli (41:44.718)
Andy says to Danny, you were getting it from all sides in the comments, and a viewer asks, Do you now understand how hard it was for Janet online? And Danny says the situ the situations were different. And of course Lala's answer Lala says your only answer should be yes. Shut up, Lala.

Somebody get her off the couch. I can't like she's literally only there to come for Danny and to protect Janet. Get her off the couch.

Kelli (42:22.695)
Danny says, I have never experienced that in my life. He was told to kill himself. And I and I do remember Janet saying the same thing, which is horrible. I mean, we're all fans. We all enjoy these shows. We comment. But that's that's a level that should never be reached.

Lori (42:33.406)
horrible.

Lori (42:38.114)
Right. That's a whole nother level. No.

Kelli (42:44.231)
He said he he cried about it. He didn't want to get out of bed. And he apologized to Janet because he apologized for the things she experienced and for his part in reposting things and liking posts. And he's very sorry. And Janet cries and says she appreciates it. And Janet says, I think it's something that most people do not experience and it's dark. And and she's right.

Lori (43:12.281)
Mm-hmm.

Kelli (43:12.635)
And she's sorry that Danny went through it. and then Kristen says she went through it when when on when she was on VPR. So listen, at this point, I really do hope that the bookos and the capernas can get past whatever nonsense is going on here because it is a good show. But you have to stop the campaign against Danny.

Lori (43:21.146)
Mm-hmm.

Lori (43:32.027)
They got going on.

Right.

Kelli (43:42.47)
And we're gonna get to it because they talk about it, but you can't this show is about young c well, couples with young kids who drink a lot. That's what this show is about. If you don't wanna if you don't like Danny's behavior when he drinks, stop drinking with him because this is what you guys do.

Lori (43:52.482)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Lori (44:00.536)
Right. Right.

Kelli (44:05.465)
Anyway.

Lori (44:06.362)
So there seems to be some big hubbub about Danny saying he hasn't really drank and then something goes on we're gonna find out next episode at Jasmine's wedding.

Kelli (44:14.244)
Yeah.

Kelli (44:21.051)
Yeah. Yeah. So this is so Kristen says she's mortified she was mortified watching things back. Jasmine says this is where it gets confusing and Lala says she understands Danny's confusion because they were telling him, drink all you want because they all get drunk together and then and then the next day they're telling him that they don't like his behavior and it's bad when he's drunk. So she says a l you're unpredictable. And a lot of people are unpredictable when they drink too much.

It doesn't have to be somebody like her who has accepted the fact that she can't drink. She has an unhealthy relationship with alcohol enough to the point where she can't even have one sip. And she's right. Some people just are unpredictable. so Danny says since rapping, he has never been that intoxicated. And he's been in therapy and he's looking at his relationship with alcohol. And then Brittany says under her breath.

Jesse, you need to bring up the wedding. Why don't you bring up the wedding, Brittany? You were there. So fucking talk about it, Brittany. So Andy says, What happened at Jasmine's wedding? And Jasmine's like, What wedding? And Jesse says this has nothing to do with me, and Lala says that is bullshit. Lala wasn't even at the wedding, from what I understand. So I w we're gonna find out next week what happened.

Lori (45:25.006)
Right. Right, you got something to say. Right, you got something to say. Go ahead.

Lori (45:44.004)
So I guess we're gonna find out. Hm.

Kelli (45:49.533)
But Brittany is such a s she's a snake. She's always been a snake. She knew exactly who Jax was when she married him. Jax fucked somebody else while they were dating. She still got engaged and married to him. So I'm sorry, Brittany. I don't feel bad for you. Cause then she does shit like this. I start to feel bad for her because he's screwing his publicist now. And then she pulls this bullshit where she's like, Jesse, you have to bring up the wedding. You bring up the wedding.

Lori (46:07.541)
A

Kelli (46:18.225)
You're getting paid to be on a show. You do it. I know I get too heated. We gotta talk about this after we wrap. All right, well thanks for watching and listening. That's all we got on the Valley Reunion Part Two.

Lori (46:23.034)
So we shall see. We shall see. That's all right. We shall see what goes on. Yes, thank you.

Yep. See you next time. Bye.

Kelli (46:37.203)
All right. Bye.